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Why does Chandra Raman have his nation listed as “India” when India did not yet exist in 1930 when he won his prize? That should be “British Raj” instead. And why are the German winners from between 1920-1933 listed as “Weimar republic” when the nation at that time was still called “the German empire” (even though it was a republic)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.115.3 ( talk) 20:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Why are there no winners of this prize from Africa? LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.121.99 ( talk) 16:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
The note says that the "by country" information comes from nobelprize.org but I can't find the information there. I was surprised to see that Otto Stern is given as United States when he did the relevant research as a German in Germany. Ledmatt ( talk) 16:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Very distasteful to put the nazi flag next to Otto Stern, who was Jewish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.199.149.230 ( talk) 15:56, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Why are some countries given their historical names and some are not? For example "Kingdom of Italy" and "German Empire" are given, but then the younger Bragg is shown as Australia and UK. There was no sovereign Australia in those days. Both UK and Australia should be shown under "British Empire" to be consistent. Australians had the same passport as those who lived in the UK, and any Brit from the UK could go and live in Australia without any further formalities (and vice-versa).
Marchino61 ( talk) 02:04, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
I'd also like to add that it is simply not true that the country names are taken from nobelprize.org in all cases. The Wikipedia page gives "Weimar Republic" for Einstein, for example. There never was a country by that name, and it is not the name used on the Nobel Prize website (which only gives place born, place died, and "affiliation at the time of work"). So which is it meant to be? Birth, death or affiliation?
Marchino61 ( talk) 02:18, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
All these images are looks horrible, in my opinion, and I'm close to deleting them, but somehow someone invested a whole lot of work to add them, so I'm checking public opinion here. If anyone is interesed in what the scientist might look like thay could as well click their name? Or should we add other data like birthdates or university to this table as well? I say keep it simple, and this table was way easier to read before these images were added. Axelv ( talk) 19:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Some of these images have been lifted from the Nobel website and are actually copyright Nobel Foundation, not public domain: http://nobelprize.org/nobelweb/terms_use.html
I came to this page because I have just tagged John Bardeen's image for speedy deletion on Wikimedia Commons. Now, coming here, I can see there are other copyright Nobel images pulled straight off the Nobel website (or off other websites that pulled them off Nobel), e.g. Nevill Mott, Leon Cooper, Sin-Itiro Tomonaga. The newer ones look to be from different sources so may be OK. It's the posed black and white ones that are dubious. 82.71.0.229 ( talk) 09:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay, more on the above. I have now checked and marked for "speedy deletion" at Wikimedia Commons: John Bardeen, Walter Brattain, William Shockley, Nevill Mott, Leon Cooper, and Sin-Itiro Tomonaga. I believe these are all copyright images "stolen" from the Nobel Foundation website. These, at least, will need replacements on this page. Not sure if there are any more. 82.71.0.229 ( talk) 14:29, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
I added some images from Commons. If there is a question about the licence then it should be delt with over there. BaomoVW ( talk) 18:02, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
The original writer of this article only wrote under "country" USA. From an objective point of view this is incorrect, he is both Dutch and American and both countries contributed equally as much to his nobel prize. He had his complete education in the Netherlands at an gymnasium (high school with all subjects on AP-level) and the University of Utrecht. Only after that, at the age of 25, he emigrated to the USA where he did research for Harvard University. Three years later he got his PhD from the University of Leiden. He has both nationalities, the Dutch and the American nationality. Because of these two reasons I have changed "United States" in "Netherlands/USA". 193.190.253.147 ( talk) 14:38, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
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Two tags added: "This article relies on references to primary sources" and "This article relies largely or entirely upon a single source." We trust the Nobel Prize will provide accurate information who won for Verification purposes. However, missing is what the rest of the world thinks about who won, a significant but missing aspect. This is featured content so it's a question of completeness; links to notable book/newspaper/magazine/opinion articles that discuss about the award. Ideally there would be a 5th column called "Ref(s)" with at least one secondary ref per year (Britannica is a Tertiary source) though it may be difficult for some of the earlier years. -- Green Cardamom ( talk) 08:39, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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There are at least seven laureates that have photos in their respective articles, which could be included in the table. I'm not familiar with wiki table editing, so I'll leve it to other editors. -- Janke | Talk 11:09, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
I removed Sheldon Cooper and Amy Farrah Fowler from the list. These are fictional characters from the Big Bang Theory. Paige Matheson ( talk) 01:42, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
I commented out the section about fictional characters getting Nobel Prizes (it was listing fictional characters from the TV series The Big Bang Theory...). As a (non-fictional) scientist, I consider this not relevant to the article, and highly inappropriate. If ones want this "information" documented on the encyclopedia, just create another page.
