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A photo is needed for this page! He will be 2020 Super Bowl contender... EatPizza ( talk) 05:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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Whisperredd ( talk) 16:38, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
I don't have the experience to do the Good Article review but some glaring things are missing such as citation(s) for his birth date. And the personal life is way too short. Trillfendi ( talk) 22:38, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
His Pro Bowl Offensive MVP award should be listed in the Career highlights and awards block simply because it is an award, and because it happens to a single player rarely enough in a career that he'll likely never win it again. ( talk) 18:04, 29 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.4.103.242 ( talk)
Eagles247, seen your link and it's just a rule with no reasoning behind it other than subjectivity and that's the beginning of the problem. Then there are multiple issues with your position: First, the Pro Bowl MVP not being "noteworthy" is subjective. It's a matter of opinion, not fact, and even that opinion is trumped by facts like Pro Bowl records being kept right here on Wikipedia: /info/en/?search=Pro_Bowl. Secondly, the Pro Bowl itself is mentioned in the highlight section of this very page showing that the Pro Bowl itself is noteworthy otherwise it wouldn't be mentioned there, so if the Pro Bowl is noteworthy certainly the Most Valuable Player Award of the Pro Bowl would have to be considered noteworthy, at least enough that the NFL names the MVP of that game and the Wikipedia page I posted lists those MVPs and other historical records and facts from the history of the Pro Bowl. ( talk) 17:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.4.103.242 ( talk)
Thanks for the reply. I just want to point out one other thing: being named to a Pro Bowl is an award in and of itself as one very reliable source has it: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/awards/ not to mention that when players are mentioned that are often referred to in the vein of "13-Time Pro Bowler (((insert player name)))!" similar to "9-Time Grammy Winner (((insert artist name)!" Considering that, the fact "Pro Bowl (2019)" is mentioned in the "Career highlights and awards" section contradicts the current rule as it is an exhibition award. ( talk) 12:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.4.103.242 ( talk)
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In 2019, he was the NFL Most Valuable Player, the second player to receive a unanimous selection for the awardand move above. Best Wishes,
The fact that Lamar was named NFL MVP in 2019 should absolutely be included in his introduction. I have edited the following sentence to read "In 2019, Jackson was named NFL MVP after setting a record for the most rushing yards in a season by a quarterback<ref name=favorite/> and leading the league with 36 touchdown passes." but it keeps on getting edited to remove the NFL MVP detail. Please explain this to me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jampilot ( talk • contribs) 16:47, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
This "player profile" section is almost entirely original research, and the citations used do not support most of the claims:
Jackson is widely considered to be greatest running quarterback in the NFL since Michael Vick. During his MVP season in 2019, Jackson broke Vick's record for the most rushing yards in a season totaling 1,206 yards on a average of 6.9 yards per carry all while leading the league in touchdown passes." This is only supported by a statistics database that does not explicitly state any of this information.
Jackson has rare speed and acceleration for the quarterback position and is one of the fastest players in the NFL regardless of position." This is supported by an article discussing his Madden video game stats, and Madden ≠ real life.
Although he refused to run the 40 time at the NFL combine as a result of skepticism about his ability as a pro quarterback and teams wanting him to switch positions" This is not supported by the reference following it.
Jackson also demonstrates great running ability being able to elude & juke defenders in open field and also extending plays behind the line of scrimmage." This is followed by a reference to a highlight video from the Ravens website, which does not support the statement.
This is pure original research, plain and simple, and should not be reinstated without appropriate references from reliable sources. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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College GameDay announced their return to the University of Louisville to host the opening matchup on September 16 between the returning National Champions, Clemson Tigers, and the Cardinals.Trivial, can be removed
Jackson did not let the numbers affect his playing ability. His remarkable statistics for the season resulted in his being a Heisman finalist for the 2017 season.No quotes from Jackson to back up the playing ability comment, and "remarkable" statistics fall under MOS:PUFFERY
In total, Jackson personally accounted for over 500 yards of offense.unreferenced
Concerns however have been raised on his ability to play as a pure-pocket passer when the run-game is contained.Very jargony, hard for someone who doesn't talk football to understand
Although I have not entirely gotten through this article, I have seen enough that I think it would be best marked as a ✗ Fail, thereby giving the nominator more time to fix some of the larger issues. Overall, I have two main concerns. The first is simple: the prose has issues. This can be fixed by going to WP:GOCE. The larger issue is the flattering tone of Jackson that the article takes, rarely with concrete citations to back it up. This is something learned with time. In the meanwhile, I encourage the nominator to look at current football GAs and FAs in order to get a sense of the tone used, as well as the depth of detail employed. — Ghost River 20:07, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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So I got a major fucking problem with this page. Im here writing an essay on the change and fixing the injustices againt black Qb’s and here I use Lamar as an example. Im reading and reading to find out he now plays for the fucking Chicago Bears please fix this fucking issue my essay got graded a 60 for false information. Do me a favor and correct this entire article. SneakYZz ( talk) 17:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
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Edit his weight from 212 to 230lbs Axohh ( talk) 23:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
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Lamar Jackson is a running back not a quarterback 2603:6010:AF02:B6F8:85CA:3245:2DAA:97C6 ( talk) 00:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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Under Lamar Jackson's "NFL records" box, in the "Career highlights and awards" box there is something to add. One of the records states: "Most games with a perfect passer rating in the same season (tied with Ben Roethlisberger): 2 (2019)". This record is true, but the record is also shared with Peyton Manning. The record text should look like this: "Most games with a perfect passer rating in the same season (tied with Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger): 2 (2019)".
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source: /info/en/?search=List_of_NFL_quarterbacks_who_have_posted_a_perfect_passer_rating#cite_note-54 Sam Duquette ( talk) 04:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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i need to request because all this is false
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In the professional career tab during the 2023 season it is said the ravens earned the 5th seed in the playoffs. This is incorrect they earned the 6th seed. Please change that. 68.191.44.53 ( talk) 16:07, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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Remove detail about his supposed 40 yard dash time being the fastest ever. Mike Vick ran an official 4.33 at his pro-day, .01 seconds faster than Jackson's supposed time. 173.207.196.200 ( talk) 04:04, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
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Remove "In high school, Jackson threw a football 100 yards.[15]"
This is not a realistic claim. The source for his 100 yard throw is a grainy video posted by Lamar Jackson on Twitter, where he himself states it went 95 yards, but it's impossible to verify that number from the footage. I was unable to find any documented evidence of a football being thrown over 80 yards. The surviving results from the NFL QB challenge held between 1990-2007 lists a 76 yard throw as the competitions all time longest throw. [1]
Pro Football Focus, which has documented every NFL throw since the 2006 season, lists this throw of 74 yards as the longest in their database. [2]
It seems clear that throws in the in the mid to high 70 yard range is the upper bound of what is physically possible for quarterbacks, and Jackson being able to far surpass this is not a credible. OctaviusBCS ( talk) 00:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
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Lamar Jackson and Adoree Jackson are second cousins once removed 2600:8801:298:DD00:3973:6014:3F60:9D74 ( talk) 01:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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Chick artist 2603:6080:9F40:704:913F:9A36:9F74:EDA8 ( talk) 03:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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A photo is needed for this page! He will be 2020 Super Bowl contender... EatPizza ( talk) 05:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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Whisperredd ( talk) 16:38, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
I don't have the experience to do the Good Article review but some glaring things are missing such as citation(s) for his birth date. And the personal life is way too short. Trillfendi ( talk) 22:38, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
His Pro Bowl Offensive MVP award should be listed in the Career highlights and awards block simply because it is an award, and because it happens to a single player rarely enough in a career that he'll likely never win it again. ( talk) 18:04, 29 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.4.103.242 ( talk)
Eagles247, seen your link and it's just a rule with no reasoning behind it other than subjectivity and that's the beginning of the problem. Then there are multiple issues with your position: First, the Pro Bowl MVP not being "noteworthy" is subjective. It's a matter of opinion, not fact, and even that opinion is trumped by facts like Pro Bowl records being kept right here on Wikipedia: /info/en/?search=Pro_Bowl. Secondly, the Pro Bowl itself is mentioned in the highlight section of this very page showing that the Pro Bowl itself is noteworthy otherwise it wouldn't be mentioned there, so if the Pro Bowl is noteworthy certainly the Most Valuable Player Award of the Pro Bowl would have to be considered noteworthy, at least enough that the NFL names the MVP of that game and the Wikipedia page I posted lists those MVPs and other historical records and facts from the history of the Pro Bowl. ( talk) 17:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.4.103.242 ( talk)
Thanks for the reply. I just want to point out one other thing: being named to a Pro Bowl is an award in and of itself as one very reliable source has it: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/awards/ not to mention that when players are mentioned that are often referred to in the vein of "13-Time Pro Bowler (((insert player name)))!" similar to "9-Time Grammy Winner (((insert artist name)!" Considering that, the fact "Pro Bowl (2019)" is mentioned in the "Career highlights and awards" section contradicts the current rule as it is an exhibition award. ( talk) 12:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.4.103.242 ( talk)
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It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria-
It contains copyright infringements-
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It is not stable due to edit warring on the page.-
In 2019, he was the NFL Most Valuable Player, the second player to receive a unanimous selection for the awardand move above. Best Wishes,
The fact that Lamar was named NFL MVP in 2019 should absolutely be included in his introduction. I have edited the following sentence to read "In 2019, Jackson was named NFL MVP after setting a record for the most rushing yards in a season by a quarterback<ref name=favorite/> and leading the league with 36 touchdown passes." but it keeps on getting edited to remove the NFL MVP detail. Please explain this to me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jampilot ( talk • contribs) 16:47, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
This "player profile" section is almost entirely original research, and the citations used do not support most of the claims:
Jackson is widely considered to be greatest running quarterback in the NFL since Michael Vick. During his MVP season in 2019, Jackson broke Vick's record for the most rushing yards in a season totaling 1,206 yards on a average of 6.9 yards per carry all while leading the league in touchdown passes." This is only supported by a statistics database that does not explicitly state any of this information.
