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This article concerning LeCrae has been cited as not having been referenced. I am not sure if someone has recently explored this article, but there are clearly references used in this article. In light of the fact that it is already sourced, I believe that the status of the article should be changed. Drean20 22:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
The Personal Life section doesn't sound like an encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.194.208 ( talk) 23:51, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Didn't he do the song "Keep Changing the World" with the band Mikeschair? I couldn't find any mention of that song in this article... 184.95.85.7 ( talk) 19:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
This article needs a complete rewrite. The entire biography section reads like a church testimony of this man's piousness. It's written in a very non-neutral tone. -- œ ™ 18:38, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Its a complete copy and paste from his labels site, facebook, myspace, etc. See. Inhumer ( talk) 00:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
To ensure neutrality one could focus on his documented trouble with the law that he has talked about, so it's not just a piece about his walk with God but also his earlier struggles. JFL1991 ( talk) 05:20, 13 May 2011 (UTC)JFL1991
I tried to clean up the bio section of peacock terms and puffery, but perhaps I went too far. However, since *nothing* in the bio section is cited, phrases like these: "Listeners responded by quickly noting him as an emcee that meets people where they are by delivering transparent and meaningful messages." "As Lecrae continued to make his mark in the music industry, he realized the stage wasn’t enough." "but the Lord had different plans," "Lecrae is humbled by his position in leading others towards Christ." sound really cheesy, unencyclopedic and (to me) they are nothing but thinly veiled POV. I'm in no way trying to bash Lecrae, or what he does and stands for, but this section really needs help. 98.71.49.64 ( talk) 21:29, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I am responding to a recent change to LeCrae's Wikipedia page. I would propose that according to Wikipedia standards, birthdates are qualified as personal information that should not be posted on Wikipedia [1]. Although birthdates are public information that can be acquired through search agencies and government documents, that still does not make it approved Wikipedia material. I have already notified Wiki admin about the information and requested that it be removed.
I have yet to find any other site that displays LeCrae's birthdate, other than Wikipedia and those sites that directly pull and quote from Wikipedia; before this was posted on Wikipedia back in October, it was not searchable on the internet. If you do find a source that is reliable, please notify me.
I hope you would understand, being involved in the music industry yourself, why someone like LeCrae Moore would not want this kind of information so easily accessible (all it takes is typing his name into Google).
Thanks man, Bryan116 ( talk) 22:18, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
The birthdate for Lecrae was recently changed by an IP editor, and then was removed by another editor do to privacy concerns. The editor who removed the date, Walter Görlitz, has stated that they recall a request not to include the birthdate over concerns of identity theft. Can this request be confirmed?-- ¿3fam ily6 contribs 22:24, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I have a question about the origin part of the Infobox. I'm fine with Atlanta, but I've seen a lot of sources say that he comes from Texas. Should we maybe simplify it to the US, and maybe elaborate in the article?-- ¿3fam ily6 contribs 12:00, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
If anyone is interested, I'm creating an article on the upcoming Gravity album. Feel free to play around if you want.-- ¿3fam ily6 contribs 00:51, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Hey Walter,
first off my bad, I'm new to using wikipedia so I didn't know I was getting comments from you.
Ok, now about the Christian hip hop stuff, I know that Lecrae himself said that having a certain worldview does not make him a Christian rapper and he said himself that he is not fond of this title. I saw it on the interview i sent you, and I know that with the goals lecrae is aiming for, having that label placed on the main place people will go to find info about him is going to hold him back. Many of the magazines followed suit with that interview, I was wondering if we could do the same thing here.
I know that you said him being a Christian is what defines him as a Christian rapper, but you mentioned some circles. In mainstream media, Lecrae is seen as a rapper (one of few) unashamed to talk about real life and (more importantly) what he believes in. I feel that since most people coming here have heard of him from mainstream media, it would be a misrepresentation to keep the term Christian rapper as his genre and occupation.
Also I saw on your page that you yourself are a Christian, I am too and I'm only doing this because I want to keep as many doors open for Lecrae as possible and to make sure that he is represented correctly, to further open doors for Lecrae to present Christ and redemption in a proper setting.
I'll be dead honest with you, I am a rapper myself who is Christian, and I have found it to be very difficult when I would call myself a Christian rapper and overdiscuss Christianity in my songs. Lecrae used to be all Jesus and a little preachy back in albums like Rebel and before, but I think that as he sort of grew out of that mindset, like he mentioned in that youtube link I put in the description, he grew out of being a Christian rapper (in the context that I described previously) and just started being a rapper who relates to other people, talks real life in his songs, and is unashamed of what he believes in. I am not saying that he didn't do that before, but he said in another interview ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1PGdr2F4ss starting at 10:48) that him and his team really did start out as Bible thumping rappers, but that as they grew, their ideologies changed and that really not what God called them to be. I feel the same thing happened with both of us as God sort of revealed that being the most unashamed or the most blatant about the faith is not the way God called us to bring people to Himself, but rather, coming to them in a way they can relate to and just be more relevant to people's personal lives. Because of that, so many doors have been opened for both of us, today alone, I got to share with people about God because I was being relevant and just all together putting out good music, just like Lecrae has been doing and I think his new album Gravity is testament to that.
