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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ssault ( talk • contribs) 20:33, 18 March 2007.
Another thing, why is it important that this is the first episode with lice as important characters. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Ssmeelink (
talk •
contribs) 21:14, 21 March 2007.
I'm pretty sure that the soap-in-socks is a reference to a blanket party from I believe Full Metal Jacket. I'm not sure about this though. Of course, no blanket was used in the ep Nate1152 04:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Why do some episodes have the stupid "No trivia" tag and others don't? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.250.75.23 ( talk) 20:04, 22 March 2007
I'm pretty sure that the Help me, Help me is a reference to Robocop.I've added it for 3 times now and it keeps being ereased. [[User:Sebastiaanj]
The "blanket party" is something common to military lore and recruit training for years. No reason to single out FMJ as the source of that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.246.149.92 ( talk) 07:04, 25 March 2007
The episode's title is more likely to be a reference to The Ice Capades than a reference to the word poopscapade(which is probably also a reference to ice capades) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.81.27.7 ( talk) 16:49, 21 March 2007
The episode title is most likely a reference to 'The Ice Capades', but a poopscapade is nothing more than a combination of the word Escapade and the word poop. NeoApocalypse 07:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
DO NOT COPY TEXT FROM OTHER WEBSITES! Irish rover 01:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
who. u ppl work reel fast. 10 minutes ago this page was practically blank I am Paranoid 02:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Add soemthing about the ending with Angelina Jolie. -- Xcrissxcrossx 02:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Aren't the "lice" in Angelina Jo Lee's crotch actually crabs? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ssmeelink ( talk • contribs) 21:25, 21 March 2007.
And add something about Al Gore and his film. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.127.5.37 ( talk) 21:26, 21 March 2007
I don't think Al Gore had anything to do with it. All of the environmental references were in light of Deep Ecology or Gaia Theory —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 148.61.208.29 ( talk) 22:27, 21 March 2007
Well, that's the worst episode since A Million Little Fibers. I thought it would be something about Britney Spears. The plot is not based on any cultural reference? That's weird. Lantios 03:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
It’s quite obvious that this episode is making fun of the "Day After Tomorrow". That is with the lice and the vice president of the lice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.80.25.72 ( talk) 03:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC).
I just changed the promo picture to an actual screen capture of the same scene as real pictures are obviously preferable to promotional pictures that were never in the actual episode. I took the screen capture myself. XVertigox 11:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Can we keep some of the references short and sweet (preferably with links.) If you are unsure about it, don't put it in. Also please keep in mind that not everyone is aware of previous SP episodes and references etc, so this information needs to be included. Gaijin84 16:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Firstly, there are several trivia facts that should be "may be a reference to" rather than "is a reference to." Secondly, there are some sloppy grammatical constructions, such as "When Cartman tell's..." Thirdly, the reference to the Gaia hypothesis is only partially true, as a true Gaia hypothesis would involve the lice working as part of the planetary organism, by definition. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.106.204.194 ( talk) 11:54, 22 March 2007
The "help me, help me" is definitely from THE FLY. Watch that movie and hear the line. It is same intonation and also from an insect. This is a well-known line that is almost stereotypical within Hollywood. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.246.149.92 ( talk) 07:20, 25 March 2007
Does anybody know why matt and trey have chosen angelina jolie to make fun of? are there any current references or something? thx. -- 85.181.79.101 20:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
... Why was it an ooze instead of a foam? Clyde sucks at washing his hair... How can you even avoid lathering like that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.72.21.221 ( talk) 16:43, 22 March 2007
Anything starting with the words "this is the (insert number) time that (event or person) has happend/appeared..." is unneeded. It can lead to things like "this is the 4th time that Cartman has said the word (some word)." Waste of space. Ssault 00:50, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
"In line with the Gaia hypothesis, the episode takes a shot at Vice President Dick Cheney, and his skepticism on global warming. The vice president even looked like Cheney." Whoever keeps deleting the lice vice presidents physical and behavioral resemblance to Dick Cheney, either stop doing it or state why it is not noteworthy. I'm getting sick of changing it back. There is no reason to delete this trivia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.212.252.173 ( talk) 21:43, 22 March 2007
Dude, it looks nothing like Dick Cheney. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.130.133.127 ( talk) 13:30, 23 March 2007
this is wikipedia, not a place for you to get your political aggression out, go yell at the White House.--
Ssault
12:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Wrong. It looked exactly like Cheney. The hair is a dead give away. Stop editing this page just because you're a Neo Conservative and censor everything that opposes your viewpoint. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.212.252.173 ( talk) 16:37, 23 March 2007
Wikipedia is not the place for speculation and invented facts. Saying it was Cheney is a statement based on your own view, not the view of fact. 66.212.252.173, this is not a political forum, nor is it a place for personal attacks.
