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I think the largest gastropod ever is the [Campanile giganteum] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campanile_giganteum
The largest gastropod ever is not Placostylus. It was link Campanile giganteum— Preceding unsigned comment added by Black Dung ( talk • contribs) 11:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
The Giant Short-Faced Bear did NOT stand 10ft at the shoulder. Someone must have confused the bear's shoulder height with its standing height. According to its very own wikipedia article the largest males would have been a maximum 5ft. 3in. (Although, even this is dubious considering the lack of citations for the article.) Anyway, at least for the meantime I'm going change the height to the far more realistic 5ft. 3in. at the shoulder. 46.197.227.81 ( talk) 15:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oops, I forgot to sign... Gilly of III ( talk) 15:42, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Gah!!! I just read through more of the article and its full of mistakes and misinformation. Also, I just found out that the Giant Short-Faced Bear wasn't even the largest carnivore ever (Read "the largest carnivore extinct (and living)")in the first place, (at least of extant species) that would be the Elephant Seal. - How disheartening. I'm currently unsure as to which animal was the largest prehistoric carnivore. Anyway, whoever wrote this article needed to do more research. This entire article needs a massive cleanup in my opinion. Gilly of III ( talk) 16:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I keep hearing that Arctotherium angustidens actually weighed between 600-1000 kg and that the femur was overestimated, thus making it not the biggest land carnivores ever. Is this true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarsath3 ( talk • contribs) 03:16, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
The longest and heaviest theropod is estimated to be the Spinosaurus, at 15 to 17.4 metres (49.2 to 57.1 ft) in length and a weight of up to 9 tons. This is significantly more massive than other contenders such as the Giganotosaurus and Tyrannosaurus. Spinosaurus is notable for having been the largest terrestrial predator known to exist.
The longest and heaviest theropod known from a complete skeleton is the Tyrannosaurus specimen nicknamed " Sue", which was discovered in South Dakota in 1990 and is now mounted in the Field Museum of Chicago. It is 12.2 m (40 ft) long, and probably weighed 6,800 kg (6.8 tons).
The largest Cerapods were the hadrosaurids Zhuchengosaurus and Lambeosaurus laticaudus. Both species are known from fragmentary remains but are estimated to have reached over 15 m (50 ft) in length and weighed over 23 tonnes (50,700 lb).
The largest Ceratopsian was Triceratops. Triceratops is estimated to have reached about 8 m (26 ft) in length and weighed 6.1 tonnes (13,400 lb). The recently discovered Eotriceratops had a skull estimated to be longer than 3 m, and may have been larger than Triceratops.
Anguilliformes
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organisms without prehistoric taxa] looks like. Largest prehistoric organisms has a wider range of coverage that largaest organisms, including completely extinct hight taxa such as trilobites, and including invertebrates which largest organisms does not cover at all. Neather goes into depth on Plants and so neather actually fully fills the oraganism part of the name. I have removed the entries from LPO that are not in the scope of the article, namely recent extinctions caused by man (Dodo etc...). There are a couple of enties from LO that are beter referecned and should be integrated into LPO. The easy way to handle these to articles is to remove the prehistoric entries from largest organisms and have links to the related sections in each article. In other words "see also:largest extinct mammals" and "see also:largest living mammals" links in the heading of each mammal section along with a short segment of prose explaining the overall biggest member the group ever. This also shows that there is a large amount of informatio that shuld be researched and included into the LPO article for many groups what are no covered at all.--
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This is an explanation for my edit today regarding the giant Pliocene rorqual. The cited source Deméré 2005 says of Balaenoptera sibbaldina that "its recognition as a valid taxon is suspect" because there's no type specimen. The material clearly indicates a blue-whale sized animal, though, so it warrants inclusion here even if the name is doubtful. Cephal-odd ( talk) 17:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Livyatan was only 17.5m but also on the list, so why not Physeter? Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 11:46, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
It's fixed now. ~~ Ishan87 ( talk) 16:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
I made some changes to the Dinosauria section, all of which I'll summarize bellow.
Sauropoda: Removed mention of Bruhathkayosaurus as there are no actual published size estimates and there's uncertainty as if it even was a dinosaur; Added Futalognkosaurus and Puertasaurus.
