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BetacommandBot ( talk) 21:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Technically, since nothing on this page is referenced, we can "merge all referenced information" on this page by simply turning it into a redirect. If you want to add information to Wikipedia, the burden is on you to provide decent sources. If you fail to do that, your information will be removed, even if it happens to be correct. It isn't the job of others to figure out whether your information is correct. It is up to you to establish as much. -- dab (𒁳) 12:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
The section headings in this list seem rather arbitrary. They define neither useful geographical regions, nor groups of like traditions. Unless anyone objects, I'm proposing to re-group the entries based on similarity of tradition. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 13:54, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Actually, that turns out to be quite difficult as too many countries have multiple traditions. Probably the best approach will be to set out things in tabular form. I'll have a go over the next few days. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 18:01, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Now done. Should be easier to read and to maintain, but still needs sources. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 18:21, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
サンタクロース has no any relation to Japan, it's just transliteration of Santa Claus from English. It's used used only for marketing and not related to usual people culture. Uncle Chimney is just some totally unknown nonsense. That "Bowler" is absolutely unreliable reference. -- Rambalac ( talk) 18:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
There is no any "New Year Boy" in Russia, it's just some nonsense. -- Rambalac ( talk) 18:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
The English tradition having "Santa Claus" deliver Christmas gifts seems to be behind the conflation his addition to this list in Catholic nations, notably Netherlands, Belgium and parts of Germany. This has nothing to do with Christmas but Saint Nicholas' feast day. @ MichaelMaggs: This is why I reverted you. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 18:34, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Hello! I don't plan on changing the article myself, but I wanted to point this out for anyone so inclined. This article is interesting, but currently I'm hesitant to trust that it provides WP:NPOV.
Gerry Bowler, the author/historian cited throughout this article, is a very unreliable source due to his WP:FRINGE claims and blatant religious biases prevalent in his work. For an example, I read this interview [1] regarding the "War on Christmas". A couple choice quotes:
(my apologies for the blocks of text above) -- Pythagimedes ( talk) 01:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
While is true that Father Christmas is celebrated, Three Wise Men (Spain) and Cagatío (Catalonia) are both more popular and more traditional (Father Christmas has less than 100 years of usage in Spain)
A striped pattern indicating the three in Catalonia, and two (Father Christmas and Three Wise Men) in Spain will be way more appropiate AmunJazz ( talk) 09:31, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
Similairly and as the table states the map for Slovenia should also show Saint Nicholas not only Father Frost and "Christmas Man". As in Spain the last tradition is not that old. But the article adequatly points to conflation of different traditions in recent years. 2001:1470:EEEE:BEDA:CA36:83FD:52D1:FA22 ( talk) 22:58, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
From this Article: "the Christ Child traditions promoted by Martin Luther[1] ". From wikis article on "Christkind": ) "Promulgated by Martin Luther at the Protestant Reformation in 16th–17th-century Europe, many Protestants adopted this gift bringer, the Christ Child or Christkindl, and the date of giving gifts changed from December 6 to Christmas Eve."
Later in this Article the entry for Germany in the table: Weihnachtsmann[30] (Christmas Man) in Protestant areas. Christkind[30] (Christ Child) in Catholic areas.
The contradiciton seems obvisous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:F0:AF49:8B00:2D2D:ED10:E51D:BC96 ( talk) 11:08, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
I added the Père Janvier (Father January) to this list and it was reverted by User:Walter Görlitz because "a bit late to be a Christmas gift-bringer". But :
- the title of this article is "List of Christmas and winter gift-bringers by country"
- the Père Janvier perfectly fits into the definition of the winter gift-bringing old man
- the Père Janvier is one of the many French local gift-bringers who existed or still exist and merged into the syncretic Père Noël (Father Christmas) during the 19th century ; while many of them can retrospectively be seen as local variants of the Père Noël, the Père Janvier is, when still celebrated (in some families in Burgundy and Nivernais, especially in the Morvan mountains), generally regarded as a different character because contrary to many of these old gift-bringers, he comes during the night 31 December/1 January
- in France, New Year's Day is fully part of the "Christmas cycle"/Christmastide ("la période de Noël" or "le temps de Noël"), which begins on the Advent Sunday (even earlier in some regions, on St Martin's Day, 10 or 11 November) and ends with Candlemas (2 February)
- due to the previous fact, the Père Janvier is listed among the Christmas gift-bringers in the Manuel de folklore français by Arnold van Gennep
- the intro of the article mentions that "Not all gift-bringers were or are specifically focused on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day: other common customs are 6 December (St Nicholas), 1 January, New Year (St Basil, or secular), and 6 January, Epiphany (Three Kings).".