--
Ssault
12:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm really surprised there isn't more discussion about global warming in this episode and I'm surprised no one more seems to think the VP was Dick Cheney. They spent time having the main louse explain how much they were changing the Earth and you could see them tearing down hair (natural resources) but there is no mention of it in the article. Also the VP shot the female louse in the face- how are more people not seeing this? Global warming has been in the news lately because of Al Gore and the oscars and all that and I think that that is the basis for this episode. SSault, I understand why you don't want this to be a polital forum, and I agree with you, but you can't keep political references off a page when the show so frequently gets political. Atheros1 12:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
--It is speculation. Unless you have citation stating that was the intention of the show and the creators, from the show or the creators, it is speculation, which is against Wikipedia guidelines and will be deleted. There is nothing political about it, this is not my personal thing, it is speculation. It is an extremely easy rule to fallow, and to break.--
Ssault
03:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
That was a rip of the day after tomorrow when he kept trying to warn the vice president. It had nothing to do with Dick Cheney. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.56.168.52 ( talk) 01:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Please stop adding useless information to this area. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.212.252.173 ( talk) 21:58, 22 March 2007
You mean like adding that Craig at the beginning of the Episode was told by the nurse he didn't have lice, and then at the end when Ms Garrison told the class they all had lice, Craig mentions "I thought I was the only one." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.51.41.72 ( talk) 13:39, 25 March 2007
The stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid trvia and culture references needs to stop...stuff like "frame 3553 of this episode seems similar to frame 4556 of such movie because they both use the color red" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ssault ( talk • contribs) 14:50, 23 March 2007.
Im curios to know if that image was an actuall screenshot from the tv broadcast or just a promotional image,because it seems too high resolution to be from the television broadcast,yet it has the distinctive look of an analog sighnal (not to mension the logo not usually not found in promotional images,like the screen of the previous episode) Rodrigue 13:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
never mind,I just read the trivia section 192.30.202.20 14:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
In my opinion, the world being conscious is a clear reference to the Gaia hypothesis, specifically the one used in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. However, both references were removed. In the FF movie, the Earth was reacting to the presence of the Phantoms who were harming it as a life form. Dr. Sid theorized that the Earth was actually alive and nobody believed him, with apocalyptic results. The concept of pointing a gun to the ground and shooting actually "killing the Earth" was mentioned in FF, and in South Park the Vice President actually DID shoot the planet (Craig) and Craig got hurt a little.