Therapoda: Removed this line "There is some controversy upon determining the largest theropod that ever existed due to preservational bias of fossils." as is a inherent problem of all taxa known from only fossil material and its inclusion exclusively on the Therapoda section is unnecessary; removed Deinocheirus as recent estimates from Gregoy Pauls puts it at 10m and only 2tonnes /Paul, G.S., 2010, The Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs, Princeton University Press p. 112/ as well as Utahraptor as is not in the intend of the section to show the biggest member of every branch or family within Therapoda but the largest overall.
Cerapotsia: Removed mention of the old estimate of Eotriceratops, it now has the more recent estimate of 9m. — Preceding
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Cervalces latifrons is the largest deer (its antlers are smaller than those of Megaloceros giganteus). Sorry for my English^^... 77.201.134.13 ( d) March 3, 2013 at 21:04 (CET) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.201.134.232 ( talk) 20:04, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
You're right. On the Cervalces latifrons click here says Cervalces latifrons is twice as heavy as Megaloceros giganteus click here. I have no idea that why it is not on the page. Change it? Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 10:58, 14 October 2014 (UTC) I'll do that. Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 11:00, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Isn't there a unnamed ichthyosaur larger than Shastasaurus? It is up to 95 feet. Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 10:52, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Well, the 95 feet may be wrong, but I'm sure it is larger the Shastasaurus. I first saw it when a user in Carnivora forum made a top 10 heaviest prehistoric marine predators and someone gave a comment about the ichthyosaur. Okay, here's a link to the blog: http://carnivoraforum.com/blog/entry/3838574/41999/ The 95 feet I saw was in answers.com but it may be wrong. I more correct estimate may be 80 something. I don't know a lot about this ichthyosaur so I don't have too many sources. Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 07:16, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I found this topic: http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/10052873/24/ the ichthyosaur can kill Megalodon. I do disagree it was 40m and 300t! Impossible! It said that it should only be 30m-the length of a blue whale. And no creature will reach 300t to surpass the blue whale. The blue whale shall keep the heaviest. So I don't know the weight. Is this the larger than 95 feet you are talking? It is about 99 or 100 feet. Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 23:39, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
I just realized the disagree to 300t on the topic is wrong. I didn't read the bottom! It said it may have reached 533t. If it is only 30m, then 240t. Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 23:07, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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There is no reference cited for this entry. Additionally, most references (including Wikipedia itself)give this creature's size at around 70 cm, not a couple meters in length. If this is an upper estimate, it would be interesting to know from whence it came. The only reference I can find to a 2-meter long Stethacanthus is a page at the BBC, also uncited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.20.130.37 ( talk) 19:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
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What is the topic of this page supposed to be? The title says "prehistoric" but many of the animals listed are recently extinct, eg. the Norfolk Island Kaka, the Imperial woodpecker, and the Aurochs. If any recently extinct animal will do then perhaps the title should change. If only (sub)fossil animals were intended then perhaps the page contents should be pruned to reflect that. It feels like a bit of a free-for-all right now. 209.136.39.130 ( talk) 14:19, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I have no idea how to fix this, but the overview sits side by side by the article text which makes both almost impossible to read. If some one knows how to fix this my ocd would be grateful. Pussilago ( talk) 10:15, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
I leave this here :
(Sylviornis is an extinct genus of stem galliform bird containing a single species "New Caledonian giant megapode". Technically, the latter is incorrect because it has recently been found not to be a megapode, but one of two genera in the family Sylviornithidae; at the time of its description, it was believed to be a ratite. Sylviornis was never encountered alive by scientists, but it is known from many thousands of subfossil bones found in deposits, some of them from the Holocene, on New Caledonia and the adjacent Île des Pins. Recent morphological studies indicate that it was a sister taxon of Megavitiornis, in a clade outside of the Galliformes crown group)
