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What a silly statement. What's the definition of a 'body of water'? There must be thousands of small and tiny lakes and meres in the Himalayas and other mountain ranges at much higher elevations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.94.86 ( talk) 22:00, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
This little tidbit was from my original Everything2 write-up, but I'm not sure if it belongs in Wikipedia:
Would anyone object if I switched this page over to the Harvard citation templates? I believe they are the preferred citation style, and they will permit referencing of specific page numbers. Thanks-- NathanCraig 02:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Is that "a man" boating? Looks like a woman, with that haircut. - DavidWBrooks 18:02, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
We have three pretty similar photos on this page now - I would like to remove one, preferably the boat shot with all the tourists, which doesn't add any information already given by the top reed-boat shot. Any objections? - DavidWBrooks 14:45, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
A three-para section with random references to the lake made on the Donald Duck show, Beavis and Butthead, and Animaniacs -- we should hang our collective head in shame at the impression that gives of our efforts here: the Free Encyclopedia with articles about South American lakes written by cartoon fans. –Hajor 21:55, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
(I'm responding to the above comment, but am not continuing the indentation because the column gets so skinny it's hard to read) Mona: Please don't remove "pop-culture" references in articles just because they aren't globally complete - instead, add more information to balance them. Many, many wikipedia articles had misbalanced information but over time, we add more details or more geographic balance or whatever, and they improve. That's how wikipedia works!
As for whether pop-culture references are appropriate to an encyclopedia: many times they aren't (as the reference here wasn't, because it was so trivial and scattered) but many times they are. A portion of the world only knows of Lake Titicaca through pop-culture references; information conveying that fact can be a valuable addition. We can't just call it "trivia" and toss it out.
I would suggest you don't get too worried about stamping out Western-centric points of view; have confidence that the growing global appeal of wikipedia will balance them over time. And how do you know that folks in, say, Puno wouldn't be tickled or enriched by a well-done reference to the way their local lake has drawn references in unexpected places? For example, I have read wikipeida articles obviously written by non-English-speaking people that go on and on about places having appeared in American movies. And personally, I'd love to see details about Bollywood references to Milwaukee: that is exactly the kind of fascinating information that traditional encyclopedias don't cover! - DavidWBrooks 17:15, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
This section was cut from the article on 11-17-06 to be reinserted at a later date when it compliments a more complete article. See Pop-culture Referrences discussion.-- Atomicskier 18:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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Would someone please be so kind as to fix formatting of photos to get rid of white spaces? I don't know how. Thank you! Mona-Lynn 00:28, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
As you can see, I overhauled the format and layout of this page. I also added the infobox. The facts and figures in the infobox (and the changes I made in the article itself) are from the World Lakes Database, so they are reliable. If anyone would like to try their hand at adjusting the layout, have at it! I like the current layout enough to leave it, but I can understand why someone might want to muddle with it. In my opinion, the formatting is sufficient to call it good. If anyone can put in additional references, or inline citations, please do so. Cheers!! Em3rald 07:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Em3rald, thanks for doing those things. I added some more specific information on the characteristics of the lake, and included some more references. Cheers-- NathanCraig 02:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
There was a recent revision that left too much white space. I think it would be better to revert to the previous version. -- Atomicskier 04:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I have heard it said - from two independent sources (i.e. folks from Peru) - that there is a saying in the schools there, "Titi, for Peru. For Bolivia, caca!" Can anyone verify this, and also comment on its notability? Apparently the western world and northern hemishphere are not the only ones who derive amusement from the name of this lake... And for the record, a 1981 map of peruvian metallomineralogical deposits draws the national border through the lake and its label, viz. "LAGO TITI |CACA" 74.61.119.244 10:40, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
There should at least be a SENTENCE in the 'name' section along the lines of "The name generates titters from anglophones, as it sounds like a combination of slang for breasts and faeces"
Justification for the removal of It is believed by some in the scientific community that Lake Titicaca was at sometime near sea level, due to the presence of ancient corn terraces on the sides of the lake, since corn cannot germinate high above sea level. is as follows:
The idea of anthropogenic "corn terraces" being evidence that Lake Titicaca was raised from sea level to 12,000 feet withing the time span of human culture is not believed by members of the "scientific community". It is an undisputed false statement claimed by creationist or "Young Earthers" whom use it as evidenced cited to support the idea that human beings have been on Earth since recently after the creation of the Universe and the formation of Earth. The only reference I could find to "ancient corn terraces" were on a creationist websites. Legitimate editors beware that this "fact" might pop up again and again.