Thematically the concept is very similar to FF, which should be evident to anyone who has seen the movie. Even if FF is not mentioned, I say the Gaia hypothesis definitely should be. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.22.151.55 ( talk) 17:08, 24 March 2007
"The "lice" were referring to the Gaia hypothesis when they hypothesized whether their environment was a living organism and whether the harm they were doing to their environment would end up harming them." In the very least, this should remain in, as that is clearly what Matt and Try were referencing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.212.252.173 ( talk) 20:39, 24 March 2007
Agree. It is defenitely a Gaia reference. 71.246.149.92 13:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Definitely a Gaia reference. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.156.8.204 ( talk) 08:33, 28 March 2007
Definatly a Final Fantasy reference. Anyone who has actually seen it, can clearly see the reference in SP. bladez ( talk) 21:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
The similarities to both moves have been added and removed at least twice. I think there is sufficient reason to believe that this episode was a nod to at least one or both of these movies. Trey and Matt are both big fans of Pixar, as they said in the Cartmanland episode's commentary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.22.151.55 ( talk) 17:11, 24 March 2007
That's speculation, which will be removed. --
Ssault
00:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Many of the reference citations are speculative. This one seems reasonable. Many of the mannerisms of the insects (for instance the emphasis on romance) strongly mimic the previous "bug" movies. 71.246.149.92 13:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I never thought of that, but this might be a reference to all those bug cartoons. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bear199 ( talk • contribs) 14:23, 25 March 2007.
I've removed all but one of the images and all the original research. — An gr 16:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Meanwhile, from on top of Clyde's head, the episode follows a subplot involving one of Clyde's lice, a louse named Travis. ---I think this was the main plot. Any thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bear199 ( talk • contribs) 14:25, 25 March 2007.
I agree, The Lice story is clearly the mainplot in the episode 137.224.147.76 07:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
nope. remember, this is a south park episode, not some random bug stories. so it is a subplot —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.82.78.96 ( talk) 07:15, 28 March 2007
Hard to say, it reminded me of the Terrance & Phillip episode, that wasn't really a subplot, in my opinion at least. To add my 2 cents this episode gives me an idea that Matt & Trey are running out of good ideas.
68.108.153.118
06:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
nope. remember, this is a south park episode, not some random bug stories. so it is a subplot---It's the main plot. I'm going to correct the page.
"hey, who put you in charge?" "god! when he decided to kill my wife" *walk away very cool*
is this from a movie or something? -- Hahih 19:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I've just watched that section of the episode and I don't see it... I propose that this "factoid" be deleted. Observer31 00:09, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ssault ( talk • contribs) 20:33, 18 March 2007.
Another thing, why is it important that this is the first episode with lice as important characters. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Ssmeelink (
talk •
contribs) 21:14, 21 March 2007.
I'm pretty sure that the soap-in-socks is a reference to a blanket party from I believe Full Metal Jacket. I'm not sure about this though. Of course, no blanket was used in the ep Nate1152 04:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Why do some episodes have the stupid "No trivia" tag and others don't? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.250.75.23 ( talk) 20:04, 22 March 2007
I'm pretty sure that the Help me, Help me is a reference to Robocop.I've added it for 3 times now and it keeps being ereased. [[User:Sebastiaanj]
The "blanket party" is something common to military lore and recruit training for years. No reason to single out FMJ as the source of that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.246.149.92 ( talk) 07:04, 25 March 2007
The episode's title is more likely to be a reference to The Ice Capades than a reference to the word poopscapade(which is probably also a reference to ice capades) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.81.27.7 ( talk) 16:49, 21 March 2007
The episode title is most likely a reference to 'The Ice Capades', but a poopscapade is nothing more than a combination of the word Escapade and the word poop. NeoApocalypse 07:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
DO NOT COPY TEXT FROM OTHER WEBSITES! Irish rover 01:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
who. u ppl work reel fast. 10 minutes ago this page was practically blank I am Paranoid 02:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Add soemthing about the ending with Angelina Jolie. -- Xcrissxcrossx 02:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Aren't the "lice" in Angelina Jo Lee's crotch actually crabs? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ssmeelink ( talk • contribs) 21:25, 21 March 2007.
And add something about Al Gore and his film. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.127.5.37 ( talk) 21:26, 21 March 2007
I don't think Al Gore had anything to do with it. All of the environmental references were in light of Deep Ecology or Gaia Theory —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 148.61.208.29 ( talk) 22:27, 21 March 2007
Well, that's the worst episode since A Million Little Fibers. I thought it would be something about Britney Spears. The plot is not based on any cultural reference? That's weird. Lantios 03:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
It’s quite obvious that this episode is making fun of the "Day After Tomorrow". That is with the lice and the vice president of the lice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.80.25.72 ( talk) 03:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC).