This i copied from Sylviornis Page , However If this was correct than Sylviornis Is not related to Fowl and it's should be removed from here ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.36.21.79 ( talk) 20:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
There is a lot of "citation needed" addition on this list. But why add a citation when the name of the species is also a hyperlink, and a single click will lead you to the article which will contain the required citation? 46.212.103.44 ( talk) 03:18, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
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An extinct giant shark, Otodus megalodon [1] [2] [3] is by far the biggest mackerel shark ever known. [4] Most estimates of megalodon's size extrapolate from teeth, with maximum length estimates up to 10–20.3 meters (33–67 ft) [2] [3] [5] and average length estimates of 10.5 meters (34 ft). [6] [7] Due to fragmentary remains, there have been many contradictory size estimates for megalodon, as they can only be drawn from fossil teeth and vertebrae. [8]: 87 [9] Mature male megalodon may have had a body mass of 12.6 to 33.9 metric tons (13.9 to 37.4 short tons), and mature females may have been 27.4 to 59.4 metric tons (30.2 to 65.5 short tons), assuming that males could range in length from 10.5 to 14.3 meters (34 to 47 ft) and females 13.3 to 17 meters (44 to 56 ft). [10] | An extinct megatoothed shark, C. megalodon is by far the biggest mackerel shark and largest shark known. [11] This giant shark reached a total length of more than 16 m (52 ft). [12] [13] C. megalodon may have approached a maximum of 20.3 m (67 ft) in total length and 103 t (114 short tons) in mass. [14] |
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There seems to be a dispute. Perhaps those involved could explain why they think that their version is best.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Otodus or Carcharodon: Megalodon#Evolution says:
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@ Ishan87: In the light of the discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, please could you should explain why this revert of 14:51, 5 December 2021 was right. -- Toddy1 (talk) 15:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
@ DinosaursKing: Please can you explain here why you think that your revert of 15:03, 5 December 2021 was right. In fairness, your edit summary does help. (Undid revision 1058772571 by Ishan87. Well, how about that? Otodus megalodon. Average size adult Megalodon is larger than 16 meters, not 10.5 meters. And largest size Megalodon is 20.3 meters.) What do the sources cited actually say? One of them sources cited for the "average length of more than 16 m" says "Based on tooth crown height (CH), this giant reached a total length (TL) of more than 16 m." Note that it does not say average size, so it does not support the claim; it supports a claim that the maximum length was more than 16 m. It also has hedging phrase giving the basis of the estimated maximum total length.-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:11, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Look he changed back once again! The way he's claiming and average weight and weight of an extinct animal is simply unscientific. There are multiple estimations which keep updating based on newer more reliable studies. I used Megalodon's recent length and weight estimations, on the contrary he's using much earlier, outdated speculations of the animals size. His edits are clearly based on his own likings and not science. He also used too many spaces in the end for no reason. He definitely doesn't understand how Wikipedia works, so he should be banned from undoing people's hardwork, even though it's just one section in his case which's just sad. Ishan87 ( talk) 15:19, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
(Correction) Ishan87 ( talk) 15:21, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
I don't think he's ever going to respond though. I doubt he even knows how to respond here. Only thing he does is to undo other people's edits on that section. That's exactly why I want actions to be taken against him. Ishan87 ( talk) 15:28, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Toddy1: Well, I have many evidences can prove I'm right.
1)Average size adult Megalodon is not 10.5 meters. Is size of juvenile Megalodon. Yep, Juvenile Megalodon is 10.5 meters. https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/science/megalodon-shark-nursery-discovered/ “Our study suggests the specimens represent mostly juveniles with lengths between 2 and 10.5 meters,” https://cdn.britannica.com/51/200251-050-79878ECB/Studies-body-mass-megalodons-females-males-sharks.jpg http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/species/m/megalodon.html
2)Average size adult Megalodon is larger than 16 meters. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/03/world/megalodon-shark-scli-intl-gbr-scn/index.html
