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I am uncertain if this is the correct place for this or not. I have owned the fashion related site http://www.porcelain-beauty.com (also: http://www.porcelainbeauty.com) for almost two years. I have three subdomains for it, each dedicated to neatly organized photo archives and additional information on three different established models. Lily Cole, Heather Marks, and Tiiu Kuik. I also own the domains Lily-Cole.com, Heather-Marks.com, and Tiiu-Kuik.com which seamlessly forward to the subdomains of the main site. My Lily Cole subdomain was listed as a an external link for her page on here, but has since been removed. I assure you that my site is not a links page, does not contain advertisments, I never have and never will attempt to profit off of it, nor do I spam people or have pop-ups. I have one page (out of many) of links located at the bottom of my navigation. These are links to fashion sites that I enjoy, that I thought other people might like to. I never add links to that page that aren't sites I actually visit, nor do I push people to visit them.
Basically I wanted to know if my site: http://www.lily-cole.com (Also found at: http://www.porcelain-beauty.com/lilycole) could be added as an external link to the Lily Cole page on this site?
Thank you. Amara
Sorry, my last edit was not intended to be marked as minor - I meant to hit "watch" but hit "minor edit" by mistake. That's what I get for editing Wikipedia before I have my morning coffee.
I have requested citations because the information here conflicts with the information about Lily Cole in the size zero article. Neitherday ( talk) 15:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Should there be some sort of uniformity in the footnote system in this article. I used this but that's clearly not what everyone has done. What action should be taken?-- Cardinal Allen ( talk) 00:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Curious about the blurb saying she supports "Western Shoshone an environmental organization." I realize it's just taken straight from the Thefrisky.com article; the article is wrong though, at least on the org's name. There is no organization called Western Shoshone. There is a nation of indigenous people who are known as the Western Shoshone [Newe]; and there is a group called the Western Shoshone Defense Project [www.wsdp.org], which I'm assuming is the title intended. That being said, I worked for them this past summer and never heard of Lily Cole or her supposed support or involvement with them. It'd be interesting to find out how exactly she has been supportive of the Western Shoshone people through the Western Shoshone Defense Project. 110.34.0.242 ( talk) 09:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
33.5B? You must be joking. 30 or 32 AA, I'd say. 80.41.6.203 18:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
The same about her height. And yes, it's 33.5B. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonynonymous ( talk • contribs) 20:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
She has really large breasts for a model - I would have said a C cup actually - watch the river boat scene in the Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus, or her Pirelli calendar shoot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.195.118.23 ( talk) 18:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Concerning the Pictorial for the French Playboy, I think there is something that might be wroth clarifying. There is no topless or frontal nude of Lily Cole in this particular pictorial. The theme ressembles the early Playboy issues of 50s and 60s, where breasts and genetalia or pubes were unlikely to be seen. As you can see by the pictures in this site, they look no more provocative than an essay for FHM or similar publications -- Pinnecco ( talk) 00:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Just dropping vague critical tags on the article [1] without following up with either discussion or editing, is not helpful towards improving the article. Especially in the case of such ill-defined tags such as these. So I am removing them. For example, just what material is allegedly 'not appropriate for an encyclopedia'? Dlabtot ( talk) 17:45, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
What was Lily Cole's birth date?