I am sorry if I seemed overly pushy with all the corrections, I thought it was my computer that was jacking up. I'll make sure not do it again.
I really do ask that you consider this because this is a rather large issue that I think resolving would help Lecrae out a lot and correct many misconceptions.
Thank you for your time and God Bless! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buchela123 ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Buchela123 ( talk) 03:29, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Add Ashthon Jones and Mathai to Associated Acts, please! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.168.81.68 ( talk) 23:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=782gOJYB2Wg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.102.122 ( talk) 00:07, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
I guess I'll ask this here, since I've wondered this for a while. 116 Clique is listed as an associated act, as it should be. However, Lecrae very, very frequently collabs with the group members outside of the group. Should these individuals (Trip Lee, Derek Minor, Tedashii, Sho Baraka, etc.) be listed as well, or is the 116 Clique listing sufficient?-- ¿3fam ily6 contribs 16:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Does Lecrae not live in Memphis? Not only does he mention something of the sort in his song 'Sacrifice', he also works with Heat Academy, one of his top producers of the moment for both Church Clothes volume 1, it's follow up and Gravity.
Heat Academy lives in Memphis so that significantly would be the reason why Lecrae works with in. He only works in Atlanta, as the Reach Records offices are there.
Please consider changing this information with use of the following references:
Source: http://www.familychristian.com/blog/pulling-no-punches-an-interview-with-lecrae -- Realmixwell ( talk) 13:19, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
116 Clique is regular hosts to the 'Unashamed Tour' which happens every year. The tour is based on a certain region, for example last year it took place in the United States alone and in 2011 it took place in Africa.
Please consider creating a page for this and mentioning this information.
Secondly the movement. It's come to my senses that the popular "movement of the young" as mentioned in Reach Records music is no where to be mentioned on Wikipedia. Either a page needs to be made on the whole 'Unashamed' brand or this whole description should be added to the 116 Clique Wikipedia page.
Not only is this movement significant, it is the backbone behind the whole label as Reach Records is "the music of a movement." By the way, the label also has various apparel distributed by Merchline, which caters for both Lecrae's music and all the other artists belonging to the label.
Below are some useful references regarding this:
Thank You.
Realmixwell ( talk) 21:11, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
It seems that "Christian hip hop" may not sufficiently describe the subject's genres. Looking at his primary discography I see the following genres:
The one constant is Christian hip hop, which is already listed. He has two southern hip hop, which reflect his earlier works. The remainder are only listed once. We would really need more sources on the two that @ Polop121: has been adding: southern hip hop and conscious hip hop. Particularly with the latter, we shouldn't focus on recent genres to the detriment of the subject's entire career. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 22:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
I have reviewed this article here. While it meets the Good article criteria, I have put it on hold because I have made a few suggestions for improvement. Feel free to address. Jacedc ( talk) 00:35, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
@ Walter Görlitz: @ 3family6:Okay, so we have several sources saying that Lecrae is thought of by some, many even, as a christian hip hop artist. These are WP:RSes. We know there's controversy about it, and that prominent sources still call him a christian rapper. Why all the revisions instead of combining these things into a more complete description of reality? Why not keep the sources, but point out the controversy?-- Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 20:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Also, let's follow the Bold-Revert-Discuss cycle instead of just reverting each other and saying cryptic things in the edit summaries, I'm guilty of it too.-- Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 20:46, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Walter you are right LeCrae is a Christian rapper, but he said he is just a rapper. JSA Baller 2.0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsaballer 2.0 ( talk • contribs) 23:50, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
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This is getting ridiculous. Zaytoven does not meet the criteria of an associated act as he worked on one album and per Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts, "this field is for professional relationships with other musicians or bands that are significant and notable to this artist's career." They worked on one album to date: Let the Trap Say Amen. It did not chart high on the Billboard 200 (No. 49) and no songs charted as singles. There is no significant association between the two and it's definitely not notable to either artist's career. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 15:25, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
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@ 3family6: for the infobox, I generally prefer an image that clearly shows the face of a person. I think File:Lecrae (cropped).jpg is more suitable for the infobox than File:Lecrae (screenshot).png. But if that's just me, I won't revert. Perhaps other editors could weigh in? - Alexis Jazz 20:00, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
We could also go back to the photo with him and Akon at the Billboard Music Awards.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me | See what I have done) 14:14, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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A fact from Lecrae appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the
Did you know column on 15 May 2015 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
|
This article concerning LeCrae has been cited as not having been referenced. I am not sure if someone has recently explored this article, but there are clearly references used in this article. In light of the fact that it is already sourced, I believe that the status of the article should be changed. Drean20 22:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
