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Arbitrary heading

I've just stated this entry. References will follow shortly - please don't delete! Harbard the Ancient ( talk) 19:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Took off the "unreferenced" tag - hope that's ok. Harbard the Ancient ( talk) 21:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Bulked up the page a bit with extra information. FUTURI ( talk) 02:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Did you know nomination

  • ... that in 1941 Aleister Crowley issued a manifesto of human rights which included the controversial assertion of the right to commit tyrannicide?
  • Source: Crowley, Aleister; et. al. (2004) [1997]. "Editor's note to p. 689 Appendix VIII". In Hymenaeus Beta (ed.). Magick: Liber ABA, Book 4, parts I-IV (2nd. rev. ed.). York Beach, Maine: S. Weiser. p. 788: "[...] but I've got them down to five sections: moral, bodily, mental, sexual freedom, and the safeguard tyrannicide [...]".
  • Reviewed:
5x expanded by Skyerise ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Skyerise ( talk) 11:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC). reply

Safeguard tyrannicide

Someone changed this heading, but this is the author's stated intent. quoted in the last paragraph of the history section. We would need sources that show that he intended it to be applied more generally than he stated, or that his modern-day followers interpret it more broadly, to change the heading. I am open to this change, just so long as the necessary text and citations needed to support the new heading are provided. Skyerise ( talk) 08:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Article is far too long for subject

The entirety of Liber OZ is shorter than this article's "summary" of it. Mosi Nuru ( talk) 17:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Mosi Nuru: That's your opinion. Most of the length is due to giving the historical context, which is essential. Also, when two editors disagree, policy says the article stays as it was. See WP:BRD. If you make a bold edit, and are reverted, then unless there is a consensus for change, the article is maintained as is was. You are also not permitted to canvass other editors to build a consensus, but typically must wait for editors already watching the article to respond. I get that you apparently don't like the topic, but you are only here to hound me due to a disagreement elsewhere. And as you have been informed, that's prohibited behavior which interfere with the work of other editors. Skyerise ( talk) 20:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
"you are only here to hound me due to a disagreement elsewhere" - I wish you would stop accusing me of bad faith, it does not help the make the article better.
WP:AGF Mosi Nuru ( talk) 20:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Headings

The headings follow the categories from Crowley's own description, quoted at the end of the history section: ""five sections: moral, bodily, mental, sexual, and the safeguard tyrannicide...". If you want to change them, you must show a consensus to do so. Thanks. Skyerise ( talk) 20:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Scyrme: @ Randy Kryn:: your thoughts on the several ill-considered edits and comments from a relatively new editor above? Skyerise ( talk) 00:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I'm not aware enough of the topic in order to have an opinion. Thanks for the ping. Randy Kryn ( talk) 00:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Arbitrary heading

I've just stated this entry. References will follow shortly - please don't delete! Harbard the Ancient ( talk) 19:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Took off the "unreferenced" tag - hope that's ok. Harbard the Ancient ( talk) 21:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Bulked up the page a bit with extra information. FUTURI ( talk) 02:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Did you know nomination

  • ... that in 1941 Aleister Crowley issued a manifesto of human rights which included the controversial assertion of the right to commit tyrannicide?
  • Source: Crowley, Aleister; et. al. (2004) [1997]. "Editor's note to p. 689 Appendix VIII". In Hymenaeus Beta (ed.). Magick: Liber ABA, Book 4, parts I-IV (2nd. rev. ed.). York Beach, Maine: S. Weiser. p. 788: "[...] but I've got them down to five sections: moral, bodily, mental, sexual freedom, and the safeguard tyrannicide [...]".
  • Reviewed:
5x expanded by Skyerise ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Skyerise ( talk) 11:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC). reply

Safeguard tyrannicide

Someone changed this heading, but this is the author's stated intent. quoted in the last paragraph of the history section. We would need sources that show that he intended it to be applied more generally than he stated, or that his modern-day followers interpret it more broadly, to change the heading. I am open to this change, just so long as the necessary text and citations needed to support the new heading are provided. Skyerise ( talk) 08:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Article is far too long for subject

The entirety of Liber OZ is shorter than this article's "summary" of it. Mosi Nuru ( talk) 17:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Mosi Nuru: That's your opinion. Most of the length is due to giving the historical context, which is essential. Also, when two editors disagree, policy says the article stays as it was. See WP:BRD. If you make a bold edit, and are reverted, then unless there is a consensus for change, the article is maintained as is was. You are also not permitted to canvass other editors to build a consensus, but typically must wait for editors already watching the article to respond. I get that you apparently don't like the topic, but you are only here to hound me due to a disagreement elsewhere. And as you have been informed, that's prohibited behavior which interfere with the work of other editors. Skyerise ( talk) 20:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
"you are only here to hound me due to a disagreement elsewhere" - I wish you would stop accusing me of bad faith, it does not help the make the article better.
WP:AGF Mosi Nuru ( talk) 20:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Headings

The headings follow the categories from Crowley's own description, quoted at the end of the history section: ""five sections: moral, bodily, mental, sexual, and the safeguard tyrannicide...". If you want to change them, you must show a consensus to do so. Thanks. Skyerise ( talk) 20:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Scyrme: @ Randy Kryn:: your thoughts on the several ill-considered edits and comments from a relatively new editor above? Skyerise ( talk) 00:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I'm not aware enough of the topic in order to have an opinion. Thanks for the ping. Randy Kryn ( talk) 00:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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