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Wood Badge is pretty well covered, but the background and connections or path between the various adult training programs could be covered here. The adult section is pretty thin right now because I started the youth program section with content about the history of NYLT that I moved from that page. Some pages about the Venturing training programs like Kodiak had not been included in the overview.
The "controversy" section attempts to document some volunteers' dissatisfaction with changes made by the national staff. Some leaders I am friends with are unhappy with the fact that NYLT is now coed. If someone can find a reliable source for this, this info ought to be added too.
I suggest that general info about leadership in other BSA articles be moved here. The Boy Scouts of America article contains a brief section on leadership that I added some time ago because I didn't have the time to create this article at that time. It remains a pretty high-level overview, but does need to be updated. — btphelps ( talk) ( contribs) 05:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
I see that you replaced Youth Leadership Training Continuum with Leadership training (Boy Scouts of America). When I started the Youth Leadership Training Continuum was in three articles so I was trying to remove redundancy. To add to my confusion it seems that Boy Scouts of America and Boy Scouting (Boy Scouts of America) repeat much information and some of the information in Leadership training (Boy Scouts of America). I would love to have a discussion about what goes where but whats the process and who decides? Reviewing Leadership training (Boy Scouts of America), it contains 90+% youth leadership information since the history from National Youth Leadership Training is now there. If Leadership training (Boy Scouts of America) was changed to Youth leadership training (Boy Scouts of America) and the adult information was removed, it would be clearer. The adults probably need their own page to talk about adult programs and Wood Badge. Now to the suggestion to merge National Youth Leadership Training and NYLT program, since the history has been moved, that is an option. The section Merged with Venturing training should be moved to Leadership training (Boy Scouts of America). And I'm not sure about the purpose of the Program controversy section. The Leadership Skills section could be replaced by NYLT program. Easier said than done. BTW Venturing Leadership Skills Course has been replaced by Introduction to Leadership Skills for Crews.
Also NThurston was shown as adopting articles named "Youth Leadership Training" and "Adult Leadership Training", but I don't know what's happening as those titles no longer are shown on Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting/Adoptions. "The times they are a changing" Skipper Tryon2 ( talk) 02:57, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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Wood Badge is pretty well covered, but the background and connections or path between the various adult training programs could be covered here. The adult section is pretty thin right now because I started the youth program section with content about the history of NYLT that I moved from that page. Some pages about the Venturing training programs like Kodiak had not been included in the overview.
The "controversy" section attempts to document some volunteers' dissatisfaction with changes made by the national staff. Some leaders I am friends with are unhappy with the fact that NYLT is now coed. If someone can find a reliable source for this, this info ought to be added too.
I suggest that general info about leadership in other BSA articles be moved here. The Boy Scouts of America article contains a brief section on leadership that I added some time ago because I didn't have the time to create this article at that time. It remains a pretty high-level overview, but does need to be updated. — btphelps ( talk) ( contribs) 05:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
I see that you replaced Youth Leadership Training Continuum with Leadership training (Boy Scouts of America). When I started the Youth Leadership Training Continuum was in three articles so I was trying to remove redundancy. To add to my confusion it seems that Boy Scouts of America and Boy Scouting (Boy Scouts of America) repeat much information and some of the information in Leadership training (Boy Scouts of America). I would love to have a discussion about what goes where but whats the process and who decides? Reviewing Leadership training (Boy Scouts of America), it contains 90+% youth leadership information since the history from National Youth Leadership Training is now there. If Leadership training (Boy Scouts of America) was changed to Youth leadership training (Boy Scouts of America) and the adult information was removed, it would be clearer. The adults probably need their own page to talk about adult programs and Wood Badge. Now to the suggestion to merge National Youth Leadership Training and NYLT program, since the history has been moved, that is an option. The section Merged with Venturing training should be moved to Leadership training (Boy Scouts of America). And I'm not sure about the purpose of the Program controversy section. The Leadership Skills section could be replaced by NYLT program. Easier said than done. BTW Venturing Leadership Skills Course has been replaced by Introduction to Leadership Skills for Crews.
Also NThurston was shown as adopting articles named "Youth Leadership Training" and "Adult Leadership Training", but I don't know what's happening as those titles no longer are shown on Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting/Adoptions. "The times they are a changing" Skipper Tryon2 ( talk) 02:57, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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