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As SpaceX is building up to land their first booster at Vandenberg tomorrow, we should add LZ-4 into this article. The only major reference that can be cited for the name is Vandenberg AFB's website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XXBuilderXx ( talk • contribs) 03:32, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
This user is from 2019, and SpaceX has used LZ-4! Added some information about it. I think this Wikipedia page should be named SpaceX Landing Zones to include LZ-4. (see the discussion below) 173.52.238.41 ( talk) 04:21, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
We probably have too many citations supporting single points in this article. For example, does the first sentence really need 8 citations from separate sources? It's not as if anything in this article was sufficiently controversial to need this many citations. Two, three, even four would be fine, but eight? -- The Anome ( talk) 14:56, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
An editor recently changed the name in the body of the article to "Landing Complex 1." The press kit for the CRS-9 mission still refers to it as "Landing Zone 1":
http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/spacex_crs9_press_kit.pdf
Is there any source for the change?-- agr ( talk) 15:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
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This being an encyclopedia, the article needs a bit of History, and not merely landing history. When was it built? Why? By whom? How paid for? How many pads at first? (A: 1) How many being built now? (not sure, but I've seen in press articles that more pads are coming). Damage and rebuild? Etc.
In short, seems the article could be improved a bit with more sources and an overview of the History of the idea, the construction, various phases, etc. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 03:35, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus on the move. ( closed by non-admin page mover) B dash ( talk) 14:24, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Landing Zones 1 and 2 →
SpaceX Landing Zones – May want to update title to reflect the use of LZ-4, reflecting a change. For Citations see this page
173.52.238.41 (
talk) 04:29, 11 February 2019 (UTC)--Relisting.
Dekimasu
よ! 04:35, 18 February 2019 (UTC)--Relisting.
B dash (
talk) 14:52, 25 February 2019 (UTC)--Relisting.
SITH
(talk)
21:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
(UTC)
//just a note 173.52.238.41 and OkayKenji are the same user, one time was logged in another time not logged in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OkayKenji ( talk • contribs) 05:47, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Landing Zones 1 and 2 → SpaceX Landing Zones – I mean SpaceX does use three Landing Zones now, just saying LZ-1 and LZ-2 does not reflect the content of the article. Also creating an article just for LZ-4 does not seem significant enough.(not really controversial, more like updating title to reflect recent changes. ) 173.52.238.41 ( talk) 04:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
So in summery I (who proposed the new title and combining the ideas here) think we should:
-keep the title as it is, just add "SpaceX" to it ("SpaceX Landing Zones 1 and 2) (Idea from 188.143.76.152)
-remove all references of LC-4 I -> I'm willing to do that (173.52.238.41) (Idea from 70.51.201.106)
-instead just put it in the "See Also" section linking to this article
Vandenberg AFB Space Launch Complex 4.
