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Do we really need to put the year in both the level-2 and level-3 headers. It seems the year in the level-3 headers would be sufficient. Also though its widely known, The phases are currently unreferenced.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 19:14, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Can someone fix it? I can't figure out what's wrong with it. Suzuku ( talk) 19:46, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Why this page don't have a crew table like other like Star Wars or X-Men? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1388:B46:2FED:48A5:46A8:DA42:1EB3 ( talk) 14:43, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
So I came across this article here that said Marvel had filed some trademarks which relate to films that have come out or will be. Yet, I went to the US trademark filings and found a few ( here, here and here), and they all say the filing is for "Downloadable electronic publications in the nature of comic books, comic magazines and stories in illustrated form." Compare that to Thor: The Dark World's filing, which says "Audio and visual recordings featuring live-action entertainment; musical recordings; video game software; cases for cellular telephones." Just want to make sure I am reading this correct that these are in fact NOT for films, but possibly upcoming comic titles/series. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 23:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
What does it mean? Is it a fan insider? -- Red-Blue-White ( talk) 21:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
just wondering if the page should be updated to mention Stan Lee confirming Black Panther being in the MCU, its already updated on the Black Panther Page itself. maybe there should be part of the list or something where it has confirmed MCU films, but the ones that don't have official dates yet (like Thor 3 and Black Panther, both confirmed but don't have release dates yet, Thor has its director and stuff set though...) 173.51.207.69 ( talk) 01:06, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
I know that, what I was saying though is mention that its been confirmed by him that it will be in the MCU, I wasn't arguing about whether he said they were working on it or not. In other words have a line in there or something that says something to the effect of "in Late August/Early September 2014 (I don't remember the exact date) Stan Lee confirmed that a Black Panther Movie is in development and confirmed that it will be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe Lineup", would something like that be ok to add onto the page, since it is factual information confirmed by a reliable source? 173.51.207.69 ( talk) 04:49, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
I have created a timeline for the release schedule to this article. I'm writing this now to explain why it's there. For starters, having a graphical representation is a helpful way of assisting visual learners an easy view of the releases, and it also summarises well how the phases have been defined. This doesn't belong in a regular article, I agree, but in a list article, such as this, it's perfectly suited. -- rm 'w a vu 03:06, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't Downey be added to the cast since he's technically contracted for The Avengers 3, which would be this? 2601:C:780:234:511D:BD81:BCA8:F8D3 ( talk) 21:28, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
The comics, One-Shots, and TV pages all have a or several tables which are transcluded to the main MCU page. Should we look at doing that here or is there no point? - adamstom97 ( talk) 06:49, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
The cast table, which should be more of an overview, is starting to get a little long, with characters (such as the Collector's aide or Senator Stern) who aren't really recurring or important. Should we maybe add another stipulation? Say, the character must have appeared in the main cast of at least two films? We could use the same criteria we use for the film page infoboxes. - Fandraltastic ( talk) 18:35, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
I started this conversation over at the List of Marvel Cinematic Universe film actors page, but it really should be discussed here. Basically, I feel that this table is not serving the use it was intended to as well as could be. Yes, it is a nifty way to see which characters have shown up in different franchises, but it is made redundant by the actual list, where the recurring nature both through individual films and across phases is emphasised. I believe that prose can much more accurately represent the recurring nature of cast and characters throughout the films, just as is done at Marvel Cinematic Universe, where a table like this could be easily set up to show which characters have appeared in which mediums, but ultimately it is unnecessary, and it would prevent the section from including such important information as the multiple actors who portray Howard Stark, etc. This is a similar situation, and if we had prose instead of this table, we would be able to identify not just recurring characters and cast members, but significant characters and cast members who perhaps do not fit into the current parametres of the table. It should also be noted that as more films are released, the parametres of the table must tighten, and even more characters will be cut out, increasing the redundancy of the table. I think this is an issue that really needs to be dealt with, so please carry on this discussion if you have any thoughts. - adamstom97 ( talk) 13:41, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
This is what I have in mind. - adamstom97 ( talk) 10:43, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93 and ProfessorKilroy: What do you guys think about the table now that it has become so big? I think we at least need to tighten our criteria for inclusion in the table. - adamstom97 ( talk) 21:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Regarding today's announcement: we do not need a bazillion single sentence sub-sections. Many of these can still be folded into the "Other potential projects" section.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 20:23, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Please let me know if you find these suggestions agreeable and helpful to the page. Thank you for your feedback and guidance. Mlcorcoran ( talk) 20:35, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
I have just made a bold edit that goes against my statement above, as I have been thinking about this page, and I realized that the Phase 3 films aren't future films in the sense that futur films listed at the bottom of a film article are for separate articles, whereas these films belong collectively on this page. Also, we are including casting info for the Phase 3 films in the table, so they really should be listed before it. If you revert this edit, I would appreciate it being discussed here. - adamstom97 ( talk) 06:27, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm planning to add CinemaScore for the titles, as instructed here in the reception section. Shall I do that?? I don't wanna go for WP:WAR. DtwipzB Talk 16:28, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
