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If anyone in interested in Radio stations, take a look at Template:Las Vegas radio for some radio stations that need articles. There are also TV stations missing articles and you can find the redlinks at Template:Las Vegas TV. Vegaswikian 19:35, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Vegaswikian has been deleting this link from the article because "Exactly what material in the article was taken from this refrence source? In any case, claims to be comentary & not fact so it should not be used". The article cited corroborates this article because it mentions several prominent Las Vegas casinos. Portions of it are naturally opinion, but, really, is "MGM Mirage buying Mandalay Bay Resorts and Harrah's buying Caesars" opinion or fact? It's of course a sub-par source, but a weak source is better than none. Insufficient referencing and vandalism are the two main reasons Wikipedia is not considered an accurate source of information. Citing third-party sources to corroborate our facts, even if those sources are not as perfect as we'd like them to be, is imperative. Johnleemk | Talk 07:42, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Is Searchlight part of the Las Vegas metro area? According to this article, Boulder City is generally considered part of the metro area. It is probally only about 25 minutes from the southern city limits of Boulder City to Searchlight. Michaelcox 06:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Boulder City is not a part of the Las Vegas Metropolitan area. Nor is Searchlight. But your suggestion shows how unbelievably crazy this article defines the area. The makers of this article would have a person believe that the entirety of Clark County, Lake Mead, and even Kingman belong under the guise of "Las Vegas Valley". I have taken the responsibility of editing out Boulder City and I will probably contact the Boulder City City's office and have them take care of similar misdeeds involving Black Mountain, Lake Mead, and any other innaccuracies. Hopefully this article can accurately describe what the Las Vegas valley is and not give it credit for things that do not belong. In the end, truth should prevail. TruthQuest
Do not put Boulder City in discussion of the Las Vegas valley. It is incorrect and it will not stand. There are no arguments for the inclusion of Boulder City as a part of the metropolitcan area of Las Vegas.
I'm not from Las Vegas but the words "valley" and "metro area", when speaking in terms of Las Vegas, may mean something different. For instance, the San Fernando Valley which covers northern Los Angeles, Burbank, and Glendale are part of the "valley" in that region, but cities like Anaheim and Long Beach are not in the "valley"; but they all are part of the Los Angeles "metro area". So, maybe Boulder City is or is not in the "Las Vegas Valley" per se, that's a depression of the land. It needs to be researched and determined if its in the valley; but there's no denying Boulder City is in the Las Vegas "metro area". And to answer a response above, the U.S. Census Bureau refers to the area as Las Vegas- Paradise because those are either the two main cities of the metro area or the two most populous cities. Just like Dallas-Fort Worth, Seattle-Tacoma, or Los Angeles-Long Beach. But it doesn't mean there are not a host of other surrounding cities in the metro area. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.176.30 ( talk) 03:25, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Exactly, Boulder City is definitely in the metro area. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.176.30 ( talk) 04:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I requested a citation for the boundaries section. Currently it states "generally thought to be defined...". Which authority generally thinks that the borders are such as mentioned in the article? Isn't there a regional development council or something that oversees the area? What do they say is the extent of their jurisdiction? -- Polaron | Talk 18:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I removed my question about climate because I looked in the wrong article - I see the climate graph is still in the city article. VisitorTalk 03:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Isn't the Las Vegas Metro Area one of the metros most affected by the current United States housing market correction & Subprime mortgage crisis? What is the effect of this on Las Vegas Metro's astronomical rate of population growth? Has it slowed down?-- Section8pidgeon ( talk) 11:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
As with most metropolitan pages, this page should really be structured around the defined Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA. This page doesn't even make mention to this government-defined area. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 10:27, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Someone should update that photo, being from 2006 which is ancient for the city. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 131.216.14.1 ( talk) 20:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
The article was changed a while ago to move the focus from the area surrounding the valley to the MSA. Other then the introduction, I don't believe that the rest of the article has followed. There are several possible reasons why the article probably has not reflected the into change including the fact that the MSA overlaps Clark County. If this article covers the MSA then we have two articles that cover the same area using different names. So is there any object to changing the lead to focus back on the valley area? Vegaswikian ( talk) 06:47, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
The first sentence in this section looks like this: "As of the census[6] of 2000, there were 1,375,765, 512,253 households, and 339,693 families residing within the MSA."