According to New York Magazine, Lily Cole was born on May 19, 1988. http://nymag.com/fashion/models/lcole/lilycole/
According to Fashion Model Directory, Lily Cole was born on May 19, 1988. http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/models/Lily_Cole/
According to IMDB, Lily Cole was born on May 19, 1988. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2178959/
In fact, no source gives a different birth date. Stated a different way, no source that provides a birth date for Lily Cole provides any date other than May 19, 1988. Nevertheless, one editor has insisted on removing this date from the article. What should the article state regarding Lily Cole's birth date? Dlabtot ( talk) 21:32, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
"for all we know... the followup tweets were intended jokingly". Oh, ok. How about no? For all I know, fashionmodeldirectory, that bastion of accurate information, was only jokingly printing her date as May 1988. For all I know, all the other "sources" you use were only joking. Heck, that's pretty plausible, since they all got it wrong. No, we are not using IMDB as a source for her birthdate (obviously), your beloved policies even prohibit its use because it is not reliable. IMDB copies us, we don't copy them. Fashionmodeldirectory? Why would this site be reliable? Large databases of names are almost never reliable. And of course, The Observer, the only actual newspaper source in this conversation, is left out by you, as per WP:24 dot makes up nonsense to dismiss obviously reliable sources and keep accurate information out of articles for no apparent reason. Let me make this real simple. Lily Cole is the most reliable source for her own birth date. The only better source is a birth record. According to you, we can't use birth records. No problem. So we'll use Cole as a source instead. Anyone with eyes can see that she replied affirmatively to it being her birthday. If that was a "joke", you can dismiss anything anyone ever says anywhere as a joke, and who's to stop you. End of conversation. Go away. All Hallow's Wraith ( talk) 16:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Is this the birthday celebration you speak of? I probably should address it. The Daily Mail, unlike the newspapers I mentioned before, is a tabloid, not a reliable source, and is generally guilty of swiping information from Wikipedia and the IMDB, along with just making it up. They see Cole out at a party, they check one of the sites and see that they list her birthday as May 19, and they write that she "celebrated her 23rd birthday". How do they know that she did? She was just at a Vanity Fair and Gucci party at Cannes - no evidence anywhere in the pictures or elsewhere that anyone there was celebrating her birthday, least of all Cole herself. That story is about as notable and reliable as " Could this be the next Mrs Cruise? 'Devout Scientologist' Yolanda Pecoraro is said to be the 'perfect match' for Tom" and " Date night with Daddy: Suri Cruise looks shattered after reuniting with Tom and spending the entire day with him". Those are two of their stories of the moment. All Hallow's Wraith ( talk) 15:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
The article needs a few tweaks to properly comply with the GA criteria. Since it is currently listed as GA, I request someone make the fixes ASAP.
Thanks, ThaddeusB ( talk) 05:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Looking under the section for the nude pictorials I noticed "with calls for Cole to be dropped from her contract with British high street chain Marks and Spencer", looking at the cites given they don't actually identify anyone who called for that except one spokesman for a marginal fundementalist group in the UK, Christian Voice. The phrasing above may give the impression of undue weight to merely a statement from such a group, and also the vagueness could be seen as weasel wording. 121.73.221.187 ( talk) 08:53, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of her latest project (Impossible.com) on her page? 95.172.231.160 ( talk) 11:16, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Why is this article using posts by Cole on Twitter (!?!?!?) as a source for her date of birth? This is not in line with WP:PSTS. Toccata quarta ( talk) 18:43, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Okay. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2178959/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 says that she was born on May 19, 1988. How do you know your source is right, if there isn't an agreement as to when her bday is? Aaron Saltzer ( talk) 17:59, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I just removed several Dailymail references and one IMDb reference as those are both not reliable sources. There are also several sources that are not formatted properly. I would suggest fixing these, otherwise I will take it to get reviewed as it doesn't meet GA status. LADY LOTUS • TALK 19:02, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
It needs a source. Dlabtot ( talk) 19:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
According to www.imdb.com, she was born on May 19, 1988. How do you know your source is reliable? Aaron Saltzer ( talk) 15:34, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm Elvie Maxwell and I work with Lily Cole. I've been through the page and found some things that are out of date or inaccurate. I'm not sure of all the rules of Wikipedia but I know that to avoid even the appearance of impropriety I should not edit the page myself.
Regarding the page, there are a couple of factual inaccuracies but the main issue is that its out of date - references tend to be to projects several years ago with little information on her work in between (social business, wild rubber, impossible, recent films/plays). Photos also quite old (and weird!)
Out of date on modeling:
"She has a cosmetics contract with beauty brand Rimmel London < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimmel> and can be seen in TV and print advertising as part of her work with them.” and later "Cole has been modelling for cosmetics company Rimmel London < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimmel> since October 2009"
But this contract finished several years ago. The easy fix is to change it to say 'had' and 'could',
Factual inaccuracies about acting:
"After several minor acting roles, starting with /St Trinian’s
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Trinian%27s_(film)> /in 2007,”
(actually she only did one minor role in a feature length film - St Trinians - prior to Dr Parnassus)
"Released in 2012, Cole will have a part in Mary Harron < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Harron>'s /The Moth Diaries/.^[49] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-LA_Times-49>”
This should be past tense, the film has been released.
Since then Lily has shot:
(more info on: imdb)
"It was reported in October 2009 that Cole would make her stage debut at
the Old Vic Theatre <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Vic> in
London's West End <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_End_of_London> at
the theatre's annual "24 Hour Plays" held in November, but "scheduling
commitments" forced her to pull out.^[57]
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-on_with_the_show-57>
Cole ultimately made her stage début at the ADC Theatre in Cambridge
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge>, as Nina in a student
production of /The Seagull
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seagull>/.^[58]
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-58>"
This is out of date as Lily performed in the Old Vic Theatre 24 hour
plays twice, in 2011 and 2013.
