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Legend of Zelda
Triforce of the Gods
The sacred lands of the Triforce have been transformed to the "World of Darkness" which reflect Ganon's ambitions. But Ganon was still not satisfied, and is plotting to make Hairal, the "World of Light", into his own. To make this happen, the daughters of the seven sages must be sacrificed, and the seal broken. And now, through the hand of the priest Aknim, that is about to be realized.
You are the hero who must venture through the worlds of light and dark to defeat Ganon, the king of wickedness who is the root of all malice. There are sure to be plenty of puzzles and monsters awaiting you. The Legend of Zelda is about to start.
-- Paul Richter ( talk) 03:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
If you look carefully at the LCD screen near the hearts display, there is a short, old man casting magic with a wand. Does anyone have any idea what triggers him to appear?
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 03:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Darkhunger and I had a conversation a week ago (
here) that I would like to get external opinions about. Darkhunger had noticed that the modern trend of Nintendo seems to be that they are renaming their current-day versions of the Game & Watch games. The original stand-alone games were titled simply "Ball", "Flagman", "Parachute", "Donkey Kong Jr.", etc. The GBA collections also seem to have used these names (based on the instruction manuals). The Mini Classic versions also appear to have used this format. The modern DSi/3DS versions, however, have been renamed by Nintendo to "Game & Watch: Ball" (or "Game & Watch™: Ball"), "Game & Watch: Flagman", "Game & Watch: Donkey Kong Jr.", etc.
Because the Zelda game has not been released for DSi/3DS yet, Darkhunger and I agreed that it would be best to use the original title "Zelda" for now. This is the title that was used in the original standalone game (according to its instruction manual), the Mini Classic version (according to the cover-art), and the Game & Watch Gallery 4 port (by analogy to the other titles in its instruction manual. The game's title is not actually mentioned since it's an unlockable game).
But the question still remains whether Wikipedia should refer to the Zelda game as "Game & Watch: Zelda" if/when it is released for DSi/3DS and assuming that they keep the renaming system the same. My opinion is that it should stay titled with its original release title (i.e. simply "Zelda") even if a renamed version is eventually released. Such a renaming should of course be mentioned in the body of the article though (in the lede for the subsection preferably) if/when it happens. Does that sound reasonable? -
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16:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
The Classic NES Series was released as a new series in 2004 so it isn't that surprising that Nintendo would use the "Classic NES Series:TITLE" format. I'm not sure how much force this argument has, though, considering that throughout Wikipedia these games are simply referred to by their original titles and not the "Classic NES Series:TITLE" format. To use your analogy, it would be as if you were suggesting that we should rename the original "The Legend of Zelda" game to "Classic NES Series: Zelda" since that's what Nintendo has renamed it as. Obviously that would be silly. We shouldn't use a modern renamed title instead of the original title.
The cover of the original game can be seen here, and the cover of the original instruction manual for the Game & Watch Zelda looks like this:
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I could possibly see an argument for calling the game "Game & Watch Multi Screen Zelda" but given the fact that the term "Zelda™" is so much larger and differently colored and generally more prominent it looks to me like its title is simply "Zelda". The term "Game & Watch Multi Screen" is included because it is part of the Game & Watch series, but the term "Nintendo" is also included for the same reason. Just because this game falls within Nintendo's pantheon doesn't mean we would officially title it "Nintendo Zelda" or even "Game & Watch Nintendo Zelda". Typographical logistics aside, it is clear from the GBA Game & Watch Gallery manuals that the games (at least through 2002) have always been referred to (by Nintendo) simply with what you describe above as the subtitle. Look at page 5 of the instruction manual for Game & Watch Gallery 3. It describes 5 games using the following terms:
The "Game & Watch: [TITLE]" format doesn't show up even once. This term is a new one. It only began to be used within the last 2 years (since 2009). What I see here is a line of late 80s to early 90s games each with different simple names all released in the Game & Watch format that are seeing a revival among retro enthusiasts and which Nintendo has officially renamed with the standard term "Game & Watch: [TITLE]". Because this is an issue of renaming and not of historical correction, I'd still be inclined to use the original titles that Nintendo used. - Thibbs ( talk) 16:17, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
I've been on the search for proper references for this game for a while and although I have found some, I have yet to find anything to support the notion that the Dragon (as it is called in the game's manual) is actually Aquamentus. In fact, I also cannot find any evidence that the dragons are sons and a father or that the game even takes place in Hyrule. The plot that we have is very imaginative compared to the exceptionally thin plot given in the manual and if what we have is correct it would certainly be preferable, but at this point I simply cannot find any references for it and so I must conclude that it is a fan creation.