3)Megalodon maximum size is 20.3 meters. https://palaeo-electronica.org/content/2021/3284-estimating-lamniform-body-size DinosaursKing (talk) 16:11, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Ishan87:Well, because you wrong. You better to reread accurate knowledge sources which I showed you. DinosaursKing (talk) 17:04, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Toddy1: (1)Average size adult Megalodon is not 10.5 meters. Juvenile Megalodon is 10.5 meters. My accurate knowledge sources already show it. (2)Yes, average size adult Megalodon is larger than 16 meters. This source never said Megalodon maximum size is 16 meters. So, are this diver is tallest human? Well, I don't think so. (3)Yes,Megalodon maximum size is 20.3 meters. My accurate knowledge sources already show it. DinosaursKing (talk)
@ Toddy1:Well, you asked back again? Well, my accurate knowledge sources already show you. And you better to reread my accurate knowledge sources again. Yes. Average size adult Megalodon is not 10.5 meters. Juvenile Megalodon is 10.5 meters. Average size adult Megalodon is larger than 16 meters. Megalodon maximum size is 20.3 meters. If you have questions, then reread my accurate knowledge sources again. DinosaursKing (talk)
@DK just because you claim something doesn't make it accurate. Like I said, your links are useless unless those are accepted in the main page of Megalodon. So let go of your obsession with this one page and grow up for once. Ishan87 ( talk) 22:04, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
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I have replaced File:Megalodon scale.svg with File:Megalodon scale1.png in the article. I looked at the history in Commons and File:Megalodon scale.svg was created between 2013 and 2019 based on File:Megalodon scale1.png. File:Megalodon scale.svg appears to have been created to promote a POV about the size of Megalodon.-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:35, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Ishan87:Wow, page of Largest prehistoric animals and page of Megalodon are so terrible now. Well, again, my links are accurate knowledge sources. These sources are accurate for Megalodon. Is how sad you are doing wrong. Well, you better to stop your obsession and grow up for once. Got it? Kid? LOL DinosaursKing (talk) 08:19, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
@User:DinosaursKing Try trolling somewhere else. I'm not bothered even in the slightest by your childish behavior. Maybe you should keep your opinion to yourself. Trying to abuse or insult others might cost you a permanent ban, so be warned. Ishan87 ( talk) 09:32, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Ishan87:Well, kid, you made Wikipedia so terrible now, so don't doing your childish behavior in Wikipedia and anywhere next time. And again, you better to stop your obsession and grow up for once, don't make any trouble. OK? Kid? DinosaursKing (talk) 08:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
I really don't see the point in demanding citations behind every animal if this information is already available on the article about the animal. All these "citation needed" were added by someone calling himself "ComicsAreJustAllRight", an editor that was rightfully blocked indefinitely for following reason: "it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia". I'm mentioning this because anyone who have added information only to see it removed should try to add it again, this time without anyone interfering unless there is a good reason for it. First he adds "citation needed", and when people really do add citations and also fill in with further information, he would often revert the edit because in his eyes it was "poorly written". You know, instead of making a little effort and rewrite it himself rather than undoing everything. Including removing the citations he demanded in the first place when the problem (again, in his eyes) was "poor wording" and not the sources that supported the information! And in case there are similar editors that's still around, one could try and contact some administator if they behave in a similar manner. Just mentioning it. 46.212.117.57 ( talk) 08:38, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Having quickly skimmed through this article, it seems that a lot of its sources are unreliable, and its information often times outdated. Perhaps a rework is in order? -- TimTheDragonRider ( talk) 11:59, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Ta-tea-two-te-to: MOS:HEADINGS says that section headings should not contain wikilinks.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:00, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Currently, for some animals the article is giving weights in tonnes and short tons. A short ton is significantly less than an avoirdupois ton. It looks wrong saying that a Freda is 5.5 t (6.1 short tons). One solution is to spell out tonne: 5.5 tonnes (6.1 short tons). Another solution is not to convert to short tons, and convert to a more universal measure such as pounds: 5.5 t (12,000 lb). Do people prefer pounds or short tons? I suspect that pounds would be better.
