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Shouldn't there be a mention of the national socialism? I think that would be the most obvious example of "left wing " (socialist) "nationalism" (in its most extreme form).-- 71.201.136.52 ( talk) 17:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Nazis should be on here I agree but so should black nationalist movements like the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.87.102.239 ( talk) 15:02, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Why fought Catalan left-wing nationalists Franco, when he was supported by German fascists? Why they have fought someone who should have the similar ideology? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.76.86.57 ( talk) 16:27, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
That's a dubious claim. Academically speaking, Nazism isn't considered to be a left wing, even if it's inspired by left wing ideologies. With that said, Nazis shouldn't be mentioned. HunterZ-PT ( talk) 20:10, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Regarding this, it has nothing to do with Soviet historiography. Nazism is a form of fascisim as reflected in these and other sources:
Yes, there were some difference between Italian Fascism and Nazism, or between Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, but both are considered forms of fascism by scholars of fascism. Unless you can get that part removed from the lead of Nazism, the hatnote should reflect that article. We should not just say it is unrelated but explain why it is; the difference is that Nazism (National Socialism) is far-right fascism, not left-wing (nationalist) socialism. Davide King ( talk) 01:09, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps " arab socialism" ( nasserism, baathism) should be mentioned in the article? It is probably the best and most known example of trying to combine nationalism and socialism (even if some fringe far-right circles in Europe also idolize these regimes). MiguelMadeira ( talk) 15:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
I think that adding in some Kurdish nationalist movements could work as examples of left wing nationalism such as The PKK Darkdeath0123 ( talk) 15:07, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
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Shouldn't there be a mention of the national socialism? I think that would be the most obvious example of "left wing " (socialist) "nationalism" (in its most extreme form).-- 71.201.136.52 ( talk) 17:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Nazis should be on here I agree but so should black nationalist movements like the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.87.102.239 ( talk) 15:02, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Why fought Catalan left-wing nationalists Franco, when he was supported by German fascists? Why they have fought someone who should have the similar ideology? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.76.86.57 ( talk) 16:27, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
That's a dubious claim. Academically speaking, Nazism isn't considered to be a left wing, even if it's inspired by left wing ideologies. With that said, Nazis shouldn't be mentioned. HunterZ-PT ( talk) 20:10, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Regarding this, it has nothing to do with Soviet historiography. Nazism is a form of fascisim as reflected in these and other sources:
Yes, there were some difference between Italian Fascism and Nazism, or between Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, but both are considered forms of fascism by scholars of fascism. Unless you can get that part removed from the lead of Nazism, the hatnote should reflect that article. We should not just say it is unrelated but explain why it is; the difference is that Nazism (National Socialism) is far-right fascism, not left-wing (nationalist) socialism. Davide King ( talk) 01:09, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps " arab socialism" ( nasserism, baathism) should be mentioned in the article? It is probably the best and most known example of trying to combine nationalism and socialism (even if some fringe far-right circles in Europe also idolize these regimes). MiguelMadeira ( talk) 15:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
I think that adding in some Kurdish nationalist movements could work as examples of left wing nationalism such as The PKK Darkdeath0123 ( talk) 15:07, 3 June 2023 (UTC)