This is a neutral notice that there is a discussion about whether or not future Spider-Man films are a part of the MCU at Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe#Spider-Man & Sinister Six. All are welcome to input. Thank you.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 16:53, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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I would like to request to put Spider-Man (2017) in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It has been confirmed by many sources including Varity, Sony and even Marvel. I don't get why there had to be an unnecessary discussion about Spider-Man being in the Marvel Cinematic Universe which was started by TriiipleThreat. TriiipleTreat stated there are no sources confirming it while Marvel has confirmed that Spider-Man is in the MCU, but I don't think TriiipleTreat actually read the deal between Sony and Marvel. Anyway I would like to request to put Spider-Man (2017) and Columbia Pictures in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. - Zzaxx1 ( talk) 11, February 2015 (UTC) Zzaxx1 ( talk) 14:08, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Why aren't the latest Spider-Man films included? Isn't Spider-Man a Marvel character? 137.205.170.1 ( talk) 17:09, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Let's put this whole Spider-Man not being or being in the Marvel Cinematic Universe at rest. Please for the love of God watch this video this guy in the video knows what he is taking about. Favre1fan93 and TriiipleTreat. -- Zzaxx1 ( talk) 13 February 2015 (UTC)
This isn't really about this article, more the individual film articles. Per WP:NUMERAL, do we want to begin using ordinals over spelling out the numbers for each film's place in the MCU? IE 11th over eleventh? NUMERAL says that 1-9 should be spelled out, which I'm fine with, but I also don't really have a problem spelling out the "teen" films. Maybe start ordinals with twentieth? So Infinity War Part 2 would be "20th installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU)". Thoughts? - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:35, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
I couldn't help entering this disagreement over the addition of Spider-Man into the MCU. It's completely pointless. Several people that have argued for the inclusion have provided sources that state the character is in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Also, Spider-Man's film is to be produced by Kevin Feige, the head of Marvel Studios. To make room for this change, Marvel moved back the release dates of four of their films (including Captain Marvel, Inhumans, Black Panther, and Thor: Ragnarok). Why would they do that if the film wasn't in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Sony should move back THEIR films, if that's the case. Also, judging by the article's content, I doubt that Sony would up and reboot the Spider-Man franchise, only to have him still a part of his own separate continuity. At this point, it should be added. Everyone understands Wikipedia strives to be accurate, but this is exercising futility in a nauseating way. If you are insistent on his remaining out of the article, then provide solid proof that he may not be a part of the shared Marvel universe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YoungImpressionist129 ( talk • contribs) 17:36, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
This new interview with Kevin Feige
[1] seems to pretty defintively state the 2017 Spider-Man film will be part of the MCU- he talks about the new Spider-Man as being part of the MCU, he talks about the film as a reboot of the series, and says the 2017 release was planned when Marvel was working out Phase 3. Anyone disagree that this makes it pretty definitive?
58.7.62.178 ( talk) 03:03, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
The film Ant-Man is still in future section of the article, while the film is only few months from being released. I thought about bringing it under the phase 2, but maintaining WP:GOODFAITH, I thought it would be better to talk about it first.
Agent Peggy Carter and Howard Stark are not listed on the list. Given that Peggy has appeared in 3 films and will appear in Ant-Man, Howard appeared in 2 films and will also appear in Ant-Man, and both are in the Agent Carter TV Show and One-Shot, they should be featured. Both will "be on the billing block more than twice", in 3 sub-franchises, Howard: (Iron Man 2, Captain America, Ant-Man) Peggy: (Captain America 1 & 2, Avengers 2, Ant-Man) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.41.692.54 ( talk) 15:49, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
@ TriiipleThreat: Hiya, Trip. Quick question: Not sure why we're using this French website if the Arad response is in the Bloomberg Businessweek article that the Daily Mars is citing. Could you clarify? Thanks! -- Tenebrae ( talk) 20:48, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
There's a really good chance that William Hurt and Chadwick Boseman could be in the billing block on the poster for Captain America: Civil War, so I'm just wondering if it's cool to add Thunderbolt Ross and Black Panther to the table of recurring characters. -- StewieBaby05 ( talk) 20:13, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
I was just wondering since Thanos is the common link to the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy... -- StewieBaby05 ( talk) 20:00, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
So I've been feeling lately that this table is sort of very large and is only going to get larger (not to mention I think the "div" code is a WP:ACCESS violation). As such, I came up with a slimed down version in my sandbox to hopefully implement, or at least get the discussion going on how we can change this table format up (since it is only supposed to be the select few actors to guide readers to the main list of actors page for more info). - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 05:27, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
@ Adamstom.97 and Ditto51: Thoughts on either two of my proposals? Also pinging @ ProfessorKilroy, TriiipleThreat, and Richiekim: who may be interested in joining this discussion. - Favre1fan93 ( talk)
@ Favre1fan93: Given the recent change over at the TV page, I have rethought your second option, and now present a slightly altered version for consideration: [1]. Any thoughts? - adamstom97 ( talk) 16:19, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Dividing the tables into three separate tables for the phases and having to repeat characters makes the section too large in my opinion. Either we should return to the single scrollable table or just remove it completely and point to the main list article.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 19:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Is there not a policy against link only sections? I would day either the table in Favre's sandbox or just list some of the more common cast, like Downey, Evans and Jackson?.-- Ditto51 ( My Talk Page) 18:45, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
So many of you probably also edit TV pages and have come across people claiming that WP:CRYSTAL disallows the use of years in season headings if the season has not aired in that year (see Once Upon a Time (TV series)#Season 5 (2015), List of The Flash (2014 TV series) episodes#Season 2 (2015) and Draft:Arrowverse#DC's Legends of Tomorrow), in particular the Arrowverse page since that is set to premiere in 2016. So basically what I'm asking is what makes films different? Why can we put 2018 next to Infinity War Part 1 but can't put -16 next to the second season of The Flash or the fifth season of Once?-- Ditto51 ( My Talk Page) 14:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Can someone add Phil Coulson to the cast list? He's been in four films. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.174.133.212 ( talk) 15:28, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Someone please tell me there are drafts to those pages.