-Creating
List of SpaceX Landing Zones (or editing
SpaceX Landing Zone) (Idea from 70.51.201.106)
-Remove redirect SpaceX Landing Zones
Any other ideas? Thanks for all your help so far in this! Going to be signed off for a few hour, will check on this discussion later. :) 173.52.238.41 ( talk) 06:41, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
This move request has become confusing due to the various assumptions and proposals floating around, as well as intervening edits. Let me try to summarize the current status:
Recently, information about LZ-4 was added to this article, and in parallel the renaming proposal was started. From the ensuing discussion, there are two options on the table:
If the title is changed, there seems to be consensus that "landing zone" should be spelled in lowercase per MOS:CAPS. Would editors kindly choose their preferred option? Pinging all participants @ Anthony Appleyard, OkayKenji, SMcCandlish, Tony1, and UnknownM1: for comments. — JFG talk 16:22, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Why is there a note in the infobox stating '---Falcon Heavy(s) counts as one attempt---'
If both side boosters of a Falcon heavy attempt to land on the pad, should it not count as two attempts - one attempt per booster? AmigaClone ( talk) 12:04, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
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As SpaceX is building up to land their first booster at Vandenberg tomorrow, we should add LZ-4 into this article. The only major reference that can be cited for the name is Vandenberg AFB's website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XXBuilderXx ( talk • contribs) 03:32, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
This user is from 2019, and SpaceX has used LZ-4! Added some information about it. I think this Wikipedia page should be named SpaceX Landing Zones to include LZ-4. (see the discussion below) 173.52.238.41 ( talk) 04:21, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
We probably have too many citations supporting single points in this article. For example, does the first sentence really need 8 citations from separate sources? It's not as if anything in this article was sufficiently controversial to need this many citations. Two, three, even four would be fine, but eight? -- The Anome ( talk) 14:56, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
An editor recently changed the name in the body of the article to "Landing Complex 1." The press kit for the CRS-9 mission still refers to it as "Landing Zone 1":
http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/spacex_crs9_press_kit.pdf
Is there any source for the change?-- agr ( talk) 15:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
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This being an encyclopedia, the article needs a bit of History, and not merely landing history. When was it built? Why? By whom? How paid for? How many pads at first? (A: 1) How many being built now? (not sure, but I've seen in press articles that more pads are coming). Damage and rebuild? Etc.
In short, seems the article could be improved a bit with more sources and an overview of the History of the idea, the construction, various phases, etc. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 03:35, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus on the move. ( closed by non-admin page mover) B dash ( talk) 14:24, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Landing Zones 1 and 2 →
SpaceX Landing Zones – May want to update title to reflect the use of LZ-4, reflecting a change. For Citations see this page
173.52.238.41 (
talk) 04:29, 11 February 2019 (UTC)--Relisting.
Dekimasu
よ! 04:35, 18 February 2019 (UTC)--Relisting.
B dash (
talk) 14:52, 25 February 2019 (UTC)--Relisting.
SITH
(talk)
21:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
(UTC)
//just a note 173.52.238.41 and OkayKenji are the same user, one time was logged in another time not logged in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OkayKenji ( talk • contribs) 05:47, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Landing Zones 1 and 2 → SpaceX Landing Zones – I mean SpaceX does use three Landing Zones now, just saying LZ-1 and LZ-2 does not reflect the content of the article. Also creating an article just for LZ-4 does not seem significant enough.(not really controversial, more like updating title to reflect recent changes. ) 173.52.238.41 ( talk) 04:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
So in summery I (who proposed the new title and combining the ideas here) think we should:
-keep the title as it is, just add "SpaceX" to it ("SpaceX Landing Zones 1 and 2) (Idea from 188.143.76.152)
-remove all references of LC-4 I -> I'm willing to do that (173.52.238.41) (Idea from 70.51.201.106)
-instead just put it in the "See Also" section linking to this article
Vandenberg AFB Space Launch Complex 4.
-Creating
List of SpaceX Landing Zones (or editing
SpaceX Landing Zone) (Idea from 70.51.201.106)
-Remove redirect SpaceX Landing Zones
Any other ideas? Thanks for all your help so far in this! Going to be signed off for a few hour, will check on this discussion later. :) 173.52.238.41 ( talk) 06:41, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
This move request has become confusing due to the various assumptions and proposals floating around, as well as intervening edits. Let me try to summarize the current status:
Recently, information about LZ-4 was added to this article, and in parallel the renaming proposal was started. From the ensuing discussion, there are two options on the table:
If the title is changed, there seems to be consensus that "landing zone" should be spelled in lowercase per MOS:CAPS. Would editors kindly choose their preferred option? Pinging all participants @ Anthony Appleyard, OkayKenji, SMcCandlish, Tony1, and UnknownM1: for comments. — JFG talk 16:22, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Why is there a note in the infobox stating '---Falcon Heavy(s) counts as one attempt---'
If both side boosters of a Falcon heavy attempt to land on the pad, should it not count as two attempts - one attempt per booster? AmigaClone ( talk) 12:04, 14 January 2022 (UTC)