The Personal Life section doesn't sound like an encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.194.208 ( talk) 23:51, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Didn't he do the song "Keep Changing the World" with the band Mikeschair? I couldn't find any mention of that song in this article... 184.95.85.7 ( talk) 19:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
This article needs a complete rewrite. The entire biography section reads like a church testimony of this man's piousness. It's written in a very non-neutral tone. -- œ ™ 18:38, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Its a complete copy and paste from his labels site, facebook, myspace, etc. See. Inhumer ( talk) 00:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
To ensure neutrality one could focus on his documented trouble with the law that he has talked about, so it's not just a piece about his walk with God but also his earlier struggles. JFL1991 ( talk) 05:20, 13 May 2011 (UTC)JFL1991
I tried to clean up the bio section of peacock terms and puffery, but perhaps I went too far. However, since *nothing* in the bio section is cited, phrases like these: "Listeners responded by quickly noting him as an emcee that meets people where they are by delivering transparent and meaningful messages." "As Lecrae continued to make his mark in the music industry, he realized the stage wasn’t enough." "but the Lord had different plans," "Lecrae is humbled by his position in leading others towards Christ." sound really cheesy, unencyclopedic and (to me) they are nothing but thinly veiled POV. I'm in no way trying to bash Lecrae, or what he does and stands for, but this section really needs help. 98.71.49.64 ( talk) 21:29, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I am responding to a recent change to LeCrae's Wikipedia page. I would propose that according to Wikipedia standards, birthdates are qualified as personal information that should not be posted on Wikipedia [1]. Although birthdates are public information that can be acquired through search agencies and government documents, that still does not make it approved Wikipedia material. I have already notified Wiki admin about the information and requested that it be removed.
I have yet to find any other site that displays LeCrae's birthdate, other than Wikipedia and those sites that directly pull and quote from Wikipedia; before this was posted on Wikipedia back in October, it was not searchable on the internet. If you do find a source that is reliable, please notify me.
I hope you would understand, being involved in the music industry yourself, why someone like LeCrae Moore would not want this kind of information so easily accessible (all it takes is typing his name into Google).
Thanks man, Bryan116 ( talk) 22:18, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
The birthdate for Lecrae was recently changed by an IP editor, and then was removed by another editor do to privacy concerns. The editor who removed the date, Walter Görlitz, has stated that they recall a request not to include the birthdate over concerns of identity theft. Can this request be confirmed?-- ¿3fam ily6 contribs 22:24, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I have a question about the origin part of the Infobox. I'm fine with Atlanta, but I've seen a lot of sources say that he comes from Texas. Should we maybe simplify it to the US, and maybe elaborate in the article?-- ¿3fam ily6 contribs 12:00, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
If anyone is interested, I'm creating an article on the upcoming Gravity album. Feel free to play around if you want.-- ¿3fam ily6 contribs 00:51, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Hey Walter,
first off my bad, I'm new to using wikipedia so I didn't know I was getting comments from you.
Ok, now about the Christian hip hop stuff, I know that Lecrae himself said that having a certain worldview does not make him a Christian rapper and he said himself that he is not fond of this title. I saw it on the interview i sent you, and I know that with the goals lecrae is aiming for, having that label placed on the main place people will go to find info about him is going to hold him back. Many of the magazines followed suit with that interview, I was wondering if we could do the same thing here.
I know that you said him being a Christian is what defines him as a Christian rapper, but you mentioned some circles. In mainstream media, Lecrae is seen as a rapper (one of few) unashamed to talk about real life and (more importantly) what he believes in. I feel that since most people coming here have heard of him from mainstream media, it would be a misrepresentation to keep the term Christian rapper as his genre and occupation.
Also I saw on your page that you yourself are a Christian, I am too and I'm only doing this because I want to keep as many doors open for Lecrae as possible and to make sure that he is represented correctly, to further open doors for Lecrae to present Christ and redemption in a proper setting.
I'll be dead honest with you, I am a rapper myself who is Christian, and I have found it to be very difficult when I would call myself a Christian rapper and overdiscuss Christianity in my songs. Lecrae used to be all Jesus and a little preachy back in albums like Rebel and before, but I think that as he sort of grew out of that mindset, like he mentioned in that youtube link I put in the description, he grew out of being a Christian rapper (in the context that I described previously) and just started being a rapper who relates to other people, talks real life in his songs, and is unashamed of what he believes in. I am not saying that he didn't do that before, but he said in another interview ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1PGdr2F4ss starting at 10:48) that him and his team really did start out as Bible thumping rappers, but that as they grew, their ideologies changed and that really not what God called them to be. I feel the same thing happened with both of us as God sort of revealed that being the most unashamed or the most blatant about the faith is not the way God called us to bring people to Himself, but rather, coming to them in a way they can relate to and just be more relevant to people's personal lives. Because of that, so many doors have been opened for both of us, today alone, I got to share with people about God because I was being relevant and just all together putting out good music, just like Lecrae has been doing and I think his new album Gravity is testament to that.