The article currently contains the phrase, "Rich Wilkes was hired to write a screenplay for Iron Fist in August 2010," under the "Other potential films" section. Given that Finn Jones has been cast and the Netflix series is on the brink of starting production, can we remove this phrase? Its source is from 2010 and much of the other information in the article is outdated. - Rmaynardjr ( talk) 15:35, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
It's a big assumption that the new Spider-Man will simply be called Spider-Man. This hasn't been directly addressed anywhere. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible ( talk) 00:01, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
After reading the article (Marvel Cinematic Universe), I came across the piece about the MCU movie, Thor: Ragnarok...
Firstly: There has been rumors about Sam Jackson featuring in Thor: Ragnarok, but this hasn't been confirmed by either the studio and the makers of the film. It doesn't make to put him in there.
Another point of discussion is the role Cate Blanchette is playing. In the article is says that she is playing Hella, but that isn't confirmed either. On top of that, Tessa Thompson is confirmed to be in the movie, also in an unspecified role, but that information is not found in the Thor: Ragnarok part of the MCU article. I wanted to edit these information, but someone is constantly putting it back into its original state. Please, correct these errors as soon as possible. Wikipedia is meant to give information to a specific subject, not to give people hope by gossip and hearsay...Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brongers457 ( talk • contribs) 14:14, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
As someone who references this page a lot, it has become increasing difficult to reference the "Recurring cast and characters" table. There is way too much going on there, and the constant need for scrolling up and down is difficult on both mobile devices and computers when all you want is a brief overview of certain characters. It would be much easier if it was split up into the three "phases" or something. Or have the main cast members listed first, rather than all over the place in no particular order. This isn't just me being incompetent, I'm just wondering that, surely, there must be an easier way to display the recurring cast members? 109.151.166.209 ( talk) 15:54, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Is there a reason why Doctor Strange doesn't have a column but Black Panther and Spiderman do? TheDawnTreader777 ( talk) 06:00, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
This article states that "Three untitled films, part of Phase Three, are set for release on May 1, July 10, and November 6, 2020." I know these release dates were announced in a Phase Three press update, but does this really mean that they are actually for Phase Three? It doesn't really seem that way in my opinion. For example, after Inhumans was removed from Marvel's release schedule, Feige confirmed that the film would no longer be part of Phase Three in this article, stating that Phase Three got too full since October 2014. As you know, in October 2014, Avengers: Infinity War - Part 2 was announced as the final Phase Three film. Avengers films have always been at the very end of Phases, being the last film of Phase One, and the penultimate Phase Two film. Age of Ultron was actually supposed to conclude Phase Two, but Ant-Man ultimately did this due to a creative decision since Ant-Man reportedly did not feel like a strong start to Phase Three and it connected a lot with Age of Ultron. Inhumans would have concluded Phase Three (due to the additions of Spider-Man: Homecoming and Ant-Man and the Wasp), but ultimately these additions, as explained by Feige, caused Phase Three to be too packed for Inhumans to be included. It seems very unlikely that the 2020 releases would be part of Phase Three if they already thought it was packed enough and even postponed a movie as a result of this. Also, this article, specifically Kevin Feige's quote, seems to indicate that Avengers: Infinity War - Part 2 will mark the conclusion of Phase Three and everything that has come before it. It seems like any movie released after this would be part of the next phase. It is very unlikely that the culmination of pretty much the whole MCU would be followed by three films to close off the phase. Also, the source doesn't specifically state that the 2020 releases are actually part of Phase Three. The article itself was a Phase Three update, but the sentence that mentions the 2020 releases doesn't explicitly state that the 2020 releases are part of Phase Three, so this whole thing just seems like an assumption. Then again, the 2020 releases were not stated as being part of the next phase either. Basically the point is we may not know right now what phases these films are actually in with the information we have currently. I'd say we take off "part of Phase Three" from the sentence and just let it read like this: "Three untitled films are set for release on May 1, July 10, and November 6, 2020." We can then add the phase later once we have solid confirmation about it. JaciFan ( talk) 04:08, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Only made this for fun, if you want used or updated with new films, go ahead. -- 190.236.231.238 ( talk) 19:04, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Film | Director | Writer(s) | Producer(s) | Executive producer(s) | Composer | Director of photography | Editor(s) |
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Iron Man | Jon Favreau |
Mark Fegus, Hawk Otsby, Art Marcum, Matt Holloway |
Avi Arad, Kevin Feige |
Louis D'Esposito, Peter Gillingsley, Jon Favreau, Ari Arad, Stan Lee, David Maisel |
Ramin Djawadi | Matthew Libatique | Dan Lebental |
The Incredible Hulk | Louis Leterrier | Zak Penn | Avi Arad, Gale Anne Hurd, Kevin Feige |
Stan Lee, David Maisel, Jim Van Wyck |
Craig Armstrong | Peter Menzies Jr. |
John Wright, Rick Shaine, Vincent Tabaillon |
Iron Man 2 | Jon Favreau | Justin Theroux | Kevin Feige |
Alan Fine, Stan Lee, David Maisel, Denis L. Stewart, Louis D'Esposito, Jon Favreau, Susan Downey |
John Debney | Matthew Libatique | Dan Lebental, Richard Pearson |
Thor | Kenneth Branagh | Screenplay by Ashley Edward Miller, Zack Stentz, Don Payne Story by J. Michael Straczynski, Mark Protosevich |
Patricia Whitcher, Louis D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Stan Lee, David Maisel |