I am going to remove the plot we have listed for this game and I will replace it with the weak plot listed in the manual, but I'm copying the text that I'll remove below so that it can be restored if adequate sources can ever be recovered to bolster it (note: sources such as zeldapedia and zeldawiki do support several elements like the identification of the Dragon as Aqamentus, but they ar not RSes). I've also written to the originator of the information to ask him for sources, but it's an anonymous IP and he hasn't edited since mid-2005 so I am not very hopeful... Anyway, without further ado here is the portion I am removing:
The kingdom of Hyrule is attacked by a monster king called Aquamentus along with his three sons. They shatter the Triforce into four pieces, steal the fragments, and take over the three sacred dungeons. This puts Hyrule into chaos. Bitter fighting breaks out between monster forces, and many Hylian soldiers lose their lives. Link must defeat the monsters and retrieve the Triforce to save Hyrule.
Please help me find sources for this so that we can restore it if it is accurate. - Thibbs ( talk) 15:10, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Pictorial evidence shows the dragon is an Aquamentus, both the in game graphic and the manual shows an Aquamentus You can tell because of the single horn on the head of the dragon which clearly shows it's species. However, the quote directly conflicts with the game manual in several ways. First, there are four caves, not 3. They are caves, not dungeons. The rest of the statement, about the killing and the king seems to not based on anything. Orpheus Rex ( talk) 22:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately, we cannot sustain three images on this article. The article's subject is LCD games from the Zelda series; as such, the images need to represent that and not their own games. Therefore, only one can claim to do that, while the others must show that they're necessary to enhance understanding of the subject. The idea that a cover is necessary for a game is only true if the game has its own article. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 18:23, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I just finished playing the game. The game does not "restart" when you beat the dragon. You have to beat 8 dragons to collect the eight scattered pieces of the triforce to free a princess(Zelda)who is being kept at the far top left corner of the screen, above the items. Additionally the description implies that there is a single room in between dragons when there is a whole dungeon filled with moblin rooms with several possible paths through each dungeon. Orpheus Rex ( talk) 21:22, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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How come is there no separate page for the Game & Watch: The Legend of Zelda? One time when I was trying to create the article it automatically redirected me to The Legend of Zelda page, and now the article is now on the page. A long time ago I made loads of fake Zelda draft articles for the series 35th anniversary even to the point where I said if its not real please don't delete this article (which have all been deleted now as of April and May 2021). Since the Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros. has its own article, how come does the Zelda version not have its own. I am sorry for making all of the now deleted fake draft articles. I used to think if there was a separate page, it would be a copy and paste from the Mario version article while also changing a lot of words. I was also going to make fake Metroid ones when I decided not too. That is the thing I need to know. 107.146.244.150 ( talk) 06:34, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
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User:Thibbs requested a translation of this material for this section.
Legend of Zelda
Triforce of the Gods
The sacred lands of the Triforce have been transformed to the "World of Darkness" which reflect Ganon's ambitions. But Ganon was still not satisfied, and is plotting to make Hairal, the "World of Light", into his own. To make this happen, the daughters of the seven sages must be sacrificed, and the seal broken. And now, through the hand of the priest Aknim, that is about to be realized.
You are the hero who must venture through the worlds of light and dark to defeat Ganon, the king of wickedness who is the root of all malice. There are sure to be plenty of puzzles and monsters awaiting you. The Legend of Zelda is about to start.
-- Paul Richter ( talk) 03:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
If you look carefully at the LCD screen near the hearts display, there is a short, old man casting magic with a wand. Does anyone have any idea what triggers him to appear?
Image:Zelda Game & Watch Gallery 4 remake.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 03:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Darkhunger and I had a conversation a week ago (
here) that I would like to get external opinions about. Darkhunger had noticed that the modern trend of Nintendo seems to be that they are renaming their current-day versions of the Game & Watch games. The original stand-alone games were titled simply "Ball", "Flagman", "Parachute", "Donkey Kong Jr.", etc. The GBA collections also seem to have used these names (based on the instruction manuals). The Mini Classic versions also appear to have used this format. The modern DSi/3DS versions, however, have been renamed by Nintendo to "Game & Watch: Ball" (or "Game & Watch™: Ball"), "Game & Watch: Flagman", "Game & Watch: Donkey Kong Jr.", etc.
Because the Zelda game has not been released for DSi/3DS yet, Darkhunger and I agreed that it would be best to use the original title "Zelda" for now. This is the title that was used in the original standalone game (according to its instruction manual), the Mini Classic version (according to the cover-art), and the Game & Watch Gallery 4 port (by analogy to the other titles in its instruction manual. The game's title is not actually mentioned since it's an unlockable game).
But the question still remains whether Wikipedia should refer to the Zelda game as "Game & Watch: Zelda" if/when it is released for DSi/3DS and assuming that they keep the renaming system the same. My opinion is that it should stay titled with its original release title (i.e. simply "Zelda") even if a renamed version is eventually released. Such a renaming should of course be mentioned in the body of the article though (in the lede for the subsection preferably) if/when it happens. Does that sound reasonable? -
Thibbs (
talk)
16:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
The Classic NES Series was released as a new series in 2004 so it isn't that surprising that Nintendo would use the "Classic NES Series:TITLE" format. I'm not sure how much force this argument has, though, considering that throughout Wikipedia these games are simply referred to by their original titles and not the "Classic NES Series:TITLE" format. To use your analogy, it would be as if you were suggesting that we should rename the original "The Legend of Zelda" game to "Classic NES Series: Zelda" since that's what Nintendo has renamed it as. Obviously that would be silly. We shouldn't use a modern renamed title instead of the original title.