There are also some things where the avoisdupois measure is first. This looks odd in an article where the decimal measure is generally first. There is an |order=flip command, that produces the following from an input figure of 12000 lb: 5.4 t (12,000 lb).-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:43, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
I really wanted to add " Giant of Castelnau" here but sources are very old so it is likely a hoax. Are there any confirmed huge ancient anatomically modern humans? Xiphactinus88 ( talk) 16:25, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
No, there are no other sauropods that could exceed argentinosaurus in size, why? Because argentinosaurus is in fact the largest sauropod and in extension the largest land animal of all time. stop saying that there are other sauropods that're bigger than argentinosaurus, like seriously patagotitan is smaller than argentinosaurus and even if there are sauropods that're longer and taller they're still not larger than argentinosaurus. This same goes for tyrannosaurus, like no, no other theropods that could exceed tyrannosaurus in size, why? Because tyrannosaurus is in fact the largest theropod and in extension the largest terrestrial carnivore of all time. Just stop it, dinosaur size, overall, is determined by mass, not length and not height. tyrannosaurus is larger than both Giganotosaurus and Spinosaurus because it's the truth. Touch some grass ( talk) 04:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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I think the largest gastropod ever is the [Campanile giganteum] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campanile_giganteum
The largest gastropod ever is not Placostylus. It was link Campanile giganteum— Preceding unsigned comment added by Black Dung ( talk • contribs) 11:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
The Giant Short-Faced Bear did NOT stand 10ft at the shoulder. Someone must have confused the bear's shoulder height with its standing height. According to its very own wikipedia article the largest males would have been a maximum 5ft. 3in. (Although, even this is dubious considering the lack of citations for the article.) Anyway, at least for the meantime I'm going change the height to the far more realistic 5ft. 3in. at the shoulder. 46.197.227.81 ( talk) 15:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oops, I forgot to sign... Gilly of III ( talk) 15:42, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Gah!!! I just read through more of the article and its full of mistakes and misinformation. Also, I just found out that the Giant Short-Faced Bear wasn't even the largest carnivore ever (Read "the largest carnivore extinct (and living)")in the first place, (at least of extant species) that would be the Elephant Seal. - How disheartening. I'm currently unsure as to which animal was the largest prehistoric carnivore. Anyway, whoever wrote this article needed to do more research. This entire article needs a massive cleanup in my opinion. Gilly of III ( talk) 16:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I keep hearing that Arctotherium angustidens actually weighed between 600-1000 kg and that the femur was overestimated, thus making it not the biggest land carnivores ever. Is this true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarsath3 ( talk • contribs) 03:16, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
The longest and heaviest theropod is estimated to be the Spinosaurus, at 15 to 17.4 metres (49.2 to 57.1 ft) in length and a weight of up to 9 tons. This is significantly more massive than other contenders such as the Giganotosaurus and Tyrannosaurus. Spinosaurus is notable for having been the largest terrestrial predator known to exist.
The longest and heaviest theropod known from a complete skeleton is the Tyrannosaurus specimen nicknamed " Sue", which was discovered in South Dakota in 1990 and is now mounted in the Field Museum of Chicago. It is 12.2 m (40 ft) long, and probably weighed 6,800 kg (6.8 tons).
The largest Cerapods were the hadrosaurids Zhuchengosaurus and Lambeosaurus laticaudus. Both species are known from fragmentary remains but are estimated to have reached over 15 m (50 ft) in length and weighed over 23 tonnes (50,700 lb).
The largest Ceratopsian was Triceratops. Triceratops is estimated to have reached about 8 m (26 ft) in length and weighed 6.1 tonnes (13,400 lb). The recently discovered Eotriceratops had a skull estimated to be longer than 3 m, and may have been larger than Triceratops.
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organisms without prehistoric taxa] looks like. Largest prehistoric organisms has a wider range of coverage that largaest organisms, including completely extinct hight taxa such as trilobites, and including invertebrates which largest organisms does not cover at all. Neather goes into depth on Plants and so neather actually fully fills the oraganism part of the name. I have removed the entries from LPO that are not in the scope of the article, namely recent extinctions caused by man (Dodo etc...). There are a couple of enties from LO that are beter referecned and should be integrated into LPO. The easy way to handle these to articles is to remove the prehistoric entries from largest organisms and have links to the related sections in each article. In other words "see also:largest extinct mammals" and "see also:largest living mammals" links in the heading of each mammal section along with a short segment of prose explaining the overall biggest member the group ever. This also shows that there is a large amount of informatio that shuld be researched and included into the LPO article for many groups what are no covered at all.--
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This is an explanation for my edit today regarding the giant Pliocene rorqual. The cited source Deméré 2005 says of Balaenoptera sibbaldina that "its recognition as a valid taxon is suspect" because there's no type specimen. The material clearly indicates a blue-whale sized animal, though, so it warrants inclusion here even if the name is doubtful. Cephal-odd ( talk) 17:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Livyatan was only 17.5m but also on the list, so why not Physeter? Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 11:46, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
It's fixed now. ~~ Ishan87 ( talk) 16:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
I made some changes to the Dinosauria section, all of which I'll summarize bellow.
Sauropoda: Removed mention of Bruhathkayosaurus as there are no actual published size estimates and there's uncertainty as if it even was a dinosaur; Added Futalognkosaurus and Puertasaurus.