Patrick Doyle | Haris Zambarloukos | Paul Rubell | |
Captain America: The First Avenger | Joe Johnston |
Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely |
Louis D'Esposito, Joe Johnston, Nigel Gostelow, Alan Fine, Stan Lee, David Maisel |
Alan Silvestri | Shelly Johnson |
Jeffrey Ford, Robert Dalva | |
Marvel's The Avengers | Joss Whedon | Screenplay by Joss Whedon Story by Zak Penn, Joss Whedon |
Louis D'Esposito, Patricia Whitcher, Victoria Alonso, Jeremy Latcham, Alan Fine, Jon Favreau, Stan Lee |
Seamus McGarvey | Jeffrey Ford, Lisa Lassek | ||
Iron Man 3 | Shane Black |
Drew Pearce, Shane Black |
Jon Favreau, Louis D'Esposito, Charles Newirth, Victoria Alonso, Stephen Broussard, Alan Fine, Stan Lee, Dan Mintz |
Brian Tyler | John Toll | Jeffrey Ford, Peter S. Elliot | |
Thor: The Dark World | Alan Taylor | Screenplay by Christopher Yost, Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely Story by Don Payne, Robert Rodat |
Louis D'Esposito, Victoria Alonso, Craig Kyle, Alan Fine, Nigel Gostelow, Stan Lee |
Kramer Morgenthau | Dan Lebental, Wyatt Smith | ||
Captain America: The Winter Soldier | Anthony and Joe Russo | Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely |
Louis D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Victoria Alonso, Michael Grillo, Stan Lee |
Henry Jackman | Trent Opaloch | Jeffrey Ford, Matthew Schmidt | |
Guardians of the Galaxy | James Gunn | James Gunn, Nicole Perlman |
Nik Korda, Stan Lee, Victoria Alonso, Jeremy Latcham, Alan Fine, Louis D'Esposito |
Tyler Bates | Ben Davis |
Fred Raskin, Craig Wood, Hughes Winborne | |
Avengers: Age of Ultron | Joss Whedon | Joss Whedon | Louis D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Victoria Alonso, Jeremy Latcham, Patricia Whitcher, Jon Favreau, Stan Lee |
Brian Tyler, Danny Elfman |
Ben Davis | Jeffrey Ford, Lisa Lassek | |
Ant-Man | Peyton Reed | Screenplay by Edgar Wright, Joe Cornish, Adam McKay, Paul Rudd Story by Edgar Wright, Joe Cornish |
Louis D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Victoria Alonso, Michael Grillo, Stan Lee, Edgar Wright |
Christophe Beck | Russell Carpenter | Dan Lebental, Colby Parker Jr. | |
Captain America: Civil War | Anthony and Joe Russo | Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely |
Louis D'Esposito, Victoria Alonso, Patricia Whitcher, Nate Moore, Stan Lee |
Henry Jackman | Trent Opaloch | Jeffrey Ford, Matthew Schmidt |
I understand that we can't include every recurring cast member on the list. However, I can't understand why supporting characters like Heimdall, Maria Hill, General Ross and Erik Selvig who have only appeared in two franchises for a total of three films each (except Ross who has only appeared in two films) make the list, while Phil Coulson and Howard Stark who have both appeared in three franchises for a total of four films don't make the list. JDDJS ( talk) 16:01, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Should there be an average for the critic scores on here, just like there's an average for the critic scores on the DC Extended Universe page?- DCTrinity ( talk) 16:42, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Do we leave the information about film projects which materialize as television series under "Potential projects"? My inclination would be to say no; the older/vaguer information seems like it'd fit more cleanly under early development info on the pages for the TV series. We can always add back information if at some point in the future a film based on those properties re-enters development. - Fandraltastic ( talk) 01:33, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
Should we add Cinema Score for each movie like what they did in DCEU? 120.28.93.39 ( talk) 05:09, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Here is an article talking about Spider-Man kicking off Phase Four. It stops short authoritatively saying it will be in Phase Four, but there may be some stuff to use in here all the same. - DinoSlider ( talk) 15:53, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
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Do we really need to put the year in both the level-2 and level-3 headers. It seems the year in the level-3 headers would be sufficient. Also though its widely known, The phases are currently unreferenced.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 19:14, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Can someone fix it? I can't figure out what's wrong with it. Suzuku ( talk) 19:46, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Why this page don't have a crew table like other like Star Wars or X-Men? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1388:B46:2FED:48A5:46A8:DA42:1EB3 ( talk) 14:43, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
So I came across this article here that said Marvel had filed some trademarks which relate to films that have come out or will be. Yet, I went to the US trademark filings and found a few ( here, here and here), and they all say the filing is for "Downloadable electronic publications in the nature of comic books, comic magazines and stories in illustrated form." Compare that to Thor: The Dark World's filing, which says "Audio and visual recordings featuring live-action entertainment; musical recordings; video game software; cases for cellular telephones." Just want to make sure I am reading this correct that these are in fact NOT for films, but possibly upcoming comic titles/series. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 23:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
What does it mean? Is it a fan insider? -- Red-Blue-White ( talk) 21:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
just wondering if the page should be updated to mention Stan Lee confirming Black Panther being in the MCU, its already updated on the Black Panther Page itself. maybe there should be part of the list or something where it has confirmed MCU films, but the ones that don't have official dates yet (like Thor 3 and Black Panther, both confirmed but don't have release dates yet, Thor has its director and stuff set though...) 173.51.207.69 ( talk) 01:06, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
