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Is the Craigieburn 'stub' really a line? I see it as more of a subsection of the Albury-Wodonga/Shepparton regional lines, and not a line in itself - it does only have one station. Of course, once the Broad line gets extended, it will be the Craigieburn line, but as it stands, is there anything to write about it that would merit an article? Same goes for the Sunbury and Melton lines, although they have a longer greater-metro service, so they could have articles, but aren't they really subsections of their respective regional lines? T. P.K. 14:13, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
It looks like the new colourful format isn't going to work. If you look at the temp page, it's already 31 kb, but only less than half of the lines have been tabulated. The wikicode is just going to be far too long, so I'm going to have to drop it, unless there's some way of significantly reducing the table code, however, I don't see how that could be possible. Nice idea while it lasted. T. P.K. 07:56, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone know if the Flagstaff, Melborune Central and Parliament stations are 'premium' stations? The page doesn't list them as premium, though SSS and FSS were both listed as non-premium which I corrected.
What does everyone think of this?
I'm using <font color=xx></font> tags, though I think style tags are more efficient but don't know how to use them. Either way. Also, I've used Goldenrod instead of Yellow for ease of reading.
T. PK 10:55, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone know exactly when most of Melbourne's stations were destaffed? I'm assuming '90s, but I don't know exactly when they were destaffed. Somebody in the WWW 07:23, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The big push on removal of staff was when Metcard was introduced in the mid-90s, ahead of privatisation in August 1999. But it had been many years since there was fulltime staffing of stations, let alone on every platform. By the early-90s, well before Metcard, many stations were only staffed for a single shift each day. Danielbowen ( talk) 08:34, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
I can't find any example station entries that give an idea of the kind of level of detail, or even layout, expected from a station entry. I've had a stab at a decent article at Essendon railway station, Melbourne, but it leaves a lot to be desired. Can anyone point me at an appropriate quality article, or can we work together to bring the Essendon railway station, Melbourne article to a point where it can be held to be the 'gold standard'? Josh Parris ✉ 03:04, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I think that Essendon railway station, Melbourne has now surpassed Ashburton railway station, Melbourne in article quality, and I'm thinking I like the layout too. I'd like to start flushing the format throughout the network. Josh Parris ✉ 07:51, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think it needs a map of some sort, showing the stations and railway lines visualy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adammw ( talk • contribs)
I agree that the page should have a map, but currently even the link in the references is dead.
A link to the current PTV map is follows,
http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Images/maps/Network-maps/Train-Network-Map-updatedNovember2012.gif, but judging by the name it's subject to change. (Like when RRL is finished)
Ensign R (
talk)
04:54, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Quick Question! Why does the caulfield group included the sandringham line which doesn't go through caulfield station? Shouldn't it be called the South Yarra Group then? What is the history behind this name? and should it be changed? 58.111.113.166 ( talk) 13:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Re this edit - Blackburn services are 'almost' another line during peak time as the all stoppers, with expresses going beyond. However, we can't go listing every stopping pattern or we will end up with 10 stations lists all exactly the same. So - how do we deal with them? In this page bold the names of the usual termini and make a note of them in a paragraph at the top, and do the same in the line article? Wongm ( talk) 12:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I've edited the 'Greater metropolitan lines' section to only included lines featured in the current suburban network diagram, and removed the Regional Rail Link stations of Tarneit and Wyndham Vale because they don't. Since the full introduction of Myki to V/Line, the old 'V/Line is country and Metcard is metropolitan' split used by this article no longer exists. A country vs metropolitan split based on myki zones won't work, as zone 2 heads all the way out to Lara, Clarkefield, Wandong, etc. Wongm ( talk) 03:17, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
We seem to have a mix of original opening date (eg Flinders Street, 1854), and the date the current station building/structure opened (eg. Bentleigh, 2016). I'd suggest it should be one or the other, or an additional column created. Danielbowen ( talk) 08:43, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Although this is not my top priorty right now I do have plans improve this list so it can reach FL status, as part of it I may create a new table and I want to make sure there is a conseus on what format I should use for the tables I have proposed some designs based on a few other FL status station articles at User:NotOrrio/sandbox2 feel free to add new designs and comment on existing ones NotOrrio ( talk) 08:04, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
{{rint|victoria|met bus|size=30|link=Oakleigh railway station#Transport links}}
The Network Map section is missing the Hurstbridge line. -- ThylacineHunter ( talk) 06:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
I finished S as of right now and I am expecting to complete the new table and import it here by the end of the day NotOrrio ( talk) 07:45, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
I will give the list a final check by grading it on the featured list criteria. I will nominate it for FL status once all criteria have been addresssed
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NotOrrio ( talk) 09:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
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I'm going to nominiate this soon but I want to make sure if there are any other problems that need to be addressed. If not I will nominate the article for FL status NotOrrio ( talk) 06:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
I will be making some clean ups and fixing issues that were brought up in the original FL-Nomination, I will not be renominating this article atleast for now especially since the source for the distances has questionable reliability,
I will also make a spot check on this article as I have identified an issue that was not discussed earlier where a bunch of rints led to Anstey station NotOrrio ( talk) 13:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved — Amakuru ( talk) 14:18, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
List of railway stations in Melbourne → List of Metro Trains Melbourne railway stations – The list as it currently stands is not actually about all the railway stations in Melbourne. It excludes V/Line-only stations within Melbourne, such as Ardeer railway station or Deer Park railway station. I propose that this page be refocused on just Metro Trains Melbourne stations, which would also exclude the heritage stations and the Suburban Rail Loop-only stations.
Moving to this proposed title would be in line with List of Sydney Trains railway stations, List of Sydney Metro stations and List of Transperth railway stations. This move would be accompanied by a move of List of regional railway stations in Victoria to List of V/Line railway stations. Steelkamp ( talk) 03:57, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
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Is the Craigieburn 'stub' really a line? I see it as more of a subsection of the Albury-Wodonga/Shepparton regional lines, and not a line in itself - it does only have one station. Of course, once the Broad line gets extended, it will be the Craigieburn line, but as it stands, is there anything to write about it that would merit an article? Same goes for the Sunbury and Melton lines, although they have a longer greater-metro service, so they could have articles, but aren't they really subsections of their respective regional lines? T. P.K. 14:13, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
It looks like the new colourful format isn't going to work. If you look at the temp page, it's already 31 kb, but only less than half of the lines have been tabulated. The wikicode is just going to be far too long, so I'm going to have to drop it, unless there's some way of significantly reducing the table code, however, I don't see how that could be possible. Nice idea while it lasted. T. P.K. 07:56, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone know if the Flagstaff, Melborune Central and Parliament stations are 'premium' stations? The page doesn't list them as premium, though SSS and FSS were both listed as non-premium which I corrected.
What does everyone think of this?
I'm using <font color=xx></font> tags, though I think style tags are more efficient but don't know how to use them. Either way. Also, I've used Goldenrod instead of Yellow for ease of reading.
T. PK 10:55, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone know exactly when most of Melbourne's stations were destaffed? I'm assuming '90s, but I don't know exactly when they were destaffed. Somebody in the WWW 07:23, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The big push on removal of staff was when Metcard was introduced in the mid-90s, ahead of privatisation in August 1999. But it had been many years since there was fulltime staffing of stations, let alone on every platform. By the early-90s, well before Metcard, many stations were only staffed for a single shift each day. Danielbowen ( talk) 08:34, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
I can't find any example station entries that give an idea of the kind of level of detail, or even layout, expected from a station entry. I've had a stab at a decent article at Essendon railway station, Melbourne, but it leaves a lot to be desired. Can anyone point me at an appropriate quality article, or can we work together to bring the Essendon railway station, Melbourne article to a point where it can be held to be the 'gold standard'? Josh Parris ✉ 03:04, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I think that Essendon railway station, Melbourne has now surpassed Ashburton railway station, Melbourne in article quality, and I'm thinking I like the layout too. I'd like to start flushing the format throughout the network. Josh Parris ✉ 07:51, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think it needs a map of some sort, showing the stations and railway lines visualy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adammw ( talk • contribs)
I agree that the page should have a map, but currently even the link in the references is dead.