I'm sure "1,375,765" is supposed to have something else behind it besides the other numbers, but I'm not sure what it is. The way the sentence is now, it makes it seem like there is over a "trillion" households in the LVMA! Normstradamus ( talk) 01:08, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
At the beginnings of this article it was about the Valley as seen in the first version. Later in someone argued that since there was an official definition of a metropolitan area, Las Vegas-Paradise-Henderson Metropolitan Statistical Area, the article name should be changed to match. Now we have editors working to try and eliminate the focus on the valley. I don't think that expanding the focus of the article to all of Clark County and Pahrump would serve anyone. Maybe a reword of the introduction to put the focus back on the Valley and the suburbs would be the way to go. One could argue that the Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA and the valley have nothing in common other then the latter is within the boundaries of the former. And the former is within the even broader Las Vegas-Paradise-Pahrump, NV CSA. Given that the inclusion criteria for these government classifications can and does change at the whim of bureaucrats, it makes little sense to try and structure articles around these ignoring the geographic areas that exist naturally. At one time, these definitions actually included parts of Arizona.
So are there objections to resurrecting a Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA article and possibly renaming of this article back to Las Vegas Valley? Or is there a better solution? Vegaswikian ( talk) 18:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
I am interested in including the observations of this article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326187/Las-Vegas-tunnel-people-How-1-000-people-live-shimmering-strip.html Las Vegas tunnel people: How 1,000 people live under shimmering strip | Mail Online into the article. I think it would be under "communities".
There is coverage under : http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2651937/The-people-living-in-drains-below-Las-Vegas.html
Beneath the Neon: http://www.beneaththeneon.com/
Shine A Light: http://www.beneaththeneon.com/shine-a-light.asp
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/subterranean-home-of-las-vegass-losers-1786877.html
http://blogs.lasvegascitylife.com/cityblog/2009/03/25/homeless-outreach-goes-underground/
Thoughts, comments ?
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I suggest a merge between Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA and Las Vegas Valley. These two pages are essentially about the same topic (Las Vegas metro area), just somewhat different definitions. The content at each page would compliment each other well, and the result would be better than both articles separately. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 02:57, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, hardly anyone said anything and I decided to be bold, so much for that. But the AfD crowd would rightly tell me where to shove it if I nominated, since AfD is not for merge proposals. Still, no good arguments from Vegaswikian that the Valley and metro area are genuinely different, and the huge territory covered by the census definition is hardly unique, but no other metro has separate pages. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 03:37, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Las Vegas metro area currently redirects to Las VegasâParadise, NV MSA. Merging Las Vegas Valley and Las VegasâParadise, NV MSA, and placing that article at Las Vegas metro area, makes sense.
The merged article at Las Vegas metro area should of course clarify what Las Vegas Valley and Las VegasâParadise, NV MSA each refer to, preferably in the intro. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 03:21, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout Images for one of the thousands of neighborhoods? An Audi from the auto show? So ***Many*** images. They go on longer than sections... they go on longer than entire article. At the least, it seems to me there are simply too many, and that if we need more than a few of these, they need to be piled into a gallery for those that are needed at all. I am not going to war over any of these (such as the one just re-added), but I argue most need to go, per the MoS. I encourage other editors who are interested to join the discussion. My thinking is that any image not directly tied to sourced content should go. Shajure ( talk) 21:38, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
I'd like to add that the images in this article focus on the Strip too much. I realize that is a huge part of Las Vegas, but this is about the Las Vegas Valley and there should be some more photos of Henderson, Summerlin, Green Valley, etc. Of the 45 total pictures in this article, 27 of the photos are about the Strip and casinos (Including the collage where 5 of the 7 are of the Strip). Seeing all the images here, one gets the impression that the Las Vegas Valley is made up mostly by casinos LasVegasLocal414 ( talk) 09:35, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
I believe this is a junk magnet. I did trim it down to those that had their own articles, though most of those look like real estate wp:advertising, and think they themselves need to go. Do we need the section at all? There was a proposed restore of the "some" in the section head... but lists are never never complete and accurate... there is no need to say so in each... "List of longest-lived humans" would not need to be "List of some of the longest-lived humans with a few errors and frauds" Shajure ( talk) 21:38, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