She also did a play [The Last Days of Troy by Simon Armitage] at the Royal Exchange theatre and Shakespeare’s Globe theatre May-June 2014 [ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/theatre-reviews/10833731/The-Last-Days-of-Troy-Manchester-Royal-Exchange-review-Lily-Cole-keeps-you-fascinated.html Telegraph review] [ http://www.theguardian.com/stage/2014/may/08/simon-armitage-the-last-days-of-troy-lily-cole-homer Guardian review]
CHARITY WORK "Cole supports a variety of humanitarian and environmental causes..."
To this section there are several notes to be made:
but it isn't recent now.
“Lily Cole is the founder of socially networked < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking> gift economy < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy> website, impossible.com < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible.com>; a website that promotes requests for and offering of gifts and assistance.^[69] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-69>
Great this addition has been made, but “charity work” is probably not the right place for it. I would suggest creation a section titled either 'social business' or 'entrepreneurship' to include Lily's much more important activities in that space, including co-founding thenorthcircular.com < http://thenorthcircular.com/> in 2009, wildrubber.com < http://wildrubber.com/> in 2014 as a development of Sky Rainforest Rescue campaign and co-bought ClaireDeRouenbooks.com < http://clairederouenbooks.com/> in 2012
And Impossible itself is of course a social business, not a charity.
ENVIRONMENTAL CAMPAIGNING
"Cole is an ally for Western Shoshone < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Shoshone>, an environmental group which specializes in work to halt gold and diamond mining, which is alleged to displace indigenous peoples worldwide and alleged to create excessive amounts of mining waste and toxins.^[70] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-70> ^[71] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-Crousillat-71> “
Lily has never even heard of Western Shoshone.
“...introduced the range to various prestigious retailers including Dover Street Market < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Street_Market>, London, where it is still being sold.^[72] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-72> “
The jewelry is no longer being sold there.
" from which 5% of all profits, and all of Cole's, are donated to the Environmental Justice Foundation.^[77] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-north_circular-77> “
As they haven’t made any profit yet so this isn’t exactly true. Probably best to change this to 'will be donated'.
The photos very out of date too. We will upload some newer ones under a creative commons license and notify you here when they are available for review.
Elviemaxwell ( talk) 19:13, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you ! I agree there are many sources saying that Lily is associated with Western Shoshone, however I have struggled to find out exactly who/what they are. I also question how credible 'Frisky' and 'Glam' are. The two sources you quote are in fact using an identical story published in two different places! With regards to Lily making a public statement, would it be acceptable for her to do this via twitter or another social media? Also we would like to give the link to Lily's personal website (lilycole.com). Can this be added to external links? And where should I upload alternative pictures? Thank you for your help. Elviemaxwell ( talk) 17:32, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Wiki people, this is Elvie Maxwell again. Lily has now tweeted that she has no relationship to the western shoshone organisation: https://twitter.com/lilycole/status/628604475083780096
Regarding her measurements, she no longer works as a model so is this really appropriate content? Additionally they are wildly and quite unhealthily inaccurate.
I have images to upload which have a creative commons licence, what do i do in detail? thanks, Elvie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.89.34.148 ( talk) 12:37, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Please read up on WP:BLPNAME before contantly adding the name of the child. It adds nothing to the article - wikipedia is not an offshoot of Heat or Hello - and as stated in BLPNAME - "The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons. The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced." My emphasis. Please comment here before re-adding. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 17:09, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
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Hello, I work for Lily Cole and would like to suggest that we include her stage acting on her wikipedia page. I have been told in the past not to make edits myself as it could be seen as a conflict of interest. She was in The Old Vic’s 24 Hour Plays in November 2011 and again in November 2013. She also starred in The Philanthropist at the Trafalgar Studios last year. There are many articles online that can be used to support these - would you like me to provide some links?