I know that, what I was saying though is mention that its been confirmed by him that it will be in the MCU, I wasn't arguing about whether he said they were working on it or not. In other words have a line in there or something that says something to the effect of "in Late August/Early September 2014 (I don't remember the exact date) Stan Lee confirmed that a Black Panther Movie is in development and confirmed that it will be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe Lineup", would something like that be ok to add onto the page, since it is factual information confirmed by a reliable source? 173.51.207.69 ( talk) 04:49, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
I have created a timeline for the release schedule to this article. I'm writing this now to explain why it's there. For starters, having a graphical representation is a helpful way of assisting visual learners an easy view of the releases, and it also summarises well how the phases have been defined. This doesn't belong in a regular article, I agree, but in a list article, such as this, it's perfectly suited. -- rm 'w a vu 03:06, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't Downey be added to the cast since he's technically contracted for The Avengers 3, which would be this? 2601:C:780:234:511D:BD81:BCA8:F8D3 ( talk) 21:28, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
The comics, One-Shots, and TV pages all have a or several tables which are transcluded to the main MCU page. Should we look at doing that here or is there no point? - adamstom97 ( talk) 06:49, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
The cast table, which should be more of an overview, is starting to get a little long, with characters (such as the Collector's aide or Senator Stern) who aren't really recurring or important. Should we maybe add another stipulation? Say, the character must have appeared in the main cast of at least two films? We could use the same criteria we use for the film page infoboxes. - Fandraltastic ( talk) 18:35, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
I started this conversation over at the List of Marvel Cinematic Universe film actors page, but it really should be discussed here. Basically, I feel that this table is not serving the use it was intended to as well as could be. Yes, it is a nifty way to see which characters have shown up in different franchises, but it is made redundant by the actual list, where the recurring nature both through individual films and across phases is emphasised. I believe that prose can much more accurately represent the recurring nature of cast and characters throughout the films, just as is done at Marvel Cinematic Universe, where a table like this could be easily set up to show which characters have appeared in which mediums, but ultimately it is unnecessary, and it would prevent the section from including such important information as the multiple actors who portray Howard Stark, etc. This is a similar situation, and if we had prose instead of this table, we would be able to identify not just recurring characters and cast members, but significant characters and cast members who perhaps do not fit into the current parametres of the table. It should also be noted that as more films are released, the parametres of the table must tighten, and even more characters will be cut out, increasing the redundancy of the table. I think this is an issue that really needs to be dealt with, so please carry on this discussion if you have any thoughts. - adamstom97 ( talk) 13:41, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
This is what I have in mind. - adamstom97 ( talk) 10:43, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93 and ProfessorKilroy: What do you guys think about the table now that it has become so big? I think we at least need to tighten our criteria for inclusion in the table. - adamstom97 ( talk) 21:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Regarding today's announcement: we do not need a bazillion single sentence sub-sections. Many of these can still be folded into the "Other potential projects" section.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 20:23, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Please let me know if you find these suggestions agreeable and helpful to the page. Thank you for your feedback and guidance. Mlcorcoran ( talk) 20:35, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
I have just made a bold edit that goes against my statement above, as I have been thinking about this page, and I realized that the Phase 3 films aren't future films in the sense that futur films listed at the bottom of a film article are for separate articles, whereas these films belong collectively on this page. Also, we are including casting info for the Phase 3 films in the table, so they really should be listed before it. If you revert this edit, I would appreciate it being discussed here. - adamstom97 ( talk) 06:27, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm planning to add CinemaScore for the titles, as instructed here in the reception section. Shall I do that?? I don't wanna go for WP:WAR. DtwipzB Talk 16:28, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
This is a neutral notice that there is a discussion about whether or not future Spider-Man films are a part of the MCU at Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe#Spider-Man & Sinister Six. All are welcome to input. Thank you.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 16:53, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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I would like to request to put Spider-Man (2017) in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It has been confirmed by many sources including Varity, Sony and even Marvel. I don't get why there had to be an unnecessary discussion about Spider-Man being in the Marvel Cinematic Universe which was started by TriiipleThreat. TriiipleTreat stated there are no sources confirming it while Marvel has confirmed that Spider-Man is in the MCU, but I don't think TriiipleTreat actually read the deal between Sony and Marvel. Anyway I would like to request to put Spider-Man (2017) and Columbia Pictures in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. - Zzaxx1 ( talk) 11, February 2015 (UTC) Zzaxx1 ( talk) 14:08, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Why aren't the latest Spider-Man films included? Isn't Spider-Man a Marvel character? 137.205.170.1 ( talk) 17:09, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Let's put this whole Spider-Man not being or being in the Marvel Cinematic Universe at rest. Please for the love of God watch this video this guy in the video knows what he is taking about. Favre1fan93 and TriiipleTreat. -- Zzaxx1 ( talk) 13 February 2015 (UTC)