I just changed the promo picture to an actual screen capture of the same scene as real pictures are obviously preferable to promotional pictures that were never in the actual episode. I took the screen capture myself. XVertigox 11:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Can we keep some of the references short and sweet (preferably with links.) If you are unsure about it, don't put it in. Also please keep in mind that not everyone is aware of previous SP episodes and references etc, so this information needs to be included. Gaijin84 16:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Firstly, there are several trivia facts that should be "may be a reference to" rather than "is a reference to." Secondly, there are some sloppy grammatical constructions, such as "When Cartman tell's..." Thirdly, the reference to the Gaia hypothesis is only partially true, as a true Gaia hypothesis would involve the lice working as part of the planetary organism, by definition. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.106.204.194 ( talk) 11:54, 22 March 2007
The "help me, help me" is definitely from THE FLY. Watch that movie and hear the line. It is same intonation and also from an insect. This is a well-known line that is almost stereotypical within Hollywood. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.246.149.92 ( talk) 07:20, 25 March 2007
Does anybody know why matt and trey have chosen angelina jolie to make fun of? are there any current references or something? thx. -- 85.181.79.101 20:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
... Why was it an ooze instead of a foam? Clyde sucks at washing his hair... How can you even avoid lathering like that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.72.21.221 ( talk) 16:43, 22 March 2007
Anything starting with the words "this is the (insert number) time that (event or person) has happend/appeared..." is unneeded. It can lead to things like "this is the 4th time that Cartman has said the word (some word)." Waste of space. Ssault 00:50, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
"In line with the Gaia hypothesis, the episode takes a shot at Vice President Dick Cheney, and his skepticism on global warming. The vice president even looked like Cheney." Whoever keeps deleting the lice vice presidents physical and behavioral resemblance to Dick Cheney, either stop doing it or state why it is not noteworthy. I'm getting sick of changing it back. There is no reason to delete this trivia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.212.252.173 ( talk) 21:43, 22 March 2007
Dude, it looks nothing like Dick Cheney. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.130.133.127 ( talk) 13:30, 23 March 2007
this is wikipedia, not a place for you to get your political aggression out, go yell at the White House.--
Ssault
12:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Wrong. It looked exactly like Cheney. The hair is a dead give away. Stop editing this page just because you're a Neo Conservative and censor everything that opposes your viewpoint. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.212.252.173 ( talk) 16:37, 23 March 2007
Wikipedia is not the place for speculation and invented facts. Saying it was Cheney is a statement based on your own view, not the view of fact. 66.212.252.173, this is not a political forum, nor is it a place for personal attacks.
--
Ssault
12:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm really surprised there isn't more discussion about global warming in this episode and I'm surprised no one more seems to think the VP was Dick Cheney. They spent time having the main louse explain how much they were changing the Earth and you could see them tearing down hair (natural resources) but there is no mention of it in the article. Also the VP shot the female louse in the face- how are more people not seeing this? Global warming has been in the news lately because of Al Gore and the oscars and all that and I think that that is the basis for this episode. SSault, I understand why you don't want this to be a polital forum, and I agree with you, but you can't keep political references off a page when the show so frequently gets political. Atheros1 12:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
--It is speculation. Unless you have citation stating that was the intention of the show and the creators, from the show or the creators, it is speculation, which is against Wikipedia guidelines and will be deleted. There is nothing political about it, this is not my personal thing, it is speculation. It is an extremely easy rule to fallow, and to break.--
Ssault
03:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
That was a rip of the day after tomorrow when he kept trying to warn the vice president. It had nothing to do with Dick Cheney. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.56.168.52 ( talk) 01:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Please stop adding useless information to this area. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.212.252.173 ( talk) 21:58, 22 March 2007
You mean like adding that Craig at the beginning of the Episode was told by the nurse he didn't have lice, and then at the end when Ms Garrison told the class they all had lice, Craig mentions "I thought I was the only one." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.51.41.72 ( talk) 13:39, 25 March 2007
The stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid trvia and culture references needs to stop...stuff like "frame 3553 of this episode seems similar to frame 4556 of such movie because they both use the color red" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ssault ( talk • contribs) 14:50, 23 March 2007.