It also inaccurately says that Lily is still an ambassador for Global Angels. We would like to correct this as it is being repeated in articles about Lily. She is no longer an ambassador and they have changed their website to show this for us - https://globalangels.org/angels/coutts/
Please let me know if there is anything else I should do - I am not very familiar with wikipedia! Thanks
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I am uncertain if this is the correct place for this or not. I have owned the fashion related site http://www.porcelain-beauty.com (also: http://www.porcelainbeauty.com) for almost two years. I have three subdomains for it, each dedicated to neatly organized photo archives and additional information on three different established models. Lily Cole, Heather Marks, and Tiiu Kuik. I also own the domains Lily-Cole.com, Heather-Marks.com, and Tiiu-Kuik.com which seamlessly forward to the subdomains of the main site. My Lily Cole subdomain was listed as a an external link for her page on here, but has since been removed. I assure you that my site is not a links page, does not contain advertisments, I never have and never will attempt to profit off of it, nor do I spam people or have pop-ups. I have one page (out of many) of links located at the bottom of my navigation. These are links to fashion sites that I enjoy, that I thought other people might like to. I never add links to that page that aren't sites I actually visit, nor do I push people to visit them.
Basically I wanted to know if my site: http://www.lily-cole.com (Also found at: http://www.porcelain-beauty.com/lilycole) could be added as an external link to the Lily Cole page on this site?
Thank you. Amara
Sorry, my last edit was not intended to be marked as minor - I meant to hit "watch" but hit "minor edit" by mistake. That's what I get for editing Wikipedia before I have my morning coffee.
I have requested citations because the information here conflicts with the information about Lily Cole in the size zero article. Neitherday ( talk) 15:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Should there be some sort of uniformity in the footnote system in this article. I used this but that's clearly not what everyone has done. What action should be taken?-- Cardinal Allen ( talk) 00:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Curious about the blurb saying she supports "Western Shoshone an environmental organization." I realize it's just taken straight from the Thefrisky.com article; the article is wrong though, at least on the org's name. There is no organization called Western Shoshone. There is a nation of indigenous people who are known as the Western Shoshone [Newe]; and there is a group called the Western Shoshone Defense Project [www.wsdp.org], which I'm assuming is the title intended. That being said, I worked for them this past summer and never heard of Lily Cole or her supposed support or involvement with them. It'd be interesting to find out how exactly she has been supportive of the Western Shoshone people through the Western Shoshone Defense Project. 110.34.0.242 ( talk) 09:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
33.5B? You must be joking. 30 or 32 AA, I'd say. 80.41.6.203 18:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
The same about her height. And yes, it's 33.5B. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonynonymous ( talk • contribs) 20:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
She has really large breasts for a model - I would have said a C cup actually - watch the river boat scene in the Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus, or her Pirelli calendar shoot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.195.118.23 ( talk) 18:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Concerning the Pictorial for the French Playboy, I think there is something that might be wroth clarifying. There is no topless or frontal nude of Lily Cole in this particular pictorial. The theme ressembles the early Playboy issues of 50s and 60s, where breasts and genetalia or pubes were unlikely to be seen. As you can see by the pictures in this site, they look no more provocative than an essay for FHM or similar publications -- Pinnecco ( talk) 00:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Just dropping vague critical tags on the article [1] without following up with either discussion or editing, is not helpful towards improving the article. Especially in the case of such ill-defined tags such as these. So I am removing them. For example, just what material is allegedly 'not appropriate for an encyclopedia'? Dlabtot ( talk) 17:45, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
What was Lily Cole's birth date?