This isn't really about this article, more the individual film articles. Per WP:NUMERAL, do we want to begin using ordinals over spelling out the numbers for each film's place in the MCU? IE 11th over eleventh? NUMERAL says that 1-9 should be spelled out, which I'm fine with, but I also don't really have a problem spelling out the "teen" films. Maybe start ordinals with twentieth? So Infinity War Part 2 would be "20th installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU)". Thoughts? - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:35, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
I couldn't help entering this disagreement over the addition of Spider-Man into the MCU. It's completely pointless. Several people that have argued for the inclusion have provided sources that state the character is in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Also, Spider-Man's film is to be produced by Kevin Feige, the head of Marvel Studios. To make room for this change, Marvel moved back the release dates of four of their films (including Captain Marvel, Inhumans, Black Panther, and Thor: Ragnarok). Why would they do that if the film wasn't in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Sony should move back THEIR films, if that's the case. Also, judging by the article's content, I doubt that Sony would up and reboot the Spider-Man franchise, only to have him still a part of his own separate continuity. At this point, it should be added. Everyone understands Wikipedia strives to be accurate, but this is exercising futility in a nauseating way. If you are insistent on his remaining out of the article, then provide solid proof that he may not be a part of the shared Marvel universe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YoungImpressionist129 ( talk • contribs) 17:36, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
This new interview with Kevin Feige
[1] seems to pretty defintively state the 2017 Spider-Man film will be part of the MCU- he talks about the new Spider-Man as being part of the MCU, he talks about the film as a reboot of the series, and says the 2017 release was planned when Marvel was working out Phase 3. Anyone disagree that this makes it pretty definitive?
58.7.62.178 ( talk) 03:03, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
The film Ant-Man is still in future section of the article, while the film is only few months from being released. I thought about bringing it under the phase 2, but maintaining WP:GOODFAITH, I thought it would be better to talk about it first.
Agent Peggy Carter and Howard Stark are not listed on the list. Given that Peggy has appeared in 3 films and will appear in Ant-Man, Howard appeared in 2 films and will also appear in Ant-Man, and both are in the Agent Carter TV Show and One-Shot, they should be featured. Both will "be on the billing block more than twice", in 3 sub-franchises, Howard: (Iron Man 2, Captain America, Ant-Man) Peggy: (Captain America 1 & 2, Avengers 2, Ant-Man) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.41.692.54 ( talk) 15:49, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
@ TriiipleThreat: Hiya, Trip. Quick question: Not sure why we're using this French website if the Arad response is in the Bloomberg Businessweek article that the Daily Mars is citing. Could you clarify? Thanks! -- Tenebrae ( talk) 20:48, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
There's a really good chance that William Hurt and Chadwick Boseman could be in the billing block on the poster for Captain America: Civil War, so I'm just wondering if it's cool to add Thunderbolt Ross and Black Panther to the table of recurring characters. -- StewieBaby05 ( talk) 20:13, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
I was just wondering since Thanos is the common link to the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy... -- StewieBaby05 ( talk) 20:00, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
So I've been feeling lately that this table is sort of very large and is only going to get larger (not to mention I think the "div" code is a WP:ACCESS violation). As such, I came up with a slimed down version in my sandbox to hopefully implement, or at least get the discussion going on how we can change this table format up (since it is only supposed to be the select few actors to guide readers to the main list of actors page for more info). - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 05:27, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
@ Adamstom.97 and Ditto51: Thoughts on either two of my proposals? Also pinging @ ProfessorKilroy, TriiipleThreat, and Richiekim: who may be interested in joining this discussion. - Favre1fan93 ( talk)
@ Favre1fan93: Given the recent change over at the TV page, I have rethought your second option, and now present a slightly altered version for consideration: [1]. Any thoughts? - adamstom97 ( talk) 16:19, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Dividing the tables into three separate tables for the phases and having to repeat characters makes the section too large in my opinion. Either we should return to the single scrollable table or just remove it completely and point to the main list article.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 19:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Is there not a policy against link only sections? I would day either the table in Favre's sandbox or just list some of the more common cast, like Downey, Evans and Jackson?.-- Ditto51 ( My Talk Page) 18:45, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
So many of you probably also edit TV pages and have come across people claiming that WP:CRYSTAL disallows the use of years in season headings if the season has not aired in that year (see Once Upon a Time (TV series)#Season 5 (2015), List of The Flash (2014 TV series) episodes#Season 2 (2015) and Draft:Arrowverse#DC's Legends of Tomorrow), in particular the Arrowverse page since that is set to premiere in 2016. So basically what I'm asking is what makes films different? Why can we put 2018 next to Infinity War Part 1 but can't put -16 next to the second season of The Flash or the fifth season of Once?-- Ditto51 ( My Talk Page) 14:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Can someone add Phil Coulson to the cast list? He's been in four films. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.174.133.212 ( talk) 15:28, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Someone please tell me there are drafts to those pages.