Thor Heyerdahl says in one of his books that there is an island called "Rapa" in Lake Titicaca. Unfortunately I have not found any reference that would confirm this, nor a map having that name on it. Would anyone have any information on this? -- Drieakko 05:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Satellite map photo is 180º rotated (S-N) in respect to the map image, which is N-S oriented... perhaps it should be indicated...otherwise one could end up with an incorrect oriented image of the lake in her mind, as in many cases one expects N-S oriented images (I know, i know, it's just a cultural bias without importance in the space; but in any case...) -- idleloop 22:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I propose to add to "Islands" section the "Isla de la Luna" sub-section (will be 2.5 moving for geographical reason Suriqui to 2.6) with this text:
Isla de la Luna is situated east from the bigger Isla del Sol. According to legends that refer to Inca mythology Isla de la Luna (moon in Spanish) is where Viracocha commanded the rising of the moon. Ruins of a supposedly Inca nunnery occupy the oriental shore. [1]
More over I suggest to post in the new section this picture this picture I took of Isla de la Luna. Any objections?-- Cptnemo ( talk) 11:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
References
How did fish get up there? What species are present? Were they artificially introduced? Drutt ( talk) 14:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
sorry will not do agaian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.10.102.163 ( talk) 22:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Interesting stuff about Lake Titicaca: Iron will not rust in the water, eggs can not boil in the water, and only one kind of fish can live in the water. TheThingy Talk Website 21:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
At the start of this article it says: "(Lake Maracaibo has a larger surface area, but it is often disregarded as it is directly connected to the sea)."
Shouldn't the work sea be replaced by ocean? Its the Atlantic ocean it connects to, not the sea, surely?
Adjam ( talk) 16:58, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/892616.stm it might be worth an addition. I couldnt find any newer articles that cite this well, only ones from ~2000/2001, so I'm not sure if the discovery has more information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.238.97 ( talk) 01:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
I have not found not any more published information about this "discovery," except for a column in the January / February 2001 issue of "The Sciences," which is published by the New York Academy of Sciences. The column, "Quanta," had a discussion of the underwater ruins reported in the above BBC article and expedition's web page. This column noted that archaeologists have studied the area in which the Italian expedition reportedly saw the submerged ruins and found nothing manmade. The consensus of archaeologists, including people with extensive experience diving in and conducting underwater archaeology within Lake Titicaca, is that the Italian expedition mistook natural rock formation for manmade ruins and “There is no evidence of pyramids, cities or temples submerged in Lake Titicaca.” The column also noted that the claim made on the web site for the Italian expedition that “never before has underwater archaeological research been undertaken” in Lake Titicaca is completely false. Prior to the Italian group's expedition, archaeologists such as Johan G. Reinhard and Ponce Sanginés and professional divers, i.e. Jacques Cousteau, have extensively explored large parts, including the area in which the underwater ruins were reportedly found, of the bottom of Lake Titicaca. Although lake levels were low enough, as recently as hundreds of years ago, in the past for such a structure to have been built, reliable published evidence that the reported underwater ruins actually exist is completely lacking. Paul H. ( talk) 03:35, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I tried finding this article by various means, including contacting the Akakor Geographical Exploring. The best I can determine, this article was never published, does not exist, and, thus, cannot be used as a source. If it does exist and anyone has a citation for it, I would appreciate it. Paul H. ( talk) 01:23, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
There reads: The origin of the name Titicaca is unknown. It has been translated as "Rock Puma," as local communities have traditionally interpreted the shape of the lake to be that of a puma hunting a rabbit.
What means "traditionally" here? Supposedly not too far ago, because the shape of the over 200 km (almost 150 miles) wide lake cannot be seen from the ground. Or if it can be seen from the ground, I'd like to know how.
