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This revision ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=LAME&oldid=781172976) added the following text: "The page's later caution about third-party implementation–specific patents is not about LAME's implementation". What is the source of this statement? Flippant doddie (talk) 13:01, 13 October 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flippant doddie ( talk • contribs)
I think it would be nice if the reason for LAME being named "LAME Ain't an Encoder" despite, in fact, being an encoder was more clearly explained within the article. I purpose changing the first sentence of the History section from:
to:
I'm personally rather new to Wikipedia so I just wanted to run this edit by some more seasoned Wikipedians before making the edit. Please share your thoughts.
-- 47.205.49.129 ( talk) 10:25, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Factual error: RazorLame was not previously known as RazorBlade - RazorBlade was the name of a similar frontend designed for the Blade mp3 encoder, RazorLame did, however, take the idea behind its name from RazorBlade ( 194.80.32.9 11:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC))
This line is POV:
Many people think that LAME is the best mp3 encoder available today.
The only MP3 encoder i've used is LAME, but I think it's POV to say it's the best.
68.10.250.181 04:27, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I disagree with you, especially after taking part in this test: http://www.rjamorim.com/test/multiformat128/results.html which once and for all cleared the air on LAME being THE high-end encoder for MP3... 195.64.95.116 01:09, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I disagree too. LAME is widely regarded as the best mp3 encoder, and has been for a while. If you want citation, check out UberStandard. Supersonic^ 14:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I've been wondering, why exactly is it called "LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder," when you take into consideration that it is an MP3 encoder, standalone or not?
When did LAME encounter the legal difficulties? What was the outcome? Is LAME illegal in countries that recognize software patents?
Can someone please explain the difference between CBR and CBR+. I use Audiograbber as the front-end and I don't even see the option to have CBR+ or just CBR.
There is no such thing as CBR+ in LAME
Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).== CDex (a LAME front-end) ==
Why isn't CDex included in the LAME-compatible systems? It's a popular mp3 encoding software.
Link to a CDex download page (from download.com): http://www.download.com/CDex/3000-2140_4-10226370.html?tag=lst-0-1
Removing.
"LAME stands for LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder"
"LAME is an open source MP3 encoder"
Am I the only one that finds this LAME? (pun intended)
I love the fact that the name LAME is not only a recursive acronym, but is quite literally a really lame name! Not only was it kind of lame to start with, in that it basically says 'this software is really lousy', and recycles a slightly tired old geek in-joke, but it's also now totally inaccurate, having started out as only being misleading! How fantastically lame is that?! It's, like, meta-recursively lame!
-- Oolong 18:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
It should be renamed LIME, Lime Is an MP3 Encoder. ;) Jerry Kindall 19:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Nerds go home! Nerds go home! Nerds go home! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.45.131.226 ( talk) 01:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I added a paragraph about what LAME is before the describing what the name stands for. If you don't already know what LAME is, knowing what the name stands for doesn't really help. At All. Especially for a Normal Person. (Hence the concern about this entry being too technical.) I just had a bunch of people use LAME to create MP3s with Audacity. A bunch of them seemed confused about whether they had installed LAME. I hoped that pointing here would help them to understand that, and hope that with my edits it now might. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pfaffman ( talk • contribs) 21:17, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm adding a link to the download page for ALL2LAME as I see it isn't listed here. It's not very fancy, but it's very useful.— NRen2k5 21:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I ever use the Nero mp3 encoder over LAME because it brings much better fidelity to the audio samples at 128Kbps CBR High Quality against LAME at the same setup.
I here v0 being tossed around a lot as a codec. Though I've never heard of it. Searching for it here at wikipedia sends me to Conviasa. But looking at the history of that redirect tells me it used to point to this LAME article. It was changed for the lack of mention in this article. Could we get a good explanation added to this article? -- Mightygiant 03:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Current revision says: "In November, 2005 there were reports that the Extended Copy Protection software included on some SONY Compact Discs includes portions of the LAME library without complying with the terms of the LGPL.[citation needed]" Well, afaik hacker known as 'myzzy' was the first to discover that the Sony rootkit had some strings from lame.exe, see [1] (do a search for "LAME") and also see this: [2]. I'd add them myself but the page is semiprotected and I've forgotten my password :p -- 84.250.196.123 19:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Uberstandard: "Many people think.." is a weasel phrase, overtly against Wikipedia general policy, and in my opinion a hedge around blatant bias which has no place in this article. This should simply say that thus and such listening test had the most positive results for LAME mp3. However, note that the study linked to twice places in bold text the reservations and apologies of the person who conducted the study, he himself putting forward that the study had serious flaws. So if the study is cited, it should also be noted that the conductor of the study has reservations, as is cited in the current iTunes article. -alexh -- 166.70.188.26 23:49, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Does Zune support LAME mp3s;? Swimg43 20:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't agree with the following quote: "Unfortunately, LAME codec hasn't been updated for a while, although the LAME v.4 development moved to alpha testing, after some time updates stopped and the codec itself is severely outdated."
a.) I wouldn't consider 13 months from the latest release as 'outdated'.
b.) There is continuing development if you check CVS, the box up the top right lists the latest preview as less than one month old
c.) I don't think leading that sentence with "Unfortunately" is appropriate for an encyclopaedia.
d.) If the 'severely outdated' reference was to stand I think there would need to be some kind of citation to back up that claim.