A link to the current PTV map is follows,
http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Images/maps/Network-maps/Train-Network-Map-updatedNovember2012.gif, but judging by the name it's subject to change. (Like when RRL is finished)
Ensign R (
talk)
04:54, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Quick Question! Why does the caulfield group included the sandringham line which doesn't go through caulfield station? Shouldn't it be called the South Yarra Group then? What is the history behind this name? and should it be changed? 58.111.113.166 ( talk) 13:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Re this edit - Blackburn services are 'almost' another line during peak time as the all stoppers, with expresses going beyond. However, we can't go listing every stopping pattern or we will end up with 10 stations lists all exactly the same. So - how do we deal with them? In this page bold the names of the usual termini and make a note of them in a paragraph at the top, and do the same in the line article? Wongm ( talk) 12:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I've edited the 'Greater metropolitan lines' section to only included lines featured in the current suburban network diagram, and removed the Regional Rail Link stations of Tarneit and Wyndham Vale because they don't. Since the full introduction of Myki to V/Line, the old 'V/Line is country and Metcard is metropolitan' split used by this article no longer exists. A country vs metropolitan split based on myki zones won't work, as zone 2 heads all the way out to Lara, Clarkefield, Wandong, etc. Wongm ( talk) 03:17, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
We seem to have a mix of original opening date (eg Flinders Street, 1854), and the date the current station building/structure opened (eg. Bentleigh, 2016). I'd suggest it should be one or the other, or an additional column created. Danielbowen ( talk) 08:43, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Although this is not my top priorty right now I do have plans improve this list so it can reach FL status, as part of it I may create a new table and I want to make sure there is a conseus on what format I should use for the tables I have proposed some designs based on a few other FL status station articles at User:NotOrrio/sandbox2 feel free to add new designs and comment on existing ones NotOrrio ( talk) 08:04, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
{{rint|victoria|met bus|size=30|link=Oakleigh railway station#Transport links}}
The Network Map section is missing the Hurstbridge line. -- ThylacineHunter ( talk) 06:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
I finished S as of right now and I am expecting to complete the new table and import it here by the end of the day NotOrrio ( talk) 07:45, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
I will give the list a final check by grading it on the featured list criteria. I will nominate it for FL status once all criteria have been addresssed
Legend
✅- Mostly/Fully addressed
🟡- Working on fixing it
🔴- Does not fullfill yet
⚪-Not Checked Yet
Featured List Check List
- Scope: ✅ - Sources: 🔴 - Lenght: ✅
NotOrrio ( talk) 09:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
{{RouteBox|Flemington Racecourse line|Flemington Racecourse railway line|#{{rcr|Melbourne|Flemington Racecourse}}|white}}
)
{{
rcb|Melbourne|Flemington Racecourse|route}}
to show
Flemington Racecourse{{
rcb|Melbourne|Craigieburn|route}}
-
Craigieburn{{
rcb|Journey Beyond|The Overland|route}}
(
The Overland) but not for {{
rcb|NSW TrainLink|Southern|route}}
(
Southern).{{RouteBox|NSW TrainLink Southern|Main Southern railway line|#{{rcr|NSW TrainLink|Southern}}|white}}
(
NSW TrainLink Southern ). --
ThylacineHunter (
talk)
02:57, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm going to nominiate this soon but I want to make sure if there are any other problems that need to be addressed. If not I will nominate the article for FL status NotOrrio ( talk) 06:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
I will be making some clean ups and fixing issues that were brought up in the original FL-Nomination, I will not be renominating this article atleast for now especially since the source for the distances has questionable reliability,
I will also make a spot check on this article as I have identified an issue that was not discussed earlier where a bunch of rints led to Anstey station NotOrrio ( talk) 13:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved — Amakuru ( talk) 14:18, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
List of railway stations in Melbourne → List of Metro Trains Melbourne railway stations – The list as it currently stands is not actually about all the railway stations in Melbourne. It excludes V/Line-only stations within Melbourne, such as Ardeer railway station or Deer Park railway station. I propose that this page be refocused on just Metro Trains Melbourne stations, which would also exclude the heritage stations and the Suburban Rail Loop-only stations.
Moving to this proposed title would be in line with List of Sydney Trains railway stations, List of Sydney Metro stations and List of Transperth railway stations. This move would be accompanied by a move of List of regional railway stations in Victoria to List of V/Line railway stations. Steelkamp ( talk) 03:57, 7 November 2023 (UTC)