82.141.119.73 (
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The article needs a section indicating the origin of the name of the lake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.5.71 ( talk) 09:03, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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What a silly statement. What's the definition of a 'body of water'? There must be thousands of small and tiny lakes and meres in the Himalayas and other mountain ranges at much higher elevations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.94.86 ( talk) 22:00, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
This little tidbit was from my original Everything2 write-up, but I'm not sure if it belongs in Wikipedia:
Would anyone object if I switched this page over to the Harvard citation templates? I believe they are the preferred citation style, and they will permit referencing of specific page numbers. Thanks-- NathanCraig 02:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Is that "a man" boating? Looks like a woman, with that haircut. - DavidWBrooks 18:02, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
We have three pretty similar photos on this page now - I would like to remove one, preferably the boat shot with all the tourists, which doesn't add any information already given by the top reed-boat shot. Any objections? - DavidWBrooks 14:45, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
A three-para section with random references to the lake made on the Donald Duck show, Beavis and Butthead, and Animaniacs -- we should hang our collective head in shame at the impression that gives of our efforts here: the Free Encyclopedia with articles about South American lakes written by cartoon fans. –Hajor 21:55, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
(I'm responding to the above comment, but am not continuing the indentation because the column gets so skinny it's hard to read) Mona: Please don't remove "pop-culture" references in articles just because they aren't globally complete - instead, add more information to balance them. Many, many wikipedia articles had misbalanced information but over time, we add more details or more geographic balance or whatever, and they improve. That's how wikipedia works!
As for whether pop-culture references are appropriate to an encyclopedia: many times they aren't (as the reference here wasn't, because it was so trivial and scattered) but many times they are. A portion of the world only knows of Lake Titicaca through pop-culture references; information conveying that fact can be a valuable addition. We can't just call it "trivia" and toss it out.
I would suggest you don't get too worried about stamping out Western-centric points of view; have confidence that the growing global appeal of wikipedia will balance them over time. And how do you know that folks in, say, Puno wouldn't be tickled or enriched by a well-done reference to the way their local lake has drawn references in unexpected places? For example, I have read wikipeida articles obviously written by non-English-speaking people that go on and on about places having appeared in American movies. And personally, I'd love to see details about Bollywood references to Milwaukee: that is exactly the kind of fascinating information that traditional encyclopedias don't cover! - DavidWBrooks 17:15, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
This section was cut from the article on 11-17-06 to be reinserted at a later date when it compliments a more complete article. See Pop-culture Referrences discussion.-- Atomicskier 18:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 August 2021 and 10 December 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): KirstenBiefeld. Peer reviewers: Cumberland107, Eitamh.
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Would someone please be so kind as to fix formatting of photos to get rid of white spaces? I don't know how. Thank you! Mona-Lynn 00:28, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
As you can see, I overhauled the format and layout of this page. I also added the infobox. The facts and figures in the infobox (and the changes I made in the article itself) are from the World Lakes Database, so they are reliable. If anyone would like to try their hand at adjusting the layout, have at it! I like the current layout enough to leave it, but I can understand why someone might want to muddle with it. In my opinion, the formatting is sufficient to call it good. If anyone can put in additional references, or inline citations, please do so. Cheers!! Em3rald 07:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Em3rald, thanks for doing those things. I added some more specific information on the characteristics of the lake, and included some more references. Cheers-- NathanCraig 02:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
There was a recent revision that left too much white space. I think it would be better to revert to the previous version. -- Atomicskier 04:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I have heard it said - from two independent sources (i.e. folks from Peru) - that there is a saying in the schools there, "Titi, for Peru. For Bolivia, caca!" Can anyone verify this, and also comment on its notability? Apparently the western world and northern hemishphere are not the only ones who derive amusement from the name of this lake... And for the record, a 1981 map of peruvian metallomineralogical deposits draws the national border through the lake and its label, viz. "LAGO TITI |CACA" 74.61.119.244 10:40, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
There should at least be a SENTENCE in the 'name' section along the lines of "The name generates titters from anglophones, as it sounds like a combination of slang for breasts and faeces"
Justification for the removal of It is believed by some in the scientific community that Lake Titicaca was at sometime near sea level, due to the presence of ancient corn terraces on the sides of the lake, since corn cannot germinate high above sea level. is as follows:
The idea of anthropogenic "corn terraces" being evidence that Lake Titicaca was raised from sea level to 12,000 feet withing the time span of human culture is not believed by members of the "scientific community". It is an undisputed false statement claimed by creationist or "Young Earthers" whom use it as evidenced cited to support the idea that human beings have been on Earth since recently after the creation of the Universe and the formation of Earth. The only reference I could find to "ancient corn terraces" were on a creationist websites. Legitimate editors beware that this "fact" might pop up again and again.