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If anyone in interested in Radio stations, take a look at Template:Las Vegas radio for some radio stations that need articles. There are also TV stations missing articles and you can find the redlinks at Template:Las Vegas TV. Vegaswikian 19:35, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Vegaswikian has been deleting this link from the article because "Exactly what material in the article was taken from this refrence source? In any case, claims to be comentary & not fact so it should not be used". The article cited corroborates this article because it mentions several prominent Las Vegas casinos. Portions of it are naturally opinion, but, really, is "MGM Mirage buying Mandalay Bay Resorts and Harrah's buying Caesars" opinion or fact? It's of course a sub-par source, but a weak source is better than none. Insufficient referencing and vandalism are the two main reasons Wikipedia is not considered an accurate source of information. Citing third-party sources to corroborate our facts, even if those sources are not as perfect as we'd like them to be, is imperative. Johnleemk | Talk 07:42, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Is Searchlight part of the Las Vegas metro area? According to this article, Boulder City is generally considered part of the metro area. It is probally only about 25 minutes from the southern city limits of Boulder City to Searchlight. Michaelcox 06:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Boulder City is not a part of the Las Vegas Metropolitan area. Nor is Searchlight. But your suggestion shows how unbelievably crazy this article defines the area. The makers of this article would have a person believe that the entirety of Clark County, Lake Mead, and even Kingman belong under the guise of "Las Vegas Valley". I have taken the responsibility of editing out Boulder City and I will probably contact the Boulder City City's office and have them take care of similar misdeeds involving Black Mountain, Lake Mead, and any other innaccuracies. Hopefully this article can accurately describe what the Las Vegas valley is and not give it credit for things that do not belong. In the end, truth should prevail. TruthQuest
Do not put Boulder City in discussion of the Las Vegas valley. It is incorrect and it will not stand. There are no arguments for the inclusion of Boulder City as a part of the metropolitcan area of Las Vegas.
I'm not from Las Vegas but the words "valley" and "metro area", when speaking in terms of Las Vegas, may mean something different. For instance, the San Fernando Valley which covers northern Los Angeles, Burbank, and Glendale are part of the "valley" in that region, but cities like Anaheim and Long Beach are not in the "valley"; but they all are part of the Los Angeles "metro area". So, maybe Boulder City is or is not in the "Las Vegas Valley" per se, that's a depression of the land. It needs to be researched and determined if its in the valley; but there's no denying Boulder City is in the Las Vegas "metro area". And to answer a response above, the U.S. Census Bureau refers to the area as Las Vegas- Paradise because those are either the two main cities of the metro area or the two most populous cities. Just like Dallas-Fort Worth, Seattle-Tacoma, or Los Angeles-Long Beach. But it doesn't mean there are not a host of other surrounding cities in the metro area. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.176.30 ( talk) 03:25, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Exactly, Boulder City is definitely in the metro area. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.176.30 ( talk) 04:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I requested a citation for the boundaries section. Currently it states "generally thought to be defined...". Which authority generally thinks that the borders are such as mentioned in the article? Isn't there a regional development council or something that oversees the area? What do they say is the extent of their jurisdiction? -- Polaron | Talk 18:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I removed my question about climate because I looked in the wrong article - I see the climate graph is still in the city article. VisitorTalk 03:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Isn't the Las Vegas Metro Area one of the metros most affected by the current United States housing market correction & Subprime mortgage crisis? What is the effect of this on Las Vegas Metro's astronomical rate of population growth? Has it slowed down?-- Section8pidgeon ( talk) 11:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
As with most metropolitan pages, this page should really be structured around the defined Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA. This page doesn't even make mention to this government-defined area. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 10:27, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Someone should update that photo, being from 2006 which is ancient for the city. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 131.216.14.1 ( talk) 20:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
The article was changed a while ago to move the focus from the area surrounding the valley to the MSA. Other then the introduction, I don't believe that the rest of the article has followed. There are several possible reasons why the article probably has not reflected the into change including the fact that the MSA overlaps Clark County. If this article covers the MSA then we have two articles that cover the same area using different names. So is there any object to changing the lead to focus back on the valley area? Vegaswikian ( talk) 06:47, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
The first sentence in this section looks like this: "As of the census[6] of 2000, there were 1,375,765, 512,253 households, and 339,693 families residing within the MSA."