Therapoda: Removed this line "There is some controversy upon determining the largest theropod that ever existed due to preservational bias of fossils." as is a inherent problem of all taxa known from only fossil material and its inclusion exclusively on the Therapoda section is unnecessary; removed Deinocheirus as recent estimates from Gregoy Pauls puts it at 10m and only 2tonnes /Paul, G.S., 2010, The Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs, Princeton University Press p. 112/ as well as Utahraptor as is not in the intend of the section to show the biggest member of every branch or family within Therapoda but the largest overall.
Cerapotsia: Removed mention of the old estimate of Eotriceratops, it now has the more recent estimate of 9m. — Preceding
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Cervalces latifrons is the largest deer (its antlers are smaller than those of Megaloceros giganteus). Sorry for my English^^... 77.201.134.13 ( d) March 3, 2013 at 21:04 (CET) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.201.134.232 ( talk) 20:04, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
You're right. On the Cervalces latifrons click here says Cervalces latifrons is twice as heavy as Megaloceros giganteus click here. I have no idea that why it is not on the page. Change it? Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 10:58, 14 October 2014 (UTC) I'll do that. Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 11:00, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Isn't there a unnamed ichthyosaur larger than Shastasaurus? It is up to 95 feet. Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 10:52, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Well, the 95 feet may be wrong, but I'm sure it is larger the Shastasaurus. I first saw it when a user in Carnivora forum made a top 10 heaviest prehistoric marine predators and someone gave a comment about the ichthyosaur. Okay, here's a link to the blog: http://carnivoraforum.com/blog/entry/3838574/41999/ The 95 feet I saw was in answers.com but it may be wrong. I more correct estimate may be 80 something. I don't know a lot about this ichthyosaur so I don't have too many sources. Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 07:16, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I found this topic: http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/10052873/24/ the ichthyosaur can kill Megalodon. I do disagree it was 40m and 300t! Impossible! It said that it should only be 30m-the length of a blue whale. And no creature will reach 300t to surpass the blue whale. The blue whale shall keep the heaviest. So I don't know the weight. Is this the larger than 95 feet you are talking? It is about 99 or 100 feet. Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 23:39, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
I just realized the disagree to 300t on the topic is wrong. I didn't read the bottom! It said it may have reached 533t. If it is only 30m, then 240t. Dinosaur Fan ( talk) 23:07, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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There is no reference cited for this entry. Additionally, most references (including Wikipedia itself)give this creature's size at around 70 cm, not a couple meters in length. If this is an upper estimate, it would be interesting to know from whence it came. The only reference I can find to a 2-meter long Stethacanthus is a page at the BBC, also uncited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.20.130.37 ( talk) 19:17, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
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Leo1pard ( talk) 17:19, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
What is the topic of this page supposed to be? The title says "prehistoric" but many of the animals listed are recently extinct, eg. the Norfolk Island Kaka, the Imperial woodpecker, and the Aurochs. If any recently extinct animal will do then perhaps the title should change. If only (sub)fossil animals were intended then perhaps the page contents should be pruned to reflect that. It feels like a bit of a free-for-all right now. 209.136.39.130 ( talk) 14:19, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I have no idea how to fix this, but the overview sits side by side by the article text which makes both almost impossible to read. If some one knows how to fix this my ocd would be grateful. Pussilago ( talk) 10:15, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
I leave this here :
(Sylviornis is an extinct genus of stem galliform bird containing a single species "New Caledonian giant megapode". Technically, the latter is incorrect because it has recently been found not to be a megapode, but one of two genera in the family Sylviornithidae; at the time of its description, it was believed to be a ratite. Sylviornis was never encountered alive by scientists, but it is known from many thousands of subfossil bones found in deposits, some of them from the Holocene, on New Caledonia and the adjacent Île des Pins. Recent morphological studies indicate that it was a sister taxon of Megavitiornis, in a clade outside of the Galliformes crown group)
This i copied from Sylviornis Page , However If this was correct than Sylviornis Is not related to Fowl and it's should be removed from here ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.36.21.79 ( talk) 20:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
There is a lot of "citation needed" addition on this list. But why add a citation when the name of the species is also a hyperlink, and a single click will lead you to the article which will contain the required citation? 46.212.103.44 ( talk) 03:18, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