Thor Heyerdahl says in one of his books that there is an island called "Rapa" in Lake Titicaca. Unfortunately I have not found any reference that would confirm this, nor a map having that name on it. Would anyone have any information on this? -- Drieakko 05:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Satellite map photo is 180º rotated (S-N) in respect to the map image, which is N-S oriented... perhaps it should be indicated...otherwise one could end up with an incorrect oriented image of the lake in her mind, as in many cases one expects N-S oriented images (I know, i know, it's just a cultural bias without importance in the space; but in any case...) -- idleloop 22:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I propose to add to "Islands" section the "Isla de la Luna" sub-section (will be 2.5 moving for geographical reason Suriqui to 2.6) with this text:
Isla de la Luna is situated east from the bigger Isla del Sol. According to legends that refer to Inca mythology Isla de la Luna (moon in Spanish) is where Viracocha commanded the rising of the moon. Ruins of a supposedly Inca nunnery occupy the oriental shore. [1]
More over I suggest to post in the new section this picture this picture I took of Isla de la Luna. Any objections?-- Cptnemo ( talk) 11:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
References
How did fish get up there? What species are present? Were they artificially introduced? Drutt ( talk) 14:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
sorry will not do agaian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.10.102.163 ( talk) 22:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Interesting stuff about Lake Titicaca: Iron will not rust in the water, eggs can not boil in the water, and only one kind of fish can live in the water. TheThingy Talk Website 21:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
At the start of this article it says: "(Lake Maracaibo has a larger surface area, but it is often disregarded as it is directly connected to the sea)."
Shouldn't the work sea be replaced by ocean? Its the Atlantic ocean it connects to, not the sea, surely?
Adjam ( talk) 16:58, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/892616.stm it might be worth an addition. I couldnt find any newer articles that cite this well, only ones from ~2000/2001, so I'm not sure if the discovery has more information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.238.97 ( talk) 01:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
I have not found not any more published information about this "discovery," except for a column in the January / February 2001 issue of "The Sciences," which is published by the New York Academy of Sciences. The column, "Quanta," had a discussion of the underwater ruins reported in the above BBC article and expedition's web page. This column noted that archaeologists have studied the area in which the Italian expedition reportedly saw the submerged ruins and found nothing manmade. The consensus of archaeologists, including people with extensive experience diving in and conducting underwater archaeology within Lake Titicaca, is that the Italian expedition mistook natural rock formation for manmade ruins and “There is no evidence of pyramids, cities or temples submerged in Lake Titicaca.” The column also noted that the claim made on the web site for the Italian expedition that “never before has underwater archaeological research been undertaken” in Lake Titicaca is completely false. Prior to the Italian group's expedition, archaeologists such as Johan G. Reinhard and Ponce Sanginés and professional divers, i.e. Jacques Cousteau, have extensively explored large parts, including the area in which the underwater ruins were reportedly found, of the bottom of Lake Titicaca. Although lake levels were low enough, as recently as hundreds of years ago, in the past for such a structure to have been built, reliable published evidence that the reported underwater ruins actually exist is completely lacking. Paul H. ( talk) 03:35, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I tried finding this article by various means, including contacting the Akakor Geographical Exploring. The best I can determine, this article was never published, does not exist, and, thus, cannot be used as a source. If it does exist and anyone has a citation for it, I would appreciate it. Paul H. ( talk) 01:23, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
There reads: The origin of the name Titicaca is unknown. It has been translated as "Rock Puma," as local communities have traditionally interpreted the shape of the lake to be that of a puma hunting a rabbit.
What means "traditionally" here? Supposedly not too far ago, because the shape of the over 200 km (almost 150 miles) wide lake cannot be seen from the ground. Or if it can be seen from the ground, I'd like to know how.
82.141.119.73 (
talk) 19:40, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
The article needs a section indicating the origin of the name of the lake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.5.71 ( talk) 09:03, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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I find this statement odd. Do we know the protohistoric or prehistoric names of anything? Wikinetman ( talk) 19:36, 12 April 2024 (UTC)