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Very pro-Flemish article : most walloons did not understand French either in the 1830s, they would also be tried without understanding all the proceedings... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.143.217.66 ( talk) 22:22, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
This article needed to be written. It is a translation of the Dutch article on WP. It shows up the POV of the Flemings only and need to be reviewed by Belgian French-speaking editors. Adding well-balanced references is an urgent task which need to be done. Both tags should stay there until both points get addressed. Vb 15:03, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello - I am neither French nor Dutch speaking and I am not Belgian. However, I do detect a distinct bias against Belgian French-language speakers in this article that I believe must be addressed. While I understand and believe that the Dutch-speaking peoples of Belgium were subject to linguistic discrimination by what was then the French-speaking elite of the country. I am equally certain that there was a point of view from their side that should be reflected in these articles.
More importantly, my understanding that the dispute today has resulted in unfairnesses against both linguistic populations. The current situation deserves (and readers should demand) a greater level of ballance and fairness when speaking of this conflict today.
It is shameful that either side should use Wikipedia to continue this conflict. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.245.21.175 ( talk) 15:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
The linguistic tensions of Belgium are a historic fact. Language legislation was (and is) required to "create a level playing field." In order for the reader to fully understand the Belgian condition there must be an explanation as to why the field was not even. You may be uncomfortable with the labels (French, Flemish, Dutch) but how else will the reader be informed? If the article was about Cival Rights legislation in America in the 1960's, it would require historic background. The uninformed reader would need to be informed of the horrific status of a segment of American society that led to the changes in Law.-- Buster7 ( talk) 14:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
This discussion has been dormant for over two years now. Since 16/08/2007 Vb has neglected to specify which sections are POV, nor has he made changes to the article. I have left him a message, in order to remind him of this tag.-- 91.181.192.228 ( talk) 16:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
I've added some references, and I will continue in the days to come.-- Btsz ( talk) 23:19, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
The last section represents the Flemish POV only. The facts may be true but must be counterbalanced with French-speaking POV. The French-speakers have also the feeling their rights are not respected. 93.193.121.184 ( talk) 09:49, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I've removed the POV tag, since the IP user didn't elaborate. I've also deleted a major part of the second paragraph ("and about the fact that municipalities with language facilities in the French-speaking language area in some instances do not respect the language freedom of their Dutch-speaking inhabitants. Thus, for example, Comines-Warneton (here) has no Dutch web site, although Mouscron (here) and Enghien (here) have one. In any case, all Dutch municipalities with facilities: Mesen, Spiere-Helkijn, Ronse, Bever, Wemmel, Drogenbos, Linkebeek, Sint-Genesius-Rode (on = vlaanderen.be), Wezembeek-Oppem, Kraainem and Voeren have a bilingual site, and sometimes also offer information in English. The municipality of Herstappe with only a hundred inhabitants, has no web site yet."), since there is no source that supports that this leads / lead to tensions.-- Btsz ( talk) 09:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC) This excellent Wikipedia article show that a reasonable, healthy competitors between state languages always give a positive impulse for the Vollkswitschaft for politics as well as for the Geselschaft (the Beispielle show us the Schwitzer country and the Russian Federation) .What language, the elite who nation Suggest a better condition's for the country and for the country population, this language is gehert of Vollksmehrheit, fined and spread by itself the aslo show us the experiences Bureau "N" and Bureau "F" of the Royal prosecution and the judiciary, -. courts for francophon's / courts for niderlandofon's, etc. Unfortunately, foreign powers to try it again this peaceful intilektueler - kultureler competitors - to verscherfen conflict to transfer to another Dimensieon. And, generate political benefits. Just as in the case ... Yes, e.g. So as to downgrade the country in International Rayting happened on AAB level. On the other hand. Exestieren a small group of language effectively - Fanat's. As Tiffosi on Football Arena. This made peep and pipe. They want "a goal in the Belgian football goal posts". Compatriot Belgë ( talk) 17:51, 8 December 2014 (UTC) So, even in recent times. On Place du Jeu de Balle, 23, Brussels. Attacked unknowns not - the Niderlandofonen is Flemish Charity garnishing "Buurthuis". Battered showcase, verbal degradations of staff is Flemish. Vriend23456789 ( talk) 15:47, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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Very pro-Flemish article : most walloons did not understand French either in the 1830s, they would also be tried without understanding all the proceedings... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.143.217.66 ( talk) 22:22, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
This article needed to be written. It is a translation of the Dutch article on WP. It shows up the POV of the Flemings only and need to be reviewed by Belgian French-speaking editors. Adding well-balanced references is an urgent task which need to be done. Both tags should stay there until both points get addressed. Vb 15:03, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello - I am neither French nor Dutch speaking and I am not Belgian. However, I do detect a distinct bias against Belgian French-language speakers in this article that I believe must be addressed. While I understand and believe that the Dutch-speaking peoples of Belgium were subject to linguistic discrimination by what was then the French-speaking elite of the country. I am equally certain that there was a point of view from their side that should be reflected in these articles.