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An extinct giant shark, Otodus megalodon [1] [2] [3] is by far the biggest mackerel shark ever known. [4] Most estimates of megalodon's size extrapolate from teeth, with maximum length estimates up to 10–20.3 meters (33–67 ft) [2] [3] [5] and average length estimates of 10.5 meters (34 ft). [6] [7] Due to fragmentary remains, there have been many contradictory size estimates for megalodon, as they can only be drawn from fossil teeth and vertebrae. [8]: 87 [9] Mature male megalodon may have had a body mass of 12.6 to 33.9 metric tons (13.9 to 37.4 short tons), and mature females may have been 27.4 to 59.4 metric tons (30.2 to 65.5 short tons), assuming that males could range in length from 10.5 to 14.3 meters (34 to 47 ft) and females 13.3 to 17 meters (44 to 56 ft). [10] | An extinct megatoothed shark, C. megalodon is by far the biggest mackerel shark and largest shark known. [11] This giant shark reached a total length of more than 16 m (52 ft). [12] [13] C. megalodon may have approached a maximum of 20.3 m (67 ft) in total length and 103 t (114 short tons) in mass. [14] |
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There seems to be a dispute. Perhaps those involved could explain why they think that their version is best.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Otodus or Carcharodon: Megalodon#Evolution says:
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@ Ishan87: In the light of the discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, please could you should explain why this revert of 14:51, 5 December 2021 was right. -- Toddy1 (talk) 15:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
@ DinosaursKing: Please can you explain here why you think that your revert of 15:03, 5 December 2021 was right. In fairness, your edit summary does help. (Undid revision 1058772571 by Ishan87. Well, how about that? Otodus megalodon. Average size adult Megalodon is larger than 16 meters, not 10.5 meters. And largest size Megalodon is 20.3 meters.) What do the sources cited actually say? One of them sources cited for the "average length of more than 16 m" says "Based on tooth crown height (CH), this giant reached a total length (TL) of more than 16 m." Note that it does not say average size, so it does not support the claim; it supports a claim that the maximum length was more than 16 m. It also has hedging phrase giving the basis of the estimated maximum total length.-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:11, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Look he changed back once again! The way he's claiming and average weight and weight of an extinct animal is simply unscientific. There are multiple estimations which keep updating based on newer more reliable studies. I used Megalodon's recent length and weight estimations, on the contrary he's using much earlier, outdated speculations of the animals size. His edits are clearly based on his own likings and not science. He also used too many spaces in the end for no reason. He definitely doesn't understand how Wikipedia works, so he should be banned from undoing people's hardwork, even though it's just one section in his case which's just sad. Ishan87 ( talk) 15:19, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
(Correction) Ishan87 ( talk) 15:21, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
I don't think he's ever going to respond though. I doubt he even knows how to respond here. Only thing he does is to undo other people's edits on that section. That's exactly why I want actions to be taken against him. Ishan87 ( talk) 15:28, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Toddy1: Well, I have many evidences can prove I'm right.
1)Average size adult Megalodon is not 10.5 meters. Is size of juvenile Megalodon. Yep, Juvenile Megalodon is 10.5 meters. https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/science/megalodon-shark-nursery-discovered/ “Our study suggests the specimens represent mostly juveniles with lengths between 2 and 10.5 meters,” https://cdn.britannica.com/51/200251-050-79878ECB/Studies-body-mass-megalodons-females-males-sharks.jpg http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/species/m/megalodon.html
2)Average size adult Megalodon is larger than 16 meters. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/03/world/megalodon-shark-scli-intl-gbr-scn/index.html
3)Megalodon maximum size is 20.3 meters. https://palaeo-electronica.org/content/2021/3284-estimating-lamniform-body-size DinosaursKing (talk) 16:11, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Ishan87:Well, because you wrong. You better to reread accurate knowledge sources which I showed you. DinosaursKing (talk) 17:04, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Toddy1: (1)Average size adult Megalodon is not 10.5 meters. Juvenile Megalodon is 10.5 meters. My accurate knowledge sources already show it. (2)Yes, average size adult Megalodon is larger than 16 meters. This source never said Megalodon maximum size is 16 meters. So, are this diver is tallest human? Well, I don't think so. (3)Yes,Megalodon maximum size is 20.3 meters. My accurate knowledge sources already show it. DinosaursKing (talk)
@ Toddy1:Well, you asked back again? Well, my accurate knowledge sources already show you. And you better to reread my accurate knowledge sources again. Yes. Average size adult Megalodon is not 10.5 meters. Juvenile Megalodon is 10.5 meters. Average size adult Megalodon is larger than 16 meters. Megalodon maximum size is 20.3 meters. If you have questions, then reread my accurate knowledge sources again. DinosaursKing (talk)