I am sorry if I seemed overly pushy with all the corrections, I thought it was my computer that was jacking up. I'll make sure not do it again.
I really do ask that you consider this because this is a rather large issue that I think resolving would help Lecrae out a lot and correct many misconceptions.
Thank you for your time and God Bless! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buchela123 ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Buchela123 ( talk) 03:29, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Add Ashthon Jones and Mathai to Associated Acts, please! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.168.81.68 ( talk) 23:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=782gOJYB2Wg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.102.122 ( talk) 00:07, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
I guess I'll ask this here, since I've wondered this for a while. 116 Clique is listed as an associated act, as it should be. However, Lecrae very, very frequently collabs with the group members outside of the group. Should these individuals (Trip Lee, Derek Minor, Tedashii, Sho Baraka, etc.) be listed as well, or is the 116 Clique listing sufficient?-- ¿3fam ily6 contribs 16:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Does Lecrae not live in Memphis? Not only does he mention something of the sort in his song 'Sacrifice', he also works with Heat Academy, one of his top producers of the moment for both Church Clothes volume 1, it's follow up and Gravity.
Heat Academy lives in Memphis so that significantly would be the reason why Lecrae works with in. He only works in Atlanta, as the Reach Records offices are there.
Please consider changing this information with use of the following references:
Source: http://www.familychristian.com/blog/pulling-no-punches-an-interview-with-lecrae -- Realmixwell ( talk) 13:19, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
116 Clique is regular hosts to the 'Unashamed Tour' which happens every year. The tour is based on a certain region, for example last year it took place in the United States alone and in 2011 it took place in Africa.
Please consider creating a page for this and mentioning this information.
Secondly the movement. It's come to my senses that the popular "movement of the young" as mentioned in Reach Records music is no where to be mentioned on Wikipedia. Either a page needs to be made on the whole 'Unashamed' brand or this whole description should be added to the 116 Clique Wikipedia page.
Not only is this movement significant, it is the backbone behind the whole label as Reach Records is "the music of a movement." By the way, the label also has various apparel distributed by Merchline, which caters for both Lecrae's music and all the other artists belonging to the label.
Below are some useful references regarding this:
Thank You.
Realmixwell ( talk) 21:11, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
It seems that "Christian hip hop" may not sufficiently describe the subject's genres. Looking at his primary discography I see the following genres:
The one constant is Christian hip hop, which is already listed. He has two southern hip hop, which reflect his earlier works. The remainder are only listed once. We would really need more sources on the two that @ Polop121: has been adding: southern hip hop and conscious hip hop. Particularly with the latter, we shouldn't focus on recent genres to the detriment of the subject's entire career. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 22:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
I have reviewed this article here. While it meets the Good article criteria, I have put it on hold because I have made a few suggestions for improvement. Feel free to address. Jacedc ( talk) 00:35, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
@ Walter Görlitz: @ 3family6:Okay, so we have several sources saying that Lecrae is thought of by some, many even, as a christian hip hop artist. These are WP:RSes. We know there's controversy about it, and that prominent sources still call him a christian rapper. Why all the revisions instead of combining these things into a more complete description of reality? Why not keep the sources, but point out the controversy?-- Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 20:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Also, let's follow the Bold-Revert-Discuss cycle instead of just reverting each other and saying cryptic things in the edit summaries, I'm guilty of it too.-- Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 20:46, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Walter you are right LeCrae is a Christian rapper, but he said he is just a rapper. JSA Baller 2.0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsaballer 2.0 ( talk • contribs) 23:50, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
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This is getting ridiculous. Zaytoven does not meet the criteria of an associated act as he worked on one album and per Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts, "this field is for professional relationships with other musicians or bands that are significant and notable to this artist's career." They worked on one album to date: Let the Trap Say Amen. It did not chart high on the Billboard 200 (No. 49) and no songs charted as singles. There is no significant association between the two and it's definitely not notable to either artist's career. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 15:25, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
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@ 3family6: for the infobox, I generally prefer an image that clearly shows the face of a person. I think File:Lecrae (cropped).jpg is more suitable for the infobox than File:Lecrae (screenshot).png. But if that's just me, I won't revert. Perhaps other editors could weigh in? - Alexis Jazz 20:00, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
We could also go back to the photo with him and Akon at the Billboard Music Awards.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me | See what I have done) 14:14, 11 April 2020 (UTC)