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According to his deleted MySpace blog, I believe he said he has a Ph.D. in computer information systems, not systems and communication sciences. Same thing different wording? I'd prefer the former. Neal 21:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC). (Edouard D.: I don't know but several decades later I graduated from the same place at UCLA, cs.ucla.edu, and today it is called Computer Science) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.171.125.148 ( talk) 09:22, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
The current bibliography of L. Stephen Coles is much improved over an earlier version. Because of questions about the accuracy of the earlier version, I sent a copy of a recent version to him on 11/15/07, and asked him if there were any inaccuracies in it. His response was, "It's OK, but two patents and over 100 papers in the scientific literature. -- Steve Coles." I have not attempted to verify his exceptions to the current version. Note that he did not volunteer this information, but that I requested it in order to ensure that there were no serious inaccuracies in the Wikipedia edition. Some personal information has been added since the version I sent him. StanPrimmer ( talk) 03:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
That mass of text is really difficult to edit, especially when written by some twerp who thinks that the world disappears when they close their eyes to sleep (non US, and likely some US, readers will not know what UCLA means - and this is supposed to be an reference source...) Is it possible to transfer some of the references elsewhere in the article? LessHeard vanU ( talk) 23:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Reading the article, I started wondering what actually makes this person notable. The article looks solid, but the references are in-passing mentions at best (so GNG is problematic) and the academic record is minimal (certainly doesn't meet WP:ACADEMIC). Is there anything more substantial here? -- Randykitty ( talk) 00:12, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Greetings,
What basis do you have for calling Dr Coles a "quack"? I have never known him to "peddle natural products" for money. That comment is inaccurate and offensive.
This man's death has been widely reported in the worldwide media. Also, here are further examples of his notability:
http://www.psr-la.org/alan-p-mintz-award-presented-to-l-stephen-coles-m-d-ph-d/ (Winning an award)
http://grg.org/ (Featured on a magazine)
The GRG is the World's leading authority on supercentenarian validation. Guinness World Records work with them when it comes to the world's oldest people records. It's also a group of scientists leading research in to ageing.
To pass off this man as a mere "quack" is an insult and is uninformed.
Ollie231213 ( talk) 19:33, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Randykitty, the facts about Coles' papers being cited some number of times and having an h-index of something rely solely on a primary source. Relying on primary sources in this case is a form of original research because it isn't enough that something be true; it has to be verifiable in reliable sources, too. Without a reliable secondary source we have no context for this information and no idea how much weight, if any, to give it in the article. Therefore, unless these facts have been discussed and interpreted by someone else in a reliable secondary source, they don't belong in the article and must be removed.
For the same reason, the sentence about his publishing some number of papers and holding the one patent must be removed. Thanks! Ca2james ( talk) 21:18, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
Dr Coles had more than 130 published scientific publications.
The current article on him does a disservice to his legacy by minimizing his accomplishments. Where's the November 14 journal article on the DNA testing of 17 supercentenarians? Where's the material on the amyloidosis autopsies of supercentenarians? Dr. Coles also had published papers in other fields, such as robotics and artificial intelligence, and he held a patent as well. But I see that some wish to focus on side issues.
Time will tell but in the long run, naysaying critics such as "Randykitty" will be shown to be uneducated on the subject of Dr. L. Stephen Coles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:A902:C200:253D:E1FD:491F:49FE ( talk) 02:39, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
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The user who did this was not Robert Young back then it was me under another username. But I have matured significantly since then. Timothy McGuire ( talk) 02:00, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
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According to his deleted MySpace blog, I believe he said he has a Ph.D. in computer information systems, not systems and communication sciences. Same thing different wording? I'd prefer the former. Neal 21:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC). (Edouard D.: I don't know but several decades later I graduated from the same place at UCLA, cs.ucla.edu, and today it is called Computer Science) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.171.125.148 ( talk) 09:22, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
The current bibliography of L. Stephen Coles is much improved over an earlier version. Because of questions about the accuracy of the earlier version, I sent a copy of a recent version to him on 11/15/07, and asked him if there were any inaccuracies in it. His response was, "It's OK, but two patents and over 100 papers in the scientific literature. -- Steve Coles." I have not attempted to verify his exceptions to the current version. Note that he did not volunteer this information, but that I requested it in order to ensure that there were no serious inaccuracies in the Wikipedia edition. Some personal information has been added since the version I sent him. StanPrimmer ( talk) 03:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
That mass of text is really difficult to edit, especially when written by some twerp who thinks that the world disappears when they close their eyes to sleep (non US, and likely some US, readers will not know what UCLA means - and this is supposed to be an reference source...) Is it possible to transfer some of the references elsewhere in the article? LessHeard vanU ( talk) 23:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Reading the article, I started wondering what actually makes this person notable. The article looks solid, but the references are in-passing mentions at best (so GNG is problematic) and the academic record is minimal (certainly doesn't meet WP:ACADEMIC). Is there anything more substantial here? -- Randykitty ( talk) 00:12, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Greetings,
What basis do you have for calling Dr Coles a "quack"? I have never known him to "peddle natural products" for money. That comment is inaccurate and offensive.
This man's death has been widely reported in the worldwide media. Also, here are further examples of his notability:
http://www.psr-la.org/alan-p-mintz-award-presented-to-l-stephen-coles-m-d-ph-d/ (Winning an award)
http://grg.org/ (Featured on a magazine)
The GRG is the World's leading authority on supercentenarian validation. Guinness World Records work with them when it comes to the world's oldest people records. It's also a group of scientists leading research in to ageing.
To pass off this man as a mere "quack" is an insult and is uninformed.
Ollie231213 ( talk) 19:33, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Randykitty, the facts about Coles' papers being cited some number of times and having an h-index of something rely solely on a primary source. Relying on primary sources in this case is a form of original research because it isn't enough that something be true; it has to be verifiable in reliable sources, too. Without a reliable secondary source we have no context for this information and no idea how much weight, if any, to give it in the article. Therefore, unless these facts have been discussed and interpreted by someone else in a reliable secondary source, they don't belong in the article and must be removed.
For the same reason, the sentence about his publishing some number of papers and holding the one patent must be removed. Thanks! Ca2james ( talk) 21:18, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
Dr Coles had more than 130 published scientific publications.
The current article on him does a disservice to his legacy by minimizing his accomplishments. Where's the November 14 journal article on the DNA testing of 17 supercentenarians? Where's the material on the amyloidosis autopsies of supercentenarians? Dr. Coles also had published papers in other fields, such as robotics and artificial intelligence, and he held a patent as well. But I see that some wish to focus on side issues.
Time will tell but in the long run, naysaying critics such as "Randykitty" will be shown to be uneducated on the subject of Dr. L. Stephen Coles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:A902:C200:253D:E1FD:491F:49FE ( talk) 02:39, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
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The user who did this was not Robert Young back then it was me under another username. But I have matured significantly since then. Timothy McGuire ( talk) 02:00, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=User:Robertyoung122 was the account im referring to.
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Robert and I have been talking about this. We both request that account be deleted. Timothy McGuire ( talk) 04:06, 24 February 2021 (UTC)