121.45.35.113 04:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering ( Amy Lamedes ( talk) 10:54, 8 December 2007 (UTC))
it is ture that reznor DID invent lame, but we're not talking about the same thing on this page. you nut. 122.49.182.109 ( talk) 06:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Is this really necessary? Practically any program that converts WAV to MP3 is LAME-compatible. I don't really see what this list adds to the article. EvilCouch ( talk) 08:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Main Page says, May 2007: default variable bitrate encoding speed is vastly improved. But the Lame Home page at Sourceforge says, Latest LAME release: v3.97 (September 2006). Did I/WE miss something ? DADSGETNDOWN ( talk) 01:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't sure if we should be including BETA versions or not, The version the site stuffs in your face to get is V3.97, Maybe we should update it to show the changes since May 2007 ? I feel they should only show finals. :) BTW is this reply formatted properly ?, my "lines" indented right ? only the first line looks right ? Also I have a unintended space after the word "updated?" Help ? DADSGETNDOWN ( talk) 21:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
The Mac OSX encoder LameBrain isn't supported anymore and uses an out-of-date LAME library (3.95). Should it stay in this list or should it be removed?. See the author's statement. Irina666 ( talk) 14:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Youtube uses LAME. Should this be noted, and where?-- Dwedit ( talk) 03:54, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
This edit needlessly reignited the GNU/Linux naming controversy by adding in disputed terms where they aren't needed (a Java binary runs on many platforms, for instance). It also removed a needed cleanup tag. It should be reverted. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 19:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
The entire first paragraph is lifted from the LAME website's front page, and needs to definitely be rewritten. I'm hesitant to outright remove it because it's so important to the article and the section. Gamersedge ( talk) 15:05, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
I noticed this pair of edits today. I like the fact that a link to the article about the rootkit scandal was added, but I'm not sure creating another section labeled "Controversy" is really the best way to go. This is already mentioned elsewhere in the article (search for the word "rootkit"), and it's not really a controversy about LAME per se. I think it should be merged into the existing mention, but with the article link included; the result will definitely be better than what was already there. CosineKitty ( talk) 21:16, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Someone recently deleted this from the article(!) without discussion. Green Cardamom ( talk) 15:09, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
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Link to the current reference: ( /info/en/?search=LAME#cite_note-9)
This revision ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=LAME&oldid=781172976) added the following text: "The page's later caution about third-party implementation–specific patents is not about LAME's implementation". What is the source of this statement? Flippant doddie (talk) 13:01, 13 October 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flippant doddie ( talk • contribs)
I think it would be nice if the reason for LAME being named "LAME Ain't an Encoder" despite, in fact, being an encoder was more clearly explained within the article. I purpose changing the first sentence of the History section from:
to:
I'm personally rather new to Wikipedia so I just wanted to run this edit by some more seasoned Wikipedians before making the edit. Please share your thoughts.
-- 47.205.49.129 ( talk) 10:25, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Factual error: RazorLame was not previously known as RazorBlade - RazorBlade was the name of a similar frontend designed for the Blade mp3 encoder, RazorLame did, however, take the idea behind its name from RazorBlade ( 194.80.32.9 11:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC))
This line is POV:
Many people think that LAME is the best mp3 encoder available today.
The only MP3 encoder i've used is LAME, but I think it's POV to say it's the best.
68.10.250.181 04:27, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I disagree with you, especially after taking part in this test: http://www.rjamorim.com/test/multiformat128/results.html which once and for all cleared the air on LAME being THE high-end encoder for MP3... 195.64.95.116 01:09, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I disagree too. LAME is widely regarded as the best mp3 encoder, and has been for a while. If you want citation, check out UberStandard. Supersonic^ 14:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I've been wondering, why exactly is it called "LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder," when you take into consideration that it is an MP3 encoder, standalone or not?
When did LAME encounter the legal difficulties? What was the outcome? Is LAME illegal in countries that recognize software patents?
Can someone please explain the difference between CBR and CBR+. I use Audiograbber as the front-end and I don't even see the option to have CBR+ or just CBR.
There is no such thing as CBR+ in LAME
Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).== CDex (a LAME front-end) ==
Why isn't CDex included in the LAME-compatible systems? It's a popular mp3 encoding software.
Link to a CDex download page (from download.com): http://www.download.com/CDex/3000-2140_4-10226370.html?tag=lst-0-1
Removing.
"LAME stands for LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder"
"LAME is an open source MP3 encoder"
Am I the only one that finds this LAME? (pun intended)
I love the fact that the name LAME is not only a recursive acronym, but is quite literally a really lame name! Not only was it kind of lame to start with, in that it basically says 'this software is really lousy', and recycles a slightly tired old geek in-joke, but it's also now totally inaccurate, having started out as only being misleading! How fantastically lame is that?! It's, like, meta-recursively lame!