The article currently contains the phrase, "Rich Wilkes was hired to write a screenplay for Iron Fist in August 2010," under the "Other potential films" section. Given that Finn Jones has been cast and the Netflix series is on the brink of starting production, can we remove this phrase? Its source is from 2010 and much of the other information in the article is outdated. - Rmaynardjr ( talk) 15:35, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
It's a big assumption that the new Spider-Man will simply be called Spider-Man. This hasn't been directly addressed anywhere. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible ( talk) 00:01, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
After reading the article (Marvel Cinematic Universe), I came across the piece about the MCU movie, Thor: Ragnarok...
Firstly: There has been rumors about Sam Jackson featuring in Thor: Ragnarok, but this hasn't been confirmed by either the studio and the makers of the film. It doesn't make to put him in there.
Another point of discussion is the role Cate Blanchette is playing. In the article is says that she is playing Hella, but that isn't confirmed either. On top of that, Tessa Thompson is confirmed to be in the movie, also in an unspecified role, but that information is not found in the Thor: Ragnarok part of the MCU article. I wanted to edit these information, but someone is constantly putting it back into its original state. Please, correct these errors as soon as possible. Wikipedia is meant to give information to a specific subject, not to give people hope by gossip and hearsay...Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brongers457 ( talk • contribs) 14:14, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
As someone who references this page a lot, it has become increasing difficult to reference the "Recurring cast and characters" table. There is way too much going on there, and the constant need for scrolling up and down is difficult on both mobile devices and computers when all you want is a brief overview of certain characters. It would be much easier if it was split up into the three "phases" or something. Or have the main cast members listed first, rather than all over the place in no particular order. This isn't just me being incompetent, I'm just wondering that, surely, there must be an easier way to display the recurring cast members? 109.151.166.209 ( talk) 15:54, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Is there a reason why Doctor Strange doesn't have a column but Black Panther and Spiderman do? TheDawnTreader777 ( talk) 06:00, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
This article states that "Three untitled films, part of Phase Three, are set for release on May 1, July 10, and November 6, 2020." I know these release dates were announced in a Phase Three press update, but does this really mean that they are actually for Phase Three? It doesn't really seem that way in my opinion. For example, after Inhumans was removed from Marvel's release schedule, Feige confirmed that the film would no longer be part of Phase Three in this article, stating that Phase Three got too full since October 2014. As you know, in October 2014, Avengers: Infinity War - Part 2 was announced as the final Phase Three film. Avengers films have always been at the very end of Phases, being the last film of Phase One, and the penultimate Phase Two film. Age of Ultron was actually supposed to conclude Phase Two, but Ant-Man ultimately did this due to a creative decision since Ant-Man reportedly did not feel like a strong start to Phase Three and it connected a lot with Age of Ultron. Inhumans would have concluded Phase Three (due to the additions of Spider-Man: Homecoming and Ant-Man and the Wasp), but ultimately these additions, as explained by Feige, caused Phase Three to be too packed for Inhumans to be included. It seems very unlikely that the 2020 releases would be part of Phase Three if they already thought it was packed enough and even postponed a movie as a result of this. Also, this article, specifically Kevin Feige's quote, seems to indicate that Avengers: Infinity War - Part 2 will mark the conclusion of Phase Three and everything that has come before it. It seems like any movie released after this would be part of the next phase. It is very unlikely that the culmination of pretty much the whole MCU would be followed by three films to close off the phase. Also, the source doesn't specifically state that the 2020 releases are actually part of Phase Three. The article itself was a Phase Three update, but the sentence that mentions the 2020 releases doesn't explicitly state that the 2020 releases are part of Phase Three, so this whole thing just seems like an assumption. Then again, the 2020 releases were not stated as being part of the next phase either. Basically the point is we may not know right now what phases these films are actually in with the information we have currently. I'd say we take off "part of Phase Three" from the sentence and just let it read like this: "Three untitled films are set for release on May 1, July 10, and November 6, 2020." We can then add the phase later once we have solid confirmation about it. JaciFan ( talk) 04:08, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Only made this for fun, if you want used or updated with new films, go ahead. -- 190.236.231.238 ( talk) 19:04, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Film | Director | Writer(s) | Producer(s) | Executive producer(s) | Composer | Director of photography | Editor(s) |