There was never such a state, it was always the Federal Republic of Germany or Germany. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arndt1969 ( talk • contribs) 16:48, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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The list of "delayed" Nobel prizes in physics is incomplete. Max von Laue's 1914 prize was awarded in 1915. From https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1914/press-release/ "* The Nobel Prize in Physics 1914 was announced on November 11, 1915." -- Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 19:07, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/lists/all-nobel-prizes-in-physics/ has information on institutional affiliation at the time of the prize and place of birth and death. I think we should take the country directly from the institutional affiliation at the time of the prize. There never was an official "Weimar Republic," just the "German Reich." As to the flag, I suggest we drop it everywhere; what purpose does it serve? 99.13.228.225 ( talk) 00:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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The artilce does not mention the place of birth, nor the country of the alumnus of the parent university, but the country where the scientist was working at the time of the award. This is not fair.
I can see the reason why this could be a huge loss of prestige for the UK, Germany and the US, because a lot of migrant scientists have won Nobel Prizes in these countries, who neither went to university in those countries, nor were born, raised and educated in those countries.-- Pharaph ( talk) 15:50, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
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Why does Chandra Raman have his nation listed as “India” when India did not yet exist in 1930 when he won his prize? That should be “British Raj” instead. And why are the German winners from between 1920-1933 listed as “Weimar republic” when the nation at that time was still called “the German empire” (even though it was a republic)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.115.3 ( talk) 20:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Why are there no winners of this prize from Africa? LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.121.99 ( talk) 16:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
The note says that the "by country" information comes from nobelprize.org but I can't find the information there. I was surprised to see that Otto Stern is given as United States when he did the relevant research as a German in Germany. Ledmatt ( talk) 16:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Very distasteful to put the nazi flag next to Otto Stern, who was Jewish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.199.149.230 ( talk) 15:56, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Why are some countries given their historical names and some are not? For example "Kingdom of Italy" and "German Empire" are given, but then the younger Bragg is shown as Australia and UK. There was no sovereign Australia in those days. Both UK and Australia should be shown under "British Empire" to be consistent. Australians had the same passport as those who lived in the UK, and any Brit from the UK could go and live in Australia without any further formalities (and vice-versa).
Marchino61 ( talk) 02:04, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
I'd also like to add that it is simply not true that the country names are taken from nobelprize.org in all cases. The Wikipedia page gives "Weimar Republic" for Einstein, for example. There never was a country by that name, and it is not the name used on the Nobel Prize website (which only gives place born, place died, and "affiliation at the time of work"). So which is it meant to be? Birth, death or affiliation?