@DK just because you claim something doesn't make it accurate. Like I said, your links are useless unless those are accepted in the main page of Megalodon. So let go of your obsession with this one page and grow up for once. Ishan87 ( talk) 22:04, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
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I have replaced File:Megalodon scale.svg with File:Megalodon scale1.png in the article. I looked at the history in Commons and File:Megalodon scale.svg was created between 2013 and 2019 based on File:Megalodon scale1.png. File:Megalodon scale.svg appears to have been created to promote a POV about the size of Megalodon.-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:35, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Ishan87:Wow, page of Largest prehistoric animals and page of Megalodon are so terrible now. Well, again, my links are accurate knowledge sources. These sources are accurate for Megalodon. Is how sad you are doing wrong. Well, you better to stop your obsession and grow up for once. Got it? Kid? LOL DinosaursKing (talk) 08:19, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
@User:DinosaursKing Try trolling somewhere else. I'm not bothered even in the slightest by your childish behavior. Maybe you should keep your opinion to yourself. Trying to abuse or insult others might cost you a permanent ban, so be warned. Ishan87 ( talk) 09:32, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
@ Ishan87:Well, kid, you made Wikipedia so terrible now, so don't doing your childish behavior in Wikipedia and anywhere next time. And again, you better to stop your obsession and grow up for once, don't make any trouble. OK? Kid? DinosaursKing (talk) 08:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
I really don't see the point in demanding citations behind every animal if this information is already available on the article about the animal. All these "citation needed" were added by someone calling himself "ComicsAreJustAllRight", an editor that was rightfully blocked indefinitely for following reason: "it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia". I'm mentioning this because anyone who have added information only to see it removed should try to add it again, this time without anyone interfering unless there is a good reason for it. First he adds "citation needed", and when people really do add citations and also fill in with further information, he would often revert the edit because in his eyes it was "poorly written". You know, instead of making a little effort and rewrite it himself rather than undoing everything. Including removing the citations he demanded in the first place when the problem (again, in his eyes) was "poor wording" and not the sources that supported the information! And in case there are similar editors that's still around, one could try and contact some administator if they behave in a similar manner. Just mentioning it. 46.212.117.57 ( talk) 08:38, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Having quickly skimmed through this article, it seems that a lot of its sources are unreliable, and its information often times outdated. Perhaps a rework is in order? -- TimTheDragonRider ( talk) 11:59, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Ta-tea-two-te-to: MOS:HEADINGS says that section headings should not contain wikilinks.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:00, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Currently, for some animals the article is giving weights in tonnes and short tons. A short ton is significantly less than an avoirdupois ton. It looks wrong saying that a Freda is 5.5 t (6.1 short tons). One solution is to spell out tonne: 5.5 tonnes (6.1 short tons). Another solution is not to convert to short tons, and convert to a more universal measure such as pounds: 5.5 t (12,000 lb). Do people prefer pounds or short tons? I suspect that pounds would be better.
There are also some things where the avoisdupois measure is first. This looks odd in an article where the decimal measure is generally first. There is an |order=flip command, that produces the following from an input figure of 12000 lb: 5.4 t (12,000 lb).-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:43, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
I really wanted to add " Giant of Castelnau" here but sources are very old so it is likely a hoax. Are there any confirmed huge ancient anatomically modern humans? Xiphactinus88 ( talk) 16:25, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
No, there are no other sauropods that could exceed argentinosaurus in size, why? Because argentinosaurus is in fact the largest sauropod and in extension the largest land animal of all time. stop saying that there are other sauropods that're bigger than argentinosaurus, like seriously patagotitan is smaller than argentinosaurus and even if there are sauropods that're longer and taller they're still not larger than argentinosaurus. This same goes for tyrannosaurus, like no, no other theropods that could exceed tyrannosaurus in size, why? Because tyrannosaurus is in fact the largest theropod and in extension the largest terrestrial carnivore of all time. Just stop it, dinosaur size, overall, is determined by mass, not length and not height. tyrannosaurus is larger than both Giganotosaurus and Spinosaurus because it's the truth. Touch some grass ( talk) 04:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC)