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I have added the finite element method to the list of modern Chinese discoveries, but I'm not sure whether it belongs here. FEM was developed in China by Feng Kang, and in the West, independently of each other but at around the same time. -- jftsang 19:50, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Two basic problems. One is the age of the sources. I see that one source is 50 years old. Even some of the material from Joseph Needham and his Science and Civilization project is obsolete. And in particular Robert Temple is not a reliable source. "In a review of The Genius of China Peter Golas wrote that " Temple is not very good at qualifying. He seizes with, unabashed enthusiasm on any Chinese advance that might be seen to prefigure a later development in the west. In doing so, he all too often overstates or misstates the facts." Golas also notes that Temple relies almost exclusively on the work of Joseph Needham and the Science and Civilisation in China, ignoring later research which has made some of the texts Temple used obsolete. [1] In the Beijing Review Needham himself criticized the book writing that it had "some mistakes ... and various statements that I would like to have seen expressed rather differently". [2]" Doug Weller talk 13:30, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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See and comment here. tl;dr Absolutely, no question, improve sourcing and keep everything factual to the best knowledge of current scholarship. On the other hand, we absolutely should be (briefly) mentioning the traditional legends concerning early inventions. They're actually central to Chinese culture and shouldn't be impossible for WP:READERs to get to from here. — LlywelynII 15:04, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
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I have added the finite element method to the list of modern Chinese discoveries, but I'm not sure whether it belongs here. FEM was developed in China by Feng Kang, and in the West, independently of each other but at around the same time. -- jftsang 19:50, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Two basic problems. One is the age of the sources. I see that one source is 50 years old. Even some of the material from Joseph Needham and his Science and Civilization project is obsolete. And in particular Robert Temple is not a reliable source. "In a review of The Genius of China Peter Golas wrote that " Temple is not very good at qualifying. He seizes with, unabashed enthusiasm on any Chinese advance that might be seen to prefigure a later development in the west. In doing so, he all too often overstates or misstates the facts." Golas also notes that Temple relies almost exclusively on the work of Joseph Needham and the Science and Civilisation in China, ignoring later research which has made some of the texts Temple used obsolete. [1] In the Beijing Review Needham himself criticized the book writing that it had "some mistakes ... and various statements that I would like to have seen expressed rather differently". [2]" Doug Weller talk 13:30, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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See and comment here. tl;dr Absolutely, no question, improve sourcing and keep everything factual to the best knowledge of current scholarship. On the other hand, we absolutely should be (briefly) mentioning the traditional legends concerning early inventions. They're actually central to Chinese culture and shouldn't be impossible for WP:READERs to get to from here. — LlywelynII 15:04, 25 December 2022 (UTC)