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There seems to be some confusion over the transmition dates for Series 9.
The BBC comedy Guide suggests 1987, following the special "Merry Christmas, Father Christmas", but the official BBC book "30 years of Last of the Summer Wine" gives the dates as 1986, before "Merry Christmas, Father Christmas".
The Official LotSW appreciation society website http://www.summer-wine.com/summer-wine/episodes.htm gives the 1986 date as well.
The website epguides.com http://www.epguides.com/Lastofthesummerwine/ also uses the 1986 dates.
This website http://ichuddersfield.icnetwork.co.uk/0500summerwine/0200characters/index.cfm?page=3 gives Eli's first appearance in Jaws the 1986 date
IMDB gives the 1987 dates
So i'm going to change the dates back to 1986, as that seems to be the majority concensis, unless other clearer evidence can be found -- The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.177.121.177 ( Talk) on 00:48, 10 March 2007.
Just brought to my attention is a BBC1 Junction Video Clip from "Merry Christmas, Father Christmas" (28 December 1986) on YouTube ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfzJnj0Atdc) which very forcefully points at 4 January 1987 for start of Series#9 with "Why Does Norman Clegg Buy Ladies' Elastic Stockings?". 1987 does seem most authentic given that for that year dates are Sunday applicable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankmoyes ( talk • contribs) 14:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
I've added templates to the article since it has become extremly long and has inconsistent style, with some series in tables and others in lists. I'd like to hear ideas on how to fix this problem, as I know the article has become so long because of how long : Last of the Summer Wine has been on the air. -- Redfarmer ( talk) 18:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Radio Times covering up to 4th January 2008 has been published. There is no reference to a Christmas Special (nor a New Year Special for that matter). Is the entry here of a 2007 Christmas Special authentic? Frankmoyes ( talk) 21:11, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
SPECIALS ON BOXED SET SERIES 9 & 10
The page is currently showing that Specials 'Uncle of the Bride', 'Merry Christmas, Father Christmas' and 'Big Day at Dream Acre' will be on boxed set due out 5th May 2008. However, suppliers are specifying only 'Big Day at Dream Acre' and 'Crums'. What is source of information being used here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankmoyes ( talk • contribs) 08:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
The page is currently showing that Specials 'Uncle of the Bride', 'Merry Christmas, Father Christmas' and 'Big Day at Dream Acre' will be on Series 9 and 10 boxset due out 5th May 2008. However, suppliers are specifying only 'Big Day at Dream Acre' and 'Crums'. What is source of information being used by contributor here? Frankmoyes ( talk) 14:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Latest information does indicate that the list of Specials, 'Uncle of the Bride', 'Merry Christmas, Father Christmas' and 'Big Day at Dream Acre', is correct. However, it now looks as if calling it Series#9 and Series #10 is a bit of a misnomer. It would appear that it will contain only the twelve 1986 UK Series #9 episodes along with the Specials. There will be none of what UK calls Series#10 (from 1988). Frankmoyes ( talk) 13:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
The Series 9 & 10 Boxset is now on the street and does not contain the six episodes from what is designated Series 10 on the subject page. The Series Overview needs to be amended accordingly.
It should be noted that on this Boxset, 'Uncle of the Bride' is designated Christmas Special 1995, not New Year Special 1996.
In the Series Overview Series 16 is dated 1994 but in two other places it is dated 1995.
Is the Note about Series 16 and 17 correct? What is stated seems to apply to Series 9 which becomes Series 9 & 10 when exported (and is now the case with the latest Boxset DVD). See http://www.bbcprograms.com/pbs/catalog/lastofsummer/loswdesc.htm. Frankmoyes ( talk) 09:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Some controversy is apparently erupting over the number of series, specifically regarding the 1986 series. What has happened is BBC Sales has broken up series 9 into two series for the purpose of international and DVD distribution. [1] However, there are still only 28 series to date. The evidence:
I would ask that we not accept the revisionist account by BBC Sales, the commercial distribution arm of the BBC, as they only seems to be to show potential buyers they are getting more for their money, not to accurately depict the actual history of the show. Above all, any changes to the current numbering need to be sourced or it is original research. Redfarmer ( talk) 23:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
To harmonise numbers specified for current Series#29, with which I agree, Comedy Playhouse Pilot will need to be designated Episode#1 and errors in numbering of subsequent episodes will need to be corrected. For example, there are two episodes nubered #20 and two #28 Frankmoyes ( talk) 15:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Main Last of the Summer Wine article specifies 270 episodes as of 6 July 2008. To get that number the pilot needs to be included (as has always been the case with this programme). In any event, it was an episode of Last of the Summer Wine, after all. In process of checking episode numbering, noted that Series#5, Episode#6, "Here We Go Into The Wild Blue Yonder" is missing from list. To get harmonisation, last episode of Series#15 "Alladin Gets on Your Wick", needs to be Episode#128 (increment by four). Frankmoyes ( talk) 16:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Should it not be recorded that final episode of Series#28 is Smiler's last appearance. Stephen Lewis article notes he left in 2007 due to ill health. Frankmoyes ( talk) 16:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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There seems to be some confusion over the transmition dates for Series 9.
The BBC comedy Guide suggests 1987, following the special "Merry Christmas, Father Christmas", but the official BBC book "30 years of Last of the Summer Wine" gives the dates as 1986, before "Merry Christmas, Father Christmas".
The Official LotSW appreciation society website http://www.summer-wine.com/summer-wine/episodes.htm gives the 1986 date as well.
The website epguides.com http://www.epguides.com/Lastofthesummerwine/ also uses the 1986 dates.
This website http://ichuddersfield.icnetwork.co.uk/0500summerwine/0200characters/index.cfm?page=3 gives Eli's first appearance in Jaws the 1986 date
IMDB gives the 1987 dates
So i'm going to change the dates back to 1986, as that seems to be the majority concensis, unless other clearer evidence can be found -- The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.177.121.177 ( Talk) on 00:48, 10 March 2007.
Just brought to my attention is a BBC1 Junction Video Clip from "Merry Christmas, Father Christmas" (28 December 1986) on YouTube ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfzJnj0Atdc) which very forcefully points at 4 January 1987 for start of Series#9 with "Why Does Norman Clegg Buy Ladies' Elastic Stockings?". 1987 does seem most authentic given that for that year dates are Sunday applicable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankmoyes ( talk • contribs) 14:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
I've added templates to the article since it has become extremly long and has inconsistent style, with some series in tables and others in lists. I'd like to hear ideas on how to fix this problem, as I know the article has become so long because of how long : Last of the Summer Wine has been on the air. -- Redfarmer ( talk) 18:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Radio Times covering up to 4th January 2008 has been published. There is no reference to a Christmas Special (nor a New Year Special for that matter). Is the entry here of a 2007 Christmas Special authentic? Frankmoyes ( talk) 21:11, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
SPECIALS ON BOXED SET SERIES 9 & 10
The page is currently showing that Specials 'Uncle of the Bride', 'Merry Christmas, Father Christmas' and 'Big Day at Dream Acre' will be on boxed set due out 5th May 2008. However, suppliers are specifying only 'Big Day at Dream Acre' and 'Crums'. What is source of information being used here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankmoyes ( talk • contribs) 08:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
The page is currently showing that Specials 'Uncle of the Bride', 'Merry Christmas, Father Christmas' and 'Big Day at Dream Acre' will be on Series 9 and 10 boxset due out 5th May 2008. However, suppliers are specifying only 'Big Day at Dream Acre' and 'Crums'. What is source of information being used by contributor here? Frankmoyes ( talk) 14:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Latest information does indicate that the list of Specials, 'Uncle of the Bride', 'Merry Christmas, Father Christmas' and 'Big Day at Dream Acre', is correct. However, it now looks as if calling it Series#9 and Series #10 is a bit of a misnomer. It would appear that it will contain only the twelve 1986 UK Series #9 episodes along with the Specials. There will be none of what UK calls Series#10 (from 1988). Frankmoyes ( talk) 13:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
The Series 9 & 10 Boxset is now on the street and does not contain the six episodes from what is designated Series 10 on the subject page. The Series Overview needs to be amended accordingly.
It should be noted that on this Boxset, 'Uncle of the Bride' is designated Christmas Special 1995, not New Year Special 1996.
In the Series Overview Series 16 is dated 1994 but in two other places it is dated 1995.
Is the Note about Series 16 and 17 correct? What is stated seems to apply to Series 9 which becomes Series 9 & 10 when exported (and is now the case with the latest Boxset DVD). See http://www.bbcprograms.com/pbs/catalog/lastofsummer/loswdesc.htm. Frankmoyes ( talk) 09:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Some controversy is apparently erupting over the number of series, specifically regarding the 1986 series. What has happened is BBC Sales has broken up series 9 into two series for the purpose of international and DVD distribution. [1] However, there are still only 28 series to date. The evidence:
I would ask that we not accept the revisionist account by BBC Sales, the commercial distribution arm of the BBC, as they only seems to be to show potential buyers they are getting more for their money, not to accurately depict the actual history of the show. Above all, any changes to the current numbering need to be sourced or it is original research. Redfarmer ( talk) 23:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
To harmonise numbers specified for current Series#29, with which I agree, Comedy Playhouse Pilot will need to be designated Episode#1 and errors in numbering of subsequent episodes will need to be corrected. For example, there are two episodes nubered #20 and two #28 Frankmoyes ( talk) 15:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Main Last of the Summer Wine article specifies 270 episodes as of 6 July 2008. To get that number the pilot needs to be included (as has always been the case with this programme). In any event, it was an episode of Last of the Summer Wine, after all. In process of checking episode numbering, noted that Series#5, Episode#6, "Here We Go Into The Wild Blue Yonder" is missing from list. To get harmonisation, last episode of Series#15 "Alladin Gets on Your Wick", needs to be Episode#128 (increment by four). Frankmoyes ( talk) 16:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Should it not be recorded that final episode of Series#28 is Smiler's last appearance. Stephen Lewis article notes he left in 2007 due to ill health. Frankmoyes ( talk) 16:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)