-- Oolong 18:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
It should be renamed LIME, Lime Is an MP3 Encoder. ;) Jerry Kindall 19:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Nerds go home! Nerds go home! Nerds go home! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.45.131.226 ( talk) 01:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I added a paragraph about what LAME is before the describing what the name stands for. If you don't already know what LAME is, knowing what the name stands for doesn't really help. At All. Especially for a Normal Person. (Hence the concern about this entry being too technical.) I just had a bunch of people use LAME to create MP3s with Audacity. A bunch of them seemed confused about whether they had installed LAME. I hoped that pointing here would help them to understand that, and hope that with my edits it now might. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pfaffman ( talk • contribs) 21:17, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm adding a link to the download page for ALL2LAME as I see it isn't listed here. It's not very fancy, but it's very useful.— NRen2k5 21:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I ever use the Nero mp3 encoder over LAME because it brings much better fidelity to the audio samples at 128Kbps CBR High Quality against LAME at the same setup.
I here v0 being tossed around a lot as a codec. Though I've never heard of it. Searching for it here at wikipedia sends me to Conviasa. But looking at the history of that redirect tells me it used to point to this LAME article. It was changed for the lack of mention in this article. Could we get a good explanation added to this article? -- Mightygiant 03:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Current revision says: "In November, 2005 there were reports that the Extended Copy Protection software included on some SONY Compact Discs includes portions of the LAME library without complying with the terms of the LGPL.[citation needed]" Well, afaik hacker known as 'myzzy' was the first to discover that the Sony rootkit had some strings from lame.exe, see [1] (do a search for "LAME") and also see this: [2]. I'd add them myself but the page is semiprotected and I've forgotten my password :p -- 84.250.196.123 19:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Uberstandard: "Many people think.." is a weasel phrase, overtly against Wikipedia general policy, and in my opinion a hedge around blatant bias which has no place in this article. This should simply say that thus and such listening test had the most positive results for LAME mp3. However, note that the study linked to twice places in bold text the reservations and apologies of the person who conducted the study, he himself putting forward that the study had serious flaws. So if the study is cited, it should also be noted that the conductor of the study has reservations, as is cited in the current iTunes article. -alexh -- 166.70.188.26 23:49, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Does Zune support LAME mp3s;? Swimg43 20:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't agree with the following quote: "Unfortunately, LAME codec hasn't been updated for a while, although the LAME v.4 development moved to alpha testing, after some time updates stopped and the codec itself is severely outdated."
a.) I wouldn't consider 13 months from the latest release as 'outdated'.
b.) There is continuing development if you check CVS, the box up the top right lists the latest preview as less than one month old
c.) I don't think leading that sentence with "Unfortunately" is appropriate for an encyclopaedia.
d.) If the 'severely outdated' reference was to stand I think there would need to be some kind of citation to back up that claim.
121.45.35.113 04:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering ( Amy Lamedes ( talk) 10:54, 8 December 2007 (UTC))
it is ture that reznor DID invent lame, but we're not talking about the same thing on this page. you nut. 122.49.182.109 ( talk) 06:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Is this really necessary? Practically any program that converts WAV to MP3 is LAME-compatible. I don't really see what this list adds to the article. EvilCouch ( talk) 08:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Main Page says, May 2007: default variable bitrate encoding speed is vastly improved. But the Lame Home page at Sourceforge says, Latest LAME release: v3.97 (September 2006). Did I/WE miss something ? DADSGETNDOWN ( talk) 01:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't sure if we should be including BETA versions or not, The version the site stuffs in your face to get is V3.97, Maybe we should update it to show the changes since May 2007 ? I feel they should only show finals. :) BTW is this reply formatted properly ?, my "lines" indented right ? only the first line looks right ? Also I have a unintended space after the word "updated?" Help ? DADSGETNDOWN ( talk) 21:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
The Mac OSX encoder LameBrain isn't supported anymore and uses an out-of-date LAME library (3.95). Should it stay in this list or should it be removed?. See the author's statement. Irina666 ( talk) 14:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Youtube uses LAME. Should this be noted, and where?-- Dwedit ( talk) 03:54, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
This edit needlessly reignited the GNU/Linux naming controversy by adding in disputed terms where they aren't needed (a Java binary runs on many platforms, for instance). It also removed a needed cleanup tag. It should be reverted. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 19:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
The entire first paragraph is lifted from the LAME website's front page, and needs to definitely be rewritten. I'm hesitant to outright remove it because it's so important to the article and the section. Gamersedge ( talk) 15:05, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
I noticed this pair of edits today. I like the fact that a link to the article about the rootkit scandal was added, but I'm not sure creating another section labeled "Controversy" is really the best way to go. This is already mentioned elsewhere in the article (search for the word "rootkit"), and it's not really a controversy about LAME per se. I think it should be merged into the existing mention, but with the article link included; the result will definitely be better than what was already there. CosineKitty ( talk) 21:16, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Someone recently deleted this from the article(!) without discussion. Green Cardamom ( talk) 15:09, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Deleted section "LAME-compatible software" |
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
==LAME-compatible software== Microsoft Windows
Mac OS X
GNU/Linux and other Unix-like operating systems
Cross platform
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