I'm sure "1,375,765" is supposed to have something else behind it besides the other numbers, but I'm not sure what it is. The way the sentence is now, it makes it seem like there is over a "trillion" households in the LVMA! Normstradamus ( talk) 01:08, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
At the beginnings of this article it was about the Valley as seen in the first version. Later in someone argued that since there was an official definition of a metropolitan area, Las Vegas-Paradise-Henderson Metropolitan Statistical Area, the article name should be changed to match. Now we have editors working to try and eliminate the focus on the valley. I don't think that expanding the focus of the article to all of Clark County and Pahrump would serve anyone. Maybe a reword of the introduction to put the focus back on the Valley and the suburbs would be the way to go. One could argue that the Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA and the valley have nothing in common other then the latter is within the boundaries of the former. And the former is within the even broader Las Vegas-Paradise-Pahrump, NV CSA. Given that the inclusion criteria for these government classifications can and does change at the whim of bureaucrats, it makes little sense to try and structure articles around these ignoring the geographic areas that exist naturally. At one time, these definitions actually included parts of Arizona.
So are there objections to resurrecting a Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA article and possibly renaming of this article back to Las Vegas Valley? Or is there a better solution? Vegaswikian ( talk) 18:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
I am interested in including the observations of this article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326187/Las-Vegas-tunnel-people-How-1-000-people-live-shimmering-strip.html Las Vegas tunnel people: How 1,000 people live under shimmering strip | Mail Online into the article. I think it would be under "communities".
There is coverage under : http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2651937/The-people-living-in-drains-below-Las-Vegas.html
Beneath the Neon: http://www.beneaththeneon.com/
Shine A Light: http://www.beneaththeneon.com/shine-a-light.asp
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/subterranean-home-of-las-vegass-losers-1786877.html
http://blogs.lasvegascitylife.com/cityblog/2009/03/25/homeless-outreach-goes-underground/
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I suggest a merge between Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA and Las Vegas Valley. These two pages are essentially about the same topic (Las Vegas metro area), just somewhat different definitions. The content at each page would compliment each other well, and the result would be better than both articles separately. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 02:57, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, hardly anyone said anything and I decided to be bold, so much for that. But the AfD crowd would rightly tell me where to shove it if I nominated, since AfD is not for merge proposals. Still, no good arguments from Vegaswikian that the Valley and metro area are genuinely different, and the huge territory covered by the census definition is hardly unique, but no other metro has separate pages. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 03:37, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Las Vegas metro area currently redirects to Las VegasâParadise, NV MSA. Merging Las Vegas Valley and Las VegasâParadise, NV MSA, and placing that article at Las Vegas metro area, makes sense.
The merged article at Las Vegas metro area should of course clarify what Las Vegas Valley and Las VegasâParadise, NV MSA each refer to, preferably in the intro. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 03:21, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout Images for one of the thousands of neighborhoods? An Audi from the auto show? So ***Many*** images. They go on longer than sections... they go on longer than entire article. At the least, it seems to me there are simply too many, and that if we need more than a few of these, they need to be piled into a gallery for those that are needed at all. I am not going to war over any of these (such as the one just re-added), but I argue most need to go, per the MoS. I encourage other editors who are interested to join the discussion. My thinking is that any image not directly tied to sourced content should go. Shajure ( talk) 21:38, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
I'd like to add that the images in this article focus on the Strip too much. I realize that is a huge part of Las Vegas, but this is about the Las Vegas Valley and there should be some more photos of Henderson, Summerlin, Green Valley, etc. Of the 45 total pictures in this article, 27 of the photos are about the Strip and casinos (Including the collage where 5 of the 7 are of the Strip). Seeing all the images here, one gets the impression that the Las Vegas Valley is made up mostly by casinos LasVegasLocal414 ( talk) 09:35, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
I believe this is a junk magnet. I did trim it down to those that had their own articles, though most of those look like real estate wp:advertising, and think they themselves need to go. Do we need the section at all? There was a proposed restore of the "some" in the section head... but lists are never never complete and accurate... there is no need to say so in each... "List of longest-lived humans" would not need to be "List of some of the longest-lived humans with a few errors and frauds" Shajure ( talk) 21:38, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
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Morning all. Since we already have an article on the metropolitan area of Las Vegas, having a separate one covering the specific counties of the US census agency seems like essentially duplication. I know that the census definition is a technical thing, but that could be covered easily enough in a section of the other article as I think we do for most metro areas. Thanks  â Amakuru ( talk) 07:48, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
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