Thanks for your reading,
-- CampagnardDeter ( talk) 10:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
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Image:DutchSinterklaas2005.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 21:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Technically, since nothing on this page is referenced, we can "merge all referenced information" on this page by simply turning it into a redirect. If you want to add information to Wikipedia, the burden is on you to provide decent sources. If you fail to do that, your information will be removed, even if it happens to be correct. It isn't the job of others to figure out whether your information is correct. It is up to you to establish as much. -- dab (𒁳) 12:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
The section headings in this list seem rather arbitrary. They define neither useful geographical regions, nor groups of like traditions. Unless anyone objects, I'm proposing to re-group the entries based on similarity of tradition. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 13:54, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Actually, that turns out to be quite difficult as too many countries have multiple traditions. Probably the best approach will be to set out things in tabular form. I'll have a go over the next few days. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 18:01, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Now done. Should be easier to read and to maintain, but still needs sources. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 18:21, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
サンタクロース has no any relation to Japan, it's just transliteration of Santa Claus from English. It's used used only for marketing and not related to usual people culture. Uncle Chimney is just some totally unknown nonsense. That "Bowler" is absolutely unreliable reference. -- Rambalac ( talk) 18:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
There is no any "New Year Boy" in Russia, it's just some nonsense. -- Rambalac ( talk) 18:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
The English tradition having "Santa Claus" deliver Christmas gifts seems to be behind the conflation his addition to this list in Catholic nations, notably Netherlands, Belgium and parts of Germany. This has nothing to do with Christmas but Saint Nicholas' feast day. @ MichaelMaggs: This is why I reverted you. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 18:34, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Hello! I don't plan on changing the article myself, but I wanted to point this out for anyone so inclined. This article is interesting, but currently I'm hesitant to trust that it provides WP:NPOV.
Gerry Bowler, the author/historian cited throughout this article, is a very unreliable source due to his WP:FRINGE claims and blatant religious biases prevalent in his work. For an example, I read this interview [1] regarding the "War on Christmas". A couple choice quotes:
(my apologies for the blocks of text above) -- Pythagimedes ( talk) 01:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
While is true that Father Christmas is celebrated, Three Wise Men (Spain) and Cagatío (Catalonia) are both more popular and more traditional (Father Christmas has less than 100 years of usage in Spain)
A striped pattern indicating the three in Catalonia, and two (Father Christmas and Three Wise Men) in Spain will be way more appropiate AmunJazz ( talk) 09:31, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
Similairly and as the table states the map for Slovenia should also show Saint Nicholas not only Father Frost and "Christmas Man". As in Spain the last tradition is not that old. But the article adequatly points to conflation of different traditions in recent years. 2001:1470:EEEE:BEDA:CA36:83FD:52D1:FA22 ( talk) 22:58, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
From this Article: "the Christ Child traditions promoted by Martin Luther[1] ". From wikis article on "Christkind": ) "Promulgated by Martin Luther at the Protestant Reformation in 16th–17th-century Europe, many Protestants adopted this gift bringer, the Christ Child or Christkindl, and the date of giving gifts changed from December 6 to Christmas Eve."
Later in this Article the entry for Germany in the table: Weihnachtsmann[30] (Christmas Man) in Protestant areas. Christkind[30] (Christ Child) in Catholic areas.
The contradiciton seems obvisous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:F0:AF49:8B00:2D2D:ED10:E51D:BC96 ( talk) 11:08, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
I added the Père Janvier (Father January) to this list and it was reverted by User:Walter Görlitz because "a bit late to be a Christmas gift-bringer". But :
- the title of this article is "List of Christmas and winter gift-bringers by country"
- the Père Janvier perfectly fits into the definition of the winter gift-bringing old man
- the Père Janvier is one of the many French local gift-bringers who existed or still exist and merged into the syncretic Père Noël (Father Christmas) during the 19th century ; while many of them can retrospectively be seen as local variants of the Père Noël, the Père Janvier is, when still celebrated (in some families in Burgundy and Nivernais, especially in the Morvan mountains), generally regarded as a different character because contrary to many of these old gift-bringers, he comes during the night 31 December/1 January
- in France, New Year's Day is fully part of the "Christmas cycle"/Christmastide ("la période de Noël" or "le temps de Noël"), which begins on the Advent Sunday (even earlier in some regions, on St Martin's Day, 10 or 11 November) and ends with Candlemas (2 February)
- due to the previous fact, the Père Janvier is listed among the Christmas gift-bringers in the Manuel de folklore français by Arnold van Gennep
- the intro of the article mentions that "Not all gift-bringers were or are specifically focused on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day: other common customs are 6 December (St Nicholas), 1 January, New Year (St Basil, or secular), and 6 January, Epiphany (Three Kings).".
Thanks for your reading,
-- CampagnardDeter ( talk) 10:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)