Marchino61 ( talk) 02:18, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
All these images are looks horrible, in my opinion, and I'm close to deleting them, but somehow someone invested a whole lot of work to add them, so I'm checking public opinion here. If anyone is interesed in what the scientist might look like thay could as well click their name? Or should we add other data like birthdates or university to this table as well? I say keep it simple, and this table was way easier to read before these images were added. Axelv ( talk) 19:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Some of these images have been lifted from the Nobel website and are actually copyright Nobel Foundation, not public domain: http://nobelprize.org/nobelweb/terms_use.html
I came to this page because I have just tagged John Bardeen's image for speedy deletion on Wikimedia Commons. Now, coming here, I can see there are other copyright Nobel images pulled straight off the Nobel website (or off other websites that pulled them off Nobel), e.g. Nevill Mott, Leon Cooper, Sin-Itiro Tomonaga. The newer ones look to be from different sources so may be OK. It's the posed black and white ones that are dubious. 82.71.0.229 ( talk) 09:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay, more on the above. I have now checked and marked for "speedy deletion" at Wikimedia Commons: John Bardeen, Walter Brattain, William Shockley, Nevill Mott, Leon Cooper, and Sin-Itiro Tomonaga. I believe these are all copyright images "stolen" from the Nobel Foundation website. These, at least, will need replacements on this page. Not sure if there are any more. 82.71.0.229 ( talk) 14:29, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
I added some images from Commons. If there is a question about the licence then it should be delt with over there. BaomoVW ( talk) 18:02, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
The original writer of this article only wrote under "country" USA. From an objective point of view this is incorrect, he is both Dutch and American and both countries contributed equally as much to his nobel prize. He had his complete education in the Netherlands at an gymnasium (high school with all subjects on AP-level) and the University of Utrecht. Only after that, at the age of 25, he emigrated to the USA where he did research for Harvard University. Three years later he got his PhD from the University of Leiden. He has both nationalities, the Dutch and the American nationality. Because of these two reasons I have changed "United States" in "Netherlands/USA". 193.190.253.147 ( talk) 14:38, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
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Two tags added: "This article relies on references to primary sources" and "This article relies largely or entirely upon a single source." We trust the Nobel Prize will provide accurate information who won for Verification purposes. However, missing is what the rest of the world thinks about who won, a significant but missing aspect. This is featured content so it's a question of completeness; links to notable book/newspaper/magazine/opinion articles that discuss about the award. Ideally there would be a 5th column called "Ref(s)" with at least one secondary ref per year (Britannica is a Tertiary source) though it may be difficult for some of the earlier years. -- Green Cardamom ( talk) 08:39, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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There are at least seven laureates that have photos in their respective articles, which could be included in the table. I'm not familiar with wiki table editing, so I'll leve it to other editors. -- Janke | Talk 11:09, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
I removed Sheldon Cooper and Amy Farrah Fowler from the list. These are fictional characters from the Big Bang Theory. Paige Matheson ( talk) 01:42, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
I commented out the section about fictional characters getting Nobel Prizes (it was listing fictional characters from the TV series The Big Bang Theory...). As a (non-fictional) scientist, I consider this not relevant to the article, and highly inappropriate. If ones want this "information" documented on the encyclopedia, just create another page.
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The list of "delayed" Nobel prizes in physics is incomplete. Max von Laue's 1914 prize was awarded in 1915. From https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1914/press-release/ "* The Nobel Prize in Physics 1914 was announced on November 11, 1915." -- Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 19:07, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/lists/all-nobel-prizes-in-physics/ has information on institutional affiliation at the time of the prize and place of birth and death. I think we should take the country directly from the institutional affiliation at the time of the prize. There never was an official "Weimar Republic," just the "German Reich." As to the flag, I suggest we drop it everywhere; what purpose does it serve? 99.13.228.225 ( talk) 00:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
14, 2023, 14:43 - «Undid revision 1165336261 by 62.121.132.130 talk) Please! This item refers to Max Planck ... »
AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 16:23, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
The artilce does not mention the place of birth, nor the country of the alumnus of the parent university, but the country where the scientist was working at the time of the award. This is not fair.
I can see the reason why this could be a huge loss of prestige for the UK, Germany and the US, because a lot of migrant scientists have won Nobel Prizes in these countries, who neither went to university in those countries, nor were born, raised and educated in those countries.-- Pharaph ( talk) 15:50, 13 October 2023 (UTC)