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Fixed the gender pronouns to be consistant with a drag persona.
Well, it is considered courtesy to use the female pronouns when one is in drag, and it's pretty much an insult if you refer to them as "he". I know some don't mind, but it really is she by default.
And I fixed that mistake. :)
It is considered in the drag world and the gay community innapproriate and disrepectful to refer to a drag queen by "he" by nature (there are exceptions) but also lady bunny has made it clear her preference in the matter (refer to her interviews over the years). this may violate wikipedia guidelines but this is one part of the world where it really does matter being refered to as a he, esp if you are very passing in a conservative community could get yourself hurt or worse. please respect the voices of a community, and if you are not of the drag community you really don't have much say in the matter in my opinion.
Cited dicussion does not regard gender at all, just porn performer which is a different animal from a Drag Queen performer.as stated before female pronouns are considered a courtesy.
Please refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_LGBT_studies#Guidelines point 2 and 3a, also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:IDENTITY#Identity Quote: "Any person whose gender might be questioned should be referred to using the gendered nouns, pronouns, and possessive adjectives that reflect that person's latest expressed gender self-identification. This applies when referring to any phase of that person's life. Nevertheless, avoid confusing or seemingly logically impossible text that could result from pronoun usage (for example: She fathered her first child)."
Lady Bunny has refered to her self in third person as her, she is a professional drag queen with over 25 years worth of experience, thus she is professionally presenting as female, professionally she does not have any other "persona" she has and always been Lady Bunny. Doing a quick search of the new york times she refers to herself as female when interviewed and is even given the courtesy of female pronouns in the Grey Lady
[1]
Howaboutudance ( talk) 01:41, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
We still will have to stand by the "person's latest expressed gender self-identification." sure Lady Bunny has her times, as Jon, out of face, but we are talking about Lady Bunny, She is presenting *exclusively* as female, Lady Bunny does not even give interviews as Jon, Only after pestering by the NYT in the early 90's did she even disclose here real name.
Also realize we have multiple policies that can conflict, however, being this a LGBT Person who markets, and focuses herself on the LGBT community, and out of respect of the fact of her being, technically, a Transgendered person, she fits under LGBT Wikiprojects Policies.
Howaboutudance ( talk) 02:08, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
References
Does whoever submitted this have a reference? What was the venue for the show? Most of Decadence takes place on the street, so an SRO crowd isn't really saying much. rich 18:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
-- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:27, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
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Lady Bunny has stated more than once that she will not transition yet feels kinship and commonality with trans women. Thus, she is a non-operative trans woman. I don't understand the fuss.-- 2601:C4:C300:1BD0:A8C4:44B6:EDDD:E64E ( talk) 02:12, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
feels kinship and commonality with trans women-- which is very different from being a trans woman. You can't just say
thus, she is a [...] trans woman. Umimmak ( talk) 04:16, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
@
Gleeanon409: re
[2] and adding Lady Bunny identifies as
gender fluid
— again this is not supported by the sources, which only quote her saying I do feel that gender is fluid, so I do feel as if I’m part of that community
and write Of course, Bunny is a white, cisgender man when she's out of drag, and she readily acknowledges the privileges that come with that
, respectively, that first quote is not enough to say Lady Bunny specifically “identifies as gender fluid”.
Umimmak (
talk) 07:08, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 02:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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Fixed the gender pronouns to be consistant with a drag persona.
Well, it is considered courtesy to use the female pronouns when one is in drag, and it's pretty much an insult if you refer to them as "he". I know some don't mind, but it really is she by default.
And I fixed that mistake. :)
It is considered in the drag world and the gay community innapproriate and disrepectful to refer to a drag queen by "he" by nature (there are exceptions) but also lady bunny has made it clear her preference in the matter (refer to her interviews over the years). this may violate wikipedia guidelines but this is one part of the world where it really does matter being refered to as a he, esp if you are very passing in a conservative community could get yourself hurt or worse. please respect the voices of a community, and if you are not of the drag community you really don't have much say in the matter in my opinion.
Cited dicussion does not regard gender at all, just porn performer which is a different animal from a Drag Queen performer.as stated before female pronouns are considered a courtesy.
Please refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_LGBT_studies#Guidelines point 2 and 3a, also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:IDENTITY#Identity Quote: "Any person whose gender might be questioned should be referred to using the gendered nouns, pronouns, and possessive adjectives that reflect that person's latest expressed gender self-identification. This applies when referring to any phase of that person's life. Nevertheless, avoid confusing or seemingly logically impossible text that could result from pronoun usage (for example: She fathered her first child)."
Lady Bunny has refered to her self in third person as her, she is a professional drag queen with over 25 years worth of experience, thus she is professionally presenting as female, professionally she does not have any other "persona" she has and always been Lady Bunny. Doing a quick search of the new york times she refers to herself as female when interviewed and is even given the courtesy of female pronouns in the Grey Lady
[1]
Howaboutudance ( talk) 01:41, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
We still will have to stand by the "person's latest expressed gender self-identification." sure Lady Bunny has her times, as Jon, out of face, but we are talking about Lady Bunny, She is presenting *exclusively* as female, Lady Bunny does not even give interviews as Jon, Only after pestering by the NYT in the early 90's did she even disclose here real name.
Also realize we have multiple policies that can conflict, however, being this a LGBT Person who markets, and focuses herself on the LGBT community, and out of respect of the fact of her being, technically, a Transgendered person, she fits under LGBT Wikiprojects Policies.
Howaboutudance ( talk) 02:08, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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Does whoever submitted this have a reference? What was the venue for the show? Most of Decadence takes place on the street, so an SRO crowd isn't really saying much. rich 18:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
-- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:27, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
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Lady Bunny has stated more than once that she will not transition yet feels kinship and commonality with trans women. Thus, she is a non-operative trans woman. I don't understand the fuss.-- 2601:C4:C300:1BD0:A8C4:44B6:EDDD:E64E ( talk) 02:12, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
feels kinship and commonality with trans women-- which is very different from being a trans woman. You can't just say
thus, she is a [...] trans woman. Umimmak ( talk) 04:16, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
@
Gleeanon409: re
[2] and adding Lady Bunny identifies as
gender fluid
— again this is not supported by the sources, which only quote her saying I do feel that gender is fluid, so I do feel as if I’m part of that community
and write Of course, Bunny is a white, cisgender man when she's out of drag, and she readily acknowledges the privileges that come with that
, respectively, that first quote is not enough to say Lady Bunny specifically “identifies as gender fluid”.
Umimmak (
talk) 07:08, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 02:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC)