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Can it be right that this genus was named after Eugène, first Prince von Leuchtenberg? He died in 1824, but the genus was not erected by Hooker until 1848. It seems more likely that Hooker had in mind his son Maximilian, who was alive at the time.
It is a curious fact that Maximilian's granddaughter Daria married Lev Mikhailovich Kotschoubey (Кочубей), the grandson of Viktor Pavlovich Kotschoubey, after whom Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus is named.
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19:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)Лудольф
Further research shows I was right. I have modified the page accordingly. Лудольф ( talk) 13:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
The fact, that Eugène de Beauharnais ("Prince" - better "duke" - of Leuchtenberg) died before the plant was named, is no reason. If you give a plant or a an animal a name in classification, the person, who is honored, must not be alive. If the person is not born - that would be a reason ... ;-)
Which further research shows, that Leuchtenbergia is named after Maximilian J. A. N. Leuchtenberg (1817 - 1852) and not after Eugène de Beauharnais, "Prince" (duke) of Leuchtenberg?
In the Web and in the literature you can find both versions. Only to find one or several references then for one version is not enough.
Who knows the right eponym from fundamental research? For example in "William Jackson Hooker: Leuchtenbergia principis, The Botanical Magazine: 4393, 1848"? Who has the chance to have a look in this first description of HOOKER? And the one who named this cactus as Leuchtenbergia was not Sir William Jackson Hooker (he made the original description of Leuchtenbergia principis), but Ernst Ludwig von Fischer (1782-1854), director of the botanical garden St. Petersburg, he named the Leuchtenbergia before the description of Hooker. Who has access to what he wrote then?
And after whom the Leuchtenbergia is named from Ernst Ludwig von Fischer? After Eugène de Beauharnais or after his son Maximilian? Who can mention here the right source?
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Schratmaki
Some data of this case in german language: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Leuchtenbergia_principis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.2.239.204 ( talk) 19:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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Can it be right that this genus was named after Eugène, first Prince von Leuchtenberg? He died in 1824, but the genus was not erected by Hooker until 1848. It seems more likely that Hooker had in mind his son Maximilian, who was alive at the time.
It is a curious fact that Maximilian's granddaughter Daria married Lev Mikhailovich Kotschoubey (Кочубей), the grandson of Viktor Pavlovich Kotschoubey, after whom Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus is named.
Лудольф (
talk)
19:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)Лудольф
Further research shows I was right. I have modified the page accordingly. Лудольф ( talk) 13:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
The fact, that Eugène de Beauharnais ("Prince" - better "duke" - of Leuchtenberg) died before the plant was named, is no reason. If you give a plant or a an animal a name in classification, the person, who is honored, must not be alive. If the person is not born - that would be a reason ... ;-)
Which further research shows, that Leuchtenbergia is named after Maximilian J. A. N. Leuchtenberg (1817 - 1852) and not after Eugène de Beauharnais, "Prince" (duke) of Leuchtenberg?
In the Web and in the literature you can find both versions. Only to find one or several references then for one version is not enough.
Who knows the right eponym from fundamental research? For example in "William Jackson Hooker: Leuchtenbergia principis, The Botanical Magazine: 4393, 1848"? Who has the chance to have a look in this first description of HOOKER? And the one who named this cactus as Leuchtenbergia was not Sir William Jackson Hooker (he made the original description of Leuchtenbergia principis), but Ernst Ludwig von Fischer (1782-1854), director of the botanical garden St. Petersburg, he named the Leuchtenbergia before the description of Hooker. Who has access to what he wrote then?
And after whom the Leuchtenbergia is named from Ernst Ludwig von Fischer? After Eugène de Beauharnais or after his son Maximilian? Who can mention here the right source?
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Schratmaki
Some data of this case in german language: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Leuchtenbergia_principis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.2.239.204 ( talk) 19:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)