Jackson has rare speed and acceleration for the quarterback position and is one of the fastest players in the NFL regardless of position." This is supported by an article discussing his Madden video game stats, and Madden ≠ real life.
Although he refused to run the 40 time at the NFL combine as a result of skepticism about his ability as a pro quarterback and teams wanting him to switch positions" This is not supported by the reference following it.
Jackson also demonstrates great running ability being able to elude & juke defenders in open field and also extending plays behind the line of scrimmage." This is followed by a reference to a highlight video from the Ravens website, which does not support the statement.
This is pure original research, plain and simple, and should not be reinstated without appropriate references from reliable sources. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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College GameDay announced their return to the University of Louisville to host the opening matchup on September 16 between the returning National Champions, Clemson Tigers, and the Cardinals.Trivial, can be removed
Jackson did not let the numbers affect his playing ability. His remarkable statistics for the season resulted in his being a Heisman finalist for the 2017 season.No quotes from Jackson to back up the playing ability comment, and "remarkable" statistics fall under MOS:PUFFERY
In total, Jackson personally accounted for over 500 yards of offense.unreferenced
Concerns however have been raised on his ability to play as a pure-pocket passer when the run-game is contained.Very jargony, hard for someone who doesn't talk football to understand
Although I have not entirely gotten through this article, I have seen enough that I think it would be best marked as a ✗ Fail, thereby giving the nominator more time to fix some of the larger issues. Overall, I have two main concerns. The first is simple: the prose has issues. This can be fixed by going to WP:GOCE. The larger issue is the flattering tone of Jackson that the article takes, rarely with concrete citations to back it up. This is something learned with time. In the meanwhile, I encourage the nominator to look at current football GAs and FAs in order to get a sense of the tone used, as well as the depth of detail employed. — Ghost River 20:07, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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So I got a major fucking problem with this page. Im here writing an essay on the change and fixing the injustices againt black Qb’s and here I use Lamar as an example. Im reading and reading to find out he now plays for the fucking Chicago Bears please fix this fucking issue my essay got graded a 60 for false information. Do me a favor and correct this entire article. SneakYZz ( talk) 17:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
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Edit his weight from 212 to 230lbs Axohh ( talk) 23:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
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Lamar Jackson is a running back not a quarterback 2603:6010:AF02:B6F8:85CA:3245:2DAA:97C6 ( talk) 00:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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Under Lamar Jackson's "NFL records" box, in the "Career highlights and awards" box there is something to add. One of the records states: "Most games with a perfect passer rating in the same season (tied with Ben Roethlisberger): 2 (2019)". This record is true, but the record is also shared with Peyton Manning. The record text should look like this: "Most games with a perfect passer rating in the same season (tied with Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger): 2 (2019)".
Best, Sam D.
source: /info/en/?search=List_of_NFL_quarterbacks_who_have_posted_a_perfect_passer_rating#cite_note-54 Sam Duquette ( talk) 04:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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In the professional career tab during the 2023 season it is said the ravens earned the 5th seed in the playoffs. This is incorrect they earned the 6th seed. Please change that. 68.191.44.53 ( talk) 16:07, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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Remove detail about his supposed 40 yard dash time being the fastest ever. Mike Vick ran an official 4.33 at his pro-day, .01 seconds faster than Jackson's supposed time. 173.207.196.200 ( talk) 04:04, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
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Remove "In high school, Jackson threw a football 100 yards.[15]"
This is not a realistic claim. The source for his 100 yard throw is a grainy video posted by Lamar Jackson on Twitter, where he himself states it went 95 yards, but it's impossible to verify that number from the footage. I was unable to find any documented evidence of a football being thrown over 80 yards. The surviving results from the NFL QB challenge held between 1990-2007 lists a 76 yard throw as the competitions all time longest throw. [1]
Pro Football Focus, which has documented every NFL throw since the 2006 season, lists this throw of 74 yards as the longest in their database. [2]
It seems clear that throws in the in the mid to high 70 yard range is the upper bound of what is physically possible for quarterbacks, and Jackson being able to far surpass this is not a credible. OctaviusBCS ( talk) 00:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
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Lamar Jackson and Adoree Jackson are second cousins once removed 2600:8801:298:DD00:3973:6014:3F60:9D74 ( talk) 01:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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Chick artist 2603:6080:9F40:704:913F:9A36:9F74:EDA8 ( talk) 03:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)