Im curios to know if that image was an actuall screenshot from the tv broadcast or just a promotional image,because it seems too high resolution to be from the television broadcast,yet it has the distinctive look of an analog sighnal (not to mension the logo not usually not found in promotional images,like the screen of the previous episode) Rodrigue 13:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
never mind,I just read the trivia section 192.30.202.20 14:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
In my opinion, the world being conscious is a clear reference to the Gaia hypothesis, specifically the one used in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. However, both references were removed. In the FF movie, the Earth was reacting to the presence of the Phantoms who were harming it as a life form. Dr. Sid theorized that the Earth was actually alive and nobody believed him, with apocalyptic results. The concept of pointing a gun to the ground and shooting actually "killing the Earth" was mentioned in FF, and in South Park the Vice President actually DID shoot the planet (Craig) and Craig got hurt a little.
Thematically the concept is very similar to FF, which should be evident to anyone who has seen the movie. Even if FF is not mentioned, I say the Gaia hypothesis definitely should be. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.22.151.55 ( talk) 17:08, 24 March 2007
"The "lice" were referring to the Gaia hypothesis when they hypothesized whether their environment was a living organism and whether the harm they were doing to their environment would end up harming them." In the very least, this should remain in, as that is clearly what Matt and Try were referencing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.212.252.173 ( talk) 20:39, 24 March 2007
Agree. It is defenitely a Gaia reference. 71.246.149.92 13:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Definitely a Gaia reference. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.156.8.204 ( talk) 08:33, 28 March 2007
Definatly a Final Fantasy reference. Anyone who has actually seen it, can clearly see the reference in SP. bladez ( talk) 21:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
The similarities to both moves have been added and removed at least twice. I think there is sufficient reason to believe that this episode was a nod to at least one or both of these movies. Trey and Matt are both big fans of Pixar, as they said in the Cartmanland episode's commentary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.22.151.55 ( talk) 17:11, 24 March 2007
That's speculation, which will be removed. --
Ssault
00:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Many of the reference citations are speculative. This one seems reasonable. Many of the mannerisms of the insects (for instance the emphasis on romance) strongly mimic the previous "bug" movies. 71.246.149.92 13:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I never thought of that, but this might be a reference to all those bug cartoons. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bear199 ( talk • contribs) 14:23, 25 March 2007.
I've removed all but one of the images and all the original research. — An gr 16:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Meanwhile, from on top of Clyde's head, the episode follows a subplot involving one of Clyde's lice, a louse named Travis. ---I think this was the main plot. Any thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bear199 ( talk • contribs) 14:25, 25 March 2007.
I agree, The Lice story is clearly the mainplot in the episode 137.224.147.76 07:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
nope. remember, this is a south park episode, not some random bug stories. so it is a subplot —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.82.78.96 ( talk) 07:15, 28 March 2007
Hard to say, it reminded me of the Terrance & Phillip episode, that wasn't really a subplot, in my opinion at least. To add my 2 cents this episode gives me an idea that Matt & Trey are running out of good ideas.
68.108.153.118
06:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
nope. remember, this is a south park episode, not some random bug stories. so it is a subplot---It's the main plot. I'm going to correct the page.
"hey, who put you in charge?" "god! when he decided to kill my wife" *walk away very cool*
is this from a movie or something? -- Hahih 19:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I've just watched that section of the episode and I don't see it... I propose that this "factoid" be deleted. Observer31 00:09, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Image:Cartmanblowtorch.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
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