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Iron Man | Jon Favreau |
Mark Fegus, Hawk Otsby, Art Marcum, Matt Holloway |
Avi Arad, Kevin Feige |
Louis D'Esposito, Peter Gillingsley, Jon Favreau, Ari Arad, Stan Lee, David Maisel |
Ramin Djawadi | Matthew Libatique | Dan Lebental |
The Incredible Hulk | Louis Leterrier | Zak Penn | Avi Arad, Gale Anne Hurd, Kevin Feige |
Stan Lee, David Maisel, Jim Van Wyck |
Craig Armstrong | Peter Menzies Jr. |
John Wright, Rick Shaine, Vincent Tabaillon |
Iron Man 2 | Jon Favreau | Justin Theroux | Kevin Feige |
Alan Fine, Stan Lee, David Maisel, Denis L. Stewart, Louis D'Esposito, Jon Favreau, Susan Downey |
John Debney | Matthew Libatique | Dan Lebental, Richard Pearson |
Thor | Kenneth Branagh | Screenplay by Ashley Edward Miller, Zack Stentz, Don Payne Story by J. Michael Straczynski, Mark Protosevich |
Patricia Whitcher, Louis D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Stan Lee, David Maisel |
Patrick Doyle | Haris Zambarloukos | Paul Rubell | |
Captain America: The First Avenger | Joe Johnston |
Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely |
Louis D'Esposito, Joe Johnston, Nigel Gostelow, Alan Fine, Stan Lee, David Maisel |
Alan Silvestri | Shelly Johnson |
Jeffrey Ford, Robert Dalva | |
Marvel's The Avengers | Joss Whedon | Screenplay by Joss Whedon Story by Zak Penn, Joss Whedon |
Louis D'Esposito, Patricia Whitcher, Victoria Alonso, Jeremy Latcham, Alan Fine, Jon Favreau, Stan Lee |
Seamus McGarvey | Jeffrey Ford, Lisa Lassek | ||
Iron Man 3 | Shane Black |
Drew Pearce, Shane Black |
Jon Favreau, Louis D'Esposito, Charles Newirth, Victoria Alonso, Stephen Broussard, Alan Fine, Stan Lee, Dan Mintz |
Brian Tyler | John Toll | Jeffrey Ford, Peter S. Elliot | |
Thor: The Dark World | Alan Taylor | Screenplay by Christopher Yost, Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely Story by Don Payne, Robert Rodat |
Louis D'Esposito, Victoria Alonso, Craig Kyle, Alan Fine, Nigel Gostelow, Stan Lee |
Kramer Morgenthau | Dan Lebental, Wyatt Smith | ||
Captain America: The Winter Soldier | Anthony and Joe Russo | Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely |
Louis D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Victoria Alonso, Michael Grillo, Stan Lee |
Henry Jackman | Trent Opaloch | Jeffrey Ford, Matthew Schmidt | |
Guardians of the Galaxy | James Gunn | James Gunn, Nicole Perlman |
Nik Korda, Stan Lee, Victoria Alonso, Jeremy Latcham, Alan Fine, Louis D'Esposito |
Tyler Bates | Ben Davis |
Fred Raskin, Craig Wood, Hughes Winborne | |
Avengers: Age of Ultron | Joss Whedon | Joss Whedon | Louis D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Victoria Alonso, Jeremy Latcham, Patricia Whitcher, Jon Favreau, Stan Lee |
Brian Tyler, Danny Elfman |
Ben Davis | Jeffrey Ford, Lisa Lassek | |
Ant-Man | Peyton Reed | Screenplay by Edgar Wright, Joe Cornish, Adam McKay, Paul Rudd Story by Edgar Wright, Joe Cornish |
Louis D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Victoria Alonso, Michael Grillo, Stan Lee, Edgar Wright |
Christophe Beck | Russell Carpenter | Dan Lebental, Colby Parker Jr. | |
Captain America: Civil War | Anthony and Joe Russo | Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely |
Louis D'Esposito, Victoria Alonso, Patricia Whitcher, Nate Moore, Stan Lee |
Henry Jackman | Trent Opaloch | Jeffrey Ford, Matthew Schmidt |
I understand that we can't include every recurring cast member on the list. However, I can't understand why supporting characters like Heimdall, Maria Hill, General Ross and Erik Selvig who have only appeared in two franchises for a total of three films each (except Ross who has only appeared in two films) make the list, while Phil Coulson and Howard Stark who have both appeared in three franchises for a total of four films don't make the list. JDDJS ( talk) 16:01, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Should there be an average for the critic scores on here, just like there's an average for the critic scores on the DC Extended Universe page?- DCTrinity ( talk) 16:42, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Do we leave the information about film projects which materialize as television series under "Potential projects"? My inclination would be to say no; the older/vaguer information seems like it'd fit more cleanly under early development info on the pages for the TV series. We can always add back information if at some point in the future a film based on those properties re-enters development. - Fandraltastic ( talk) 01:33, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
Should we add Cinema Score for each movie like what they did in DCEU? 120.28.93.39 ( talk) 05:09, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Here is an article talking about Spider-Man kicking off Phase Four. It stops short authoritatively saying it will be in Phase Four, but there may be some stuff to use in here all the same. - DinoSlider ( talk) 15:53, 12 December 2016 (UTC)