More importantly, my understanding that the dispute today has resulted in unfairnesses against both linguistic populations. The current situation deserves (and readers should demand) a greater level of ballance and fairness when speaking of this conflict today.
It is shameful that either side should use Wikipedia to continue this conflict. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.245.21.175 ( talk) 15:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
The linguistic tensions of Belgium are a historic fact. Language legislation was (and is) required to "create a level playing field." In order for the reader to fully understand the Belgian condition there must be an explanation as to why the field was not even. You may be uncomfortable with the labels (French, Flemish, Dutch) but how else will the reader be informed? If the article was about Cival Rights legislation in America in the 1960's, it would require historic background. The uninformed reader would need to be informed of the horrific status of a segment of American society that led to the changes in Law.-- Buster7 ( talk) 14:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
This discussion has been dormant for over two years now. Since 16/08/2007 Vb has neglected to specify which sections are POV, nor has he made changes to the article. I have left him a message, in order to remind him of this tag.-- 91.181.192.228 ( talk) 16:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
I've added some references, and I will continue in the days to come.-- Btsz ( talk) 23:19, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
The last section represents the Flemish POV only. The facts may be true but must be counterbalanced with French-speaking POV. The French-speakers have also the feeling their rights are not respected. 93.193.121.184 ( talk) 09:49, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I've removed the POV tag, since the IP user didn't elaborate. I've also deleted a major part of the second paragraph ("and about the fact that municipalities with language facilities in the French-speaking language area in some instances do not respect the language freedom of their Dutch-speaking inhabitants. Thus, for example, Comines-Warneton (here) has no Dutch web site, although Mouscron (here) and Enghien (here) have one. In any case, all Dutch municipalities with facilities: Mesen, Spiere-Helkijn, Ronse, Bever, Wemmel, Drogenbos, Linkebeek, Sint-Genesius-Rode (on = vlaanderen.be), Wezembeek-Oppem, Kraainem and Voeren have a bilingual site, and sometimes also offer information in English. The municipality of Herstappe with only a hundred inhabitants, has no web site yet."), since there is no source that supports that this leads / lead to tensions.-- Btsz ( talk) 09:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC) This excellent Wikipedia article show that a reasonable, healthy competitors between state languages always give a positive impulse for the Vollkswitschaft for politics as well as for the Geselschaft (the Beispielle show us the Schwitzer country and the Russian Federation) .What language, the elite who nation Suggest a better condition's for the country and for the country population, this language is gehert of Vollksmehrheit, fined and spread by itself the aslo show us the experiences Bureau "N" and Bureau "F" of the Royal prosecution and the judiciary, -. courts for francophon's / courts for niderlandofon's, etc. Unfortunately, foreign powers to try it again this peaceful intilektueler - kultureler competitors - to verscherfen conflict to transfer to another Dimensieon. And, generate political benefits. Just as in the case ... Yes, e.g. So as to downgrade the country in International Rayting happened on AAB level. On the other hand. Exestieren a small group of language effectively - Fanat's. As Tiffosi on Football Arena. This made peep and pipe. They want "a goal in the Belgian football goal posts". Compatriot Belgë ( talk) 17:51, 8 December 2014 (UTC) So, even in recent times. On Place du Jeu de Balle, 23, Brussels. Attacked unknowns not - the Niderlandofonen is Flemish Charity garnishing "Buurthuis". Battered showcase, verbal degradations of staff is Flemish. Vriend23456789 ( talk) 15:47, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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