The cover of the original game can be seen here, and the cover of the original instruction manual for the Game & Watch Zelda looks like this:
|
I could possibly see an argument for calling the game "Game & Watch Multi Screen Zelda" but given the fact that the term "Zelda™" is so much larger and differently colored and generally more prominent it looks to me like its title is simply "Zelda". The term "Game & Watch Multi Screen" is included because it is part of the Game & Watch series, but the term "Nintendo" is also included for the same reason. Just because this game falls within Nintendo's pantheon doesn't mean we would officially title it "Nintendo Zelda" or even "Game & Watch Nintendo Zelda". Typographical logistics aside, it is clear from the GBA Game & Watch Gallery manuals that the games (at least through 2002) have always been referred to (by Nintendo) simply with what you describe above as the subtitle. Look at page 5 of the instruction manual for Game & Watch Gallery 3. It describes 5 games using the following terms:
The "Game & Watch: [TITLE]" format doesn't show up even once. This term is a new one. It only began to be used within the last 2 years (since 2009). What I see here is a line of late 80s to early 90s games each with different simple names all released in the Game & Watch format that are seeing a revival among retro enthusiasts and which Nintendo has officially renamed with the standard term "Game & Watch: [TITLE]". Because this is an issue of renaming and not of historical correction, I'd still be inclined to use the original titles that Nintendo used. - Thibbs ( talk) 16:17, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
I've been on the search for proper references for this game for a while and although I have found some, I have yet to find anything to support the notion that the Dragon (as it is called in the game's manual) is actually Aquamentus. In fact, I also cannot find any evidence that the dragons are sons and a father or that the game even takes place in Hyrule. The plot that we have is very imaginative compared to the exceptionally thin plot given in the manual and if what we have is correct it would certainly be preferable, but at this point I simply cannot find any references for it and so I must conclude that it is a fan creation.
I am going to remove the plot we have listed for this game and I will replace it with the weak plot listed in the manual, but I'm copying the text that I'll remove below so that it can be restored if adequate sources can ever be recovered to bolster it (note: sources such as zeldapedia and zeldawiki do support several elements like the identification of the Dragon as Aqamentus, but they ar not RSes). I've also written to the originator of the information to ask him for sources, but it's an anonymous IP and he hasn't edited since mid-2005 so I am not very hopeful... Anyway, without further ado here is the portion I am removing:
The kingdom of Hyrule is attacked by a monster king called Aquamentus along with his three sons. They shatter the Triforce into four pieces, steal the fragments, and take over the three sacred dungeons. This puts Hyrule into chaos. Bitter fighting breaks out between monster forces, and many Hylian soldiers lose their lives. Link must defeat the monsters and retrieve the Triforce to save Hyrule.
Please help me find sources for this so that we can restore it if it is accurate. - Thibbs ( talk) 15:10, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Pictorial evidence shows the dragon is an Aquamentus, both the in game graphic and the manual shows an Aquamentus You can tell because of the single horn on the head of the dragon which clearly shows it's species. However, the quote directly conflicts with the game manual in several ways. First, there are four caves, not 3. They are caves, not dungeons. The rest of the statement, about the killing and the king seems to not based on anything. Orpheus Rex ( talk) 22:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately, we cannot sustain three images on this article. The article's subject is LCD games from the Zelda series; as such, the images need to represent that and not their own games. Therefore, only one can claim to do that, while the others must show that they're necessary to enhance understanding of the subject. The idea that a cover is necessary for a game is only true if the game has its own article. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 18:23, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I just finished playing the game. The game does not "restart" when you beat the dragon. You have to beat 8 dragons to collect the eight scattered pieces of the triforce to free a princess(Zelda)who is being kept at the far top left corner of the screen, above the items. Additionally the description implies that there is a single room in between dragons when there is a whole dungeon filled with moblin rooms with several possible paths through each dungeon. Orpheus Rex ( talk) 21:22, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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How come is there no separate page for the Game & Watch: The Legend of Zelda? One time when I was trying to create the article it automatically redirected me to The Legend of Zelda page, and now the article is now on the page. A long time ago I made loads of fake Zelda draft articles for the series 35th anniversary even to the point where I said if its not real please don't delete this article (which have all been deleted now as of April and May 2021). Since the Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros. has its own article, how come does the Zelda version not have its own. I am sorry for making all of the now deleted fake draft articles. I used to think if there was a separate page, it would be a copy and paste from the Mario version article while also changing a lot of words. I was also going to make fake Metroid ones when I decided not too. That is the thing I need to know. 107.146.244.150 ( talk) 06:34, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
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