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I think the intro sentence:
"Russia has neither legislation against gay people nor anti-discrimination laws."
while obviously factually accurate, denotes a tone that almost makes the article seem obsolete. Clearly there is an issue with LGBT rights in the country, so why start with a sentence that trivializes it? Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulPedersen ( talk • contribs) 04:55, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
This page needs to seriously be changed. Dates are missing (years not even used in important places) and there is only one source. This page should be deleted completely and started from scratch.
Is anyone certain that Russia was the only country in Europe in which homosexuality way legal; I am fairly certain that French laws against homosexuality were abolished durring the French Revolution.
Soviet Union fell in 1991. However, the page states "The law was not repealed until after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1993." I'm going to remove the year, until someone clarifies whether the law was repealed in 1993 or 1991.
The referenced BBC article confirms 1993 as the year of decriminalization - May 27th to be precise. The article used to say, "when Russia joined the Council of Europe," but the Council of Europe article says Russia joined in 1996. Can anyone straighten that out? -- Beland 15:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering if anyone could confirm this sentence:
The picture I got, mainly from Dan Healey's Homosexual Desire in Revolutionary Russia is that gay men were generally imprisoned for homosexual acts (when anything was done about it at all), while it was primarily gay women who were subjected to "reparative therapy" in the Soviet Union. - Smahoney 18:50, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
"In the 1950s and 1960s, the range of mental health treatment services delivered by the criminal justice systems in Canada, the United States, Great Britain, South Africa, the Soviet Union, and elsewhere expanded dramatically. At the same time, there was a vast increase in arrests for homosexual offenses. Many homosexual and transsexual males who were arrested in this era were forced to undergo some sort of therapeutic treatment as part of a criminal court sentence, sometimes as an alternative to imprisonment or as a condition of parole. Since lesbianism did not generally fall under the purview of the criminal justice system, women were less likely to be subjected to aversion therapies as a result of arrest or imprisonment. However, they were subjected to such therapies as patients in psychiatric hospitals or clinics." [1]
Need not be "complete rewrite", I didn't know the template was that extreme. -- Uncle Ed 17:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
"Soviet delegates were sent to the German Institute For Sexual Research and at international conferences on human sexuality, they advocated the legalization of homosexuality."
Where's the source of this statement? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.195.14.174 ( talk) 19:37, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to making a massive overhaul of this terrible article. Especially all the unsourced statements. Shlomo411 ( talk) 18:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
I think the intro sentence:
"Russia has neither legislation against gay people nor anti-discrimination laws."
while obviously factually accurate, denotes a tone that almost makes the article seem obsolete. Clearly there is an issue with LGBT rights in the country, so why start with a sentence that trivializes it? Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulPedersen ( talk • contribs) 04:55, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
This page needs to seriously be changed. Dates are missing (years not even used in important places) and there is only one source. This page should be deleted completely and started from scratch.
Is anyone certain that Russia was the only country in Europe in which homosexuality way legal; I am fairly certain that French laws against homosexuality were abolished durring the French Revolution.
Soviet Union fell in 1991. However, the page states "The law was not repealed until after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1993." I'm going to remove the year, until someone clarifies whether the law was repealed in 1993 or 1991.
The referenced BBC article confirms 1993 as the year of decriminalization - May 27th to be precise. The article used to say, "when Russia joined the Council of Europe," but the Council of Europe article says Russia joined in 1996. Can anyone straighten that out? -- Beland 15:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering if anyone could confirm this sentence:
The picture I got, mainly from Dan Healey's Homosexual Desire in Revolutionary Russia is that gay men were generally imprisoned for homosexual acts (when anything was done about it at all), while it was primarily gay women who were subjected to "reparative therapy" in the Soviet Union. - Smahoney 18:50, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
"In the 1950s and 1960s, the range of mental health treatment services delivered by the criminal justice systems in Canada, the United States, Great Britain, South Africa, the Soviet Union, and elsewhere expanded dramatically. At the same time, there was a vast increase in arrests for homosexual offenses. Many homosexual and transsexual males who were arrested in this era were forced to undergo some sort of therapeutic treatment as part of a criminal court sentence, sometimes as an alternative to imprisonment or as a condition of parole. Since lesbianism did not generally fall under the purview of the criminal justice system, women were less likely to be subjected to aversion therapies as a result of arrest or imprisonment. However, they were subjected to such therapies as patients in psychiatric hospitals or clinics." [1]
Need not be "complete rewrite", I didn't know the template was that extreme. -- Uncle Ed 17:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
"Soviet delegates were sent to the German Institute For Sexual Research and at international conferences on human sexuality, they advocated the legalization of homosexuality."
Where's the source of this statement? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.195.14.174 ( talk) 19:37, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to making a massive overhaul of this terrible article. Especially all the unsourced statements. Shlomo411 ( talk) 18:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)