According to New York Magazine, Lily Cole was born on May 19, 1988. http://nymag.com/fashion/models/lcole/lilycole/
According to Fashion Model Directory, Lily Cole was born on May 19, 1988. http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/models/Lily_Cole/
According to IMDB, Lily Cole was born on May 19, 1988. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2178959/
In fact, no source gives a different birth date. Stated a different way, no source that provides a birth date for Lily Cole provides any date other than May 19, 1988. Nevertheless, one editor has insisted on removing this date from the article. What should the article state regarding Lily Cole's birth date? Dlabtot ( talk) 21:32, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
"for all we know... the followup tweets were intended jokingly". Oh, ok. How about no? For all I know, fashionmodeldirectory, that bastion of accurate information, was only jokingly printing her date as May 1988. For all I know, all the other "sources" you use were only joking. Heck, that's pretty plausible, since they all got it wrong. No, we are not using IMDB as a source for her birthdate (obviously), your beloved policies even prohibit its use because it is not reliable. IMDB copies us, we don't copy them. Fashionmodeldirectory? Why would this site be reliable? Large databases of names are almost never reliable. And of course, The Observer, the only actual newspaper source in this conversation, is left out by you, as per WP:24 dot makes up nonsense to dismiss obviously reliable sources and keep accurate information out of articles for no apparent reason. Let me make this real simple. Lily Cole is the most reliable source for her own birth date. The only better source is a birth record. According to you, we can't use birth records. No problem. So we'll use Cole as a source instead. Anyone with eyes can see that she replied affirmatively to it being her birthday. If that was a "joke", you can dismiss anything anyone ever says anywhere as a joke, and who's to stop you. End of conversation. Go away. All Hallow's Wraith ( talk) 16:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Is this the birthday celebration you speak of? I probably should address it. The Daily Mail, unlike the newspapers I mentioned before, is a tabloid, not a reliable source, and is generally guilty of swiping information from Wikipedia and the IMDB, along with just making it up. They see Cole out at a party, they check one of the sites and see that they list her birthday as May 19, and they write that she "celebrated her 23rd birthday". How do they know that she did? She was just at a Vanity Fair and Gucci party at Cannes - no evidence anywhere in the pictures or elsewhere that anyone there was celebrating her birthday, least of all Cole herself. That story is about as notable and reliable as " Could this be the next Mrs Cruise? 'Devout Scientologist' Yolanda Pecoraro is said to be the 'perfect match' for Tom" and " Date night with Daddy: Suri Cruise looks shattered after reuniting with Tom and spending the entire day with him". Those are two of their stories of the moment. All Hallow's Wraith ( talk) 15:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
The article needs a few tweaks to properly comply with the GA criteria. Since it is currently listed as GA, I request someone make the fixes ASAP.
Thanks, ThaddeusB ( talk) 05:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Looking under the section for the nude pictorials I noticed "with calls for Cole to be dropped from her contract with British high street chain Marks and Spencer", looking at the cites given they don't actually identify anyone who called for that except one spokesman for a marginal fundementalist group in the UK, Christian Voice. The phrasing above may give the impression of undue weight to merely a statement from such a group, and also the vagueness could be seen as weasel wording. 121.73.221.187 ( talk) 08:53, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of her latest project (Impossible.com) on her page? 95.172.231.160 ( talk) 11:16, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Why is this article using posts by Cole on Twitter (!?!?!?) as a source for her date of birth? This is not in line with WP:PSTS. Toccata quarta ( talk) 18:43, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Okay. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2178959/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 says that she was born on May 19, 1988. How do you know your source is right, if there isn't an agreement as to when her bday is? Aaron Saltzer ( talk) 17:59, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I just removed several Dailymail references and one IMDb reference as those are both not reliable sources. There are also several sources that are not formatted properly. I would suggest fixing these, otherwise I will take it to get reviewed as it doesn't meet GA status. LADY LOTUS • TALK 19:02, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
It needs a source. Dlabtot ( talk) 19:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
According to www.imdb.com, she was born on May 19, 1988. How do you know your source is reliable? Aaron Saltzer ( talk) 15:34, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm Elvie Maxwell and I work with Lily Cole. I've been through the page and found some things that are out of date or inaccurate. I'm not sure of all the rules of Wikipedia but I know that to avoid even the appearance of impropriety I should not edit the page myself.
Regarding the page, there are a couple of factual inaccuracies but the main issue is that its out of date - references tend to be to projects several years ago with little information on her work in between (social business, wild rubber, impossible, recent films/plays). Photos also quite old (and weird!)
Out of date on modeling:
"She has a cosmetics contract with beauty brand Rimmel London < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimmel> and can be seen in TV and print advertising as part of her work with them.” and later "Cole has been modelling for cosmetics company Rimmel London < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimmel> since October 2009"
But this contract finished several years ago. The easy fix is to change it to say 'had' and 'could',
Factual inaccuracies about acting:
"After several minor acting roles, starting with /St Trinian’s
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Trinian%27s_(film)> /in 2007,”
(actually she only did one minor role in a feature length film - St Trinians - prior to Dr Parnassus)
"Released in 2012, Cole will have a part in Mary Harron < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Harron>'s /The Moth Diaries/.^[49] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-LA_Times-49>”
This should be past tense, the film has been released.
Since then Lily has shot:
(more info on: imdb)
"It was reported in October 2009 that Cole would make her stage debut at
the Old Vic Theatre <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Vic> in
London's West End <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_End_of_London> at
the theatre's annual "24 Hour Plays" held in November, but "scheduling
commitments" forced her to pull out.^[57]
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-on_with_the_show-57>
Cole ultimately made her stage début at the ADC Theatre in Cambridge
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge>, as Nina in a student
production of /The Seagull
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seagull>/.^[58]
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-58>"
This is out of date as Lily performed in the Old Vic Theatre 24 hour
plays twice, in 2011 and 2013.
She also did a play [The Last Days of Troy by Simon Armitage] at the Royal Exchange theatre and Shakespeare’s Globe theatre May-June 2014 [ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/theatre-reviews/10833731/The-Last-Days-of-Troy-Manchester-Royal-Exchange-review-Lily-Cole-keeps-you-fascinated.html Telegraph review] [ http://www.theguardian.com/stage/2014/may/08/simon-armitage-the-last-days-of-troy-lily-cole-homer Guardian review]
CHARITY WORK "Cole supports a variety of humanitarian and environmental causes..."
To this section there are several notes to be made:
but it isn't recent now.
“Lily Cole is the founder of socially networked < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking> gift economy < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy> website, impossible.com < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible.com>; a website that promotes requests for and offering of gifts and assistance.^[69] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-69>
Great this addition has been made, but “charity work” is probably not the right place for it. I would suggest creation a section titled either 'social business' or 'entrepreneurship' to include Lily's much more important activities in that space, including co-founding thenorthcircular.com < http://thenorthcircular.com/> in 2009, wildrubber.com < http://wildrubber.com/> in 2014 as a development of Sky Rainforest Rescue campaign and co-bought ClaireDeRouenbooks.com < http://clairederouenbooks.com/> in 2012
And Impossible itself is of course a social business, not a charity.
ENVIRONMENTAL CAMPAIGNING
"Cole is an ally for Western Shoshone < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Shoshone>, an environmental group which specializes in work to halt gold and diamond mining, which is alleged to displace indigenous peoples worldwide and alleged to create excessive amounts of mining waste and toxins.^[70] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-70> ^[71] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-Crousillat-71> “
Lily has never even heard of Western Shoshone.
“...introduced the range to various prestigious retailers including Dover Street Market < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Street_Market>, London, where it is still being sold.^[72] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-72> “
The jewelry is no longer being sold there.
" from which 5% of all profits, and all of Cole's, are donated to the Environmental Justice Foundation.^[77] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Cole#cite_note-north_circular-77> “
As they haven’t made any profit yet so this isn’t exactly true. Probably best to change this to 'will be donated'.
The photos very out of date too. We will upload some newer ones under a creative commons license and notify you here when they are available for review.
Elviemaxwell ( talk) 19:13, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you ! I agree there are many sources saying that Lily is associated with Western Shoshone, however I have struggled to find out exactly who/what they are. I also question how credible 'Frisky' and 'Glam' are. The two sources you quote are in fact using an identical story published in two different places! With regards to Lily making a public statement, would it be acceptable for her to do this via twitter or another social media? Also we would like to give the link to Lily's personal website (lilycole.com). Can this be added to external links? And where should I upload alternative pictures? Thank you for your help. Elviemaxwell ( talk) 17:32, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Wiki people, this is Elvie Maxwell again. Lily has now tweeted that she has no relationship to the western shoshone organisation: https://twitter.com/lilycole/status/628604475083780096
Regarding her measurements, she no longer works as a model so is this really appropriate content? Additionally they are wildly and quite unhealthily inaccurate.
I have images to upload which have a creative commons licence, what do i do in detail? thanks, Elvie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.89.34.148 ( talk) 12:37, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Please read up on WP:BLPNAME before contantly adding the name of the child. It adds nothing to the article - wikipedia is not an offshoot of Heat or Hello - and as stated in BLPNAME - "The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons. The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced." My emphasis. Please comment here before re-adding. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 17:09, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
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Hello, I work for Lily Cole and would like to suggest that we include her stage acting on her wikipedia page. I have been told in the past not to make edits myself as it could be seen as a conflict of interest. She was in The Old Vic’s 24 Hour Plays in November 2011 and again in November 2013. She also starred in The Philanthropist at the Trafalgar Studios last year. There are many articles online that can be used to support these - would you like me to provide some links?
It also inaccurately says that Lily is still an ambassador for Global Angels. We would like to correct this as it is being repeated in articles about Lily. She is no longer an ambassador and they have changed their website to show this for us - https://globalangels.org/angels/coutts/
Please let me know if there is anything else I should do - I am not very familiar with wikipedia! Thanks