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"is a fermented mildly alcoholic beverage or beer"
Kvass may be mildly alcoholic, but it is definitely not beer. It is not nearly as strong as beer, around 1% and up to 2%, whereas beers are somewhat 4-5% and up to 12% (and more in some cases). But even more important — it's just another drink, it doesn't taste like beer :)-- Sascha. 09:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Kvass is an ancient beer. The production method dates back thousands of years. SilkTork 18:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
It is not beer, not ale, it is kvass. `' Míkka 19:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
This article is about "bread kvass". I have no idea the usage in English, but in Russia kvass may be traditionally made from every possible fruit or berry. In my childhood's village the most popular kvasses were from brusnika, golubika, apples and pears, especially from wild ones. Produced without any fermentation starters. I guess, it is cider or prehistoric ale (the latter article is quite poor in its historical part. " Fermented beverage" is even worse: it is simply a redirect to alcoholic beverage, which is plain wrong). `' Míkka 03:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Should this be merged with the Kombucha article? They are the same drink, just with differing histories which can be related in one article. What do people think? Malick78 ( talk) 18:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
As a Russian native, I would like to note that kvass is viewed here as a summer drink, and it is on the hottest days of the year that it is peddled on the streets. Almost nobody drinks it in cold winter months. I don't know why a foreigner insists on removing every mention of this fact. -- Ghirla -трёп- 21:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
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Can anybody add some text to explain what gira is and why the "gira" page redirects to this one? Rks13 ( talk) 22:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I removed the external links, here's why:
None of these links meet with WP:ELYES, as they are all short, easily integrated if worthwhile. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 17:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Reliable book sources say that the word root of kvass is the Russian word for leaven, or ferment. Yet, this fact was deleted from the article with the comment "leaven" is "zakvaska", not "kvas". I don't speak Russian, but it seems likely that kvass and zakvaska are of the same root. It may not be the literal modern word, but these words seem related and probably of Nordic origin, according to one source. Green Cardamom ( talk) 02:34, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
The below section was deleted with the comment "not a dictionary"
Encyclopedia articles often contain information also contained in dictionaries, there is cross over. Given the limited number of countries which drink kvass (a well defined small list), and the variety of names used, I believe it is important that we incorporate this information into the article. Perhaps as a footnote to the opening bold name. In addition I think it's worth mentioning since there are (or should be) redirects for these name variants, so that readers know which language the redirect is for. Green Cardamom ( talk) 02:40, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
There has been a very dedicated effort to remove mention of any commercial kvass brewers from the article. I believe this is a mistake. I do agree we need to watch out for commercial intention, but it would also be a disservice to the reader not to mention even a few of the largest or most important kvass brewers in Europe and North America. For example the article on beer would be useless if it didn't mention particular brand names of beer. I suggest we add mention of the largest and/or most important brewers of kvass into the article. Green Cardamom ( talk) 03:21, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Regarding this section:
It is important to illustrate Kvass' importance in Russian culture. Also Russian literature is the one place most non-Russian's will be exposed to Kvass. Green Cardamom ( talk) 01:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Therefore I am leaving only oe item of the above.
Hello, I think we can add Brottrunk or Bread drink as a similar drink that is produced in Germany. By far not as popular as Kvass and it relatively new to the market, with we compare, and not sold on the streets. Marie-Anne 92.225.81.241 ( talk) 08:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Kvas is not an aclohol drink in Russia in terms of the law. But if you drink it and drive - it can be your problem. PavelSI ( talk) 07:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
" Polish kwas; meaning "acid" in the 16th century" I don't exacly know how it is in other languages, but in present Polish 'kwas' means acid too ;) 78.88.250.68 ( talk) 09:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Polish kwas; meaning "acid" in the 16th century
I do not understand this information. The drink in question in Polish is not called "kwas", but "kwas chlebowy". The word "kwas" alone means something else, namely "acid", and not (or not only) "in the 16th century", but now! And the difference between "kwas" and "kwas chlebowy" is kinda like between "water" and "royal water". In practice, when you go to a store and ask "kwas", you are not going to be understood, because the the people in the store won't know what "acid" (!) you are willing to buy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.87.13.74 ( talk) 12:30, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
I think there is wrong understanding of company name Nikola, which produces kvass, as "not cola".Nikola in Russian sounds as male name.It is similar to Nikolas.I think that this word sounds too far for Russian ear to understand it as "not cola". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.73.149.123 ( talk) 04:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Not two. 76.120.17.197 ( talk) 16:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
I think that should be "kvas" with one "s". Check czech, polish and russian vesion of article. Asab —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.26.251.160 ( talk) 21:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Kvass is enjoyed in many countries and by people of many languages. Thus we created a sub-section where the many translations of the word kvass are listed. There are so many variations that it doesn't make sense to list them in the first sentence of the lead section, there are too many to cram into the first sentence. If you pick one language and favor it (eg. Russian), then someone else will add another one (eg. Belarus), then another one (eg. Polish) etc.. and the article becomes unreadable. It's been an ongoing problem with this article. The solution is list the variations in a separate section, alphabetically. It shows no favoritism. Green Cardamom ( talk) 21:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
According to our article, Bread kvass "is the most common type of kvass, so it is most commonly callsed [sic] simply "kvass"" .. then the article should be called " Kvass". The guidelines for article titles are based on what users expect to find when they look up Kvass. The article rename was done without discussion because it's not even clear we need a separate article, much less renaming this one to bread kvass. Kvass is kvass, the ingredients used in making it probably shouldn't necessitate a separate article. There's too much overlap and looks like a WP:CFORK confusing readers. -- Green C 14:32, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
OK, how about a compromise solution:
I will finish a careful split in my namespace and see it from there. -M.Altenmann >t 08:26, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Altenmann, sorry for this misunderstanding (my messing about with redirect pages was in an attempt to rename the original page back to its name, but it did not help at all and I just made things worse). I do know about flavoured variants of kvass - I first heard of them a few years ago when looking at this website: http://www.kwaschlebowy.eu/en/products and tried them not long afterwards (they are very nice by the way, but I recommend that company's traditional kvass more as it tastes best... also, all of their stuff is the real deal unlike the soft drinks in plastic bottles that just use the same name). However, you cannot do something as drastic as splitting a page that so many people have worked on without consensus or at least some sort of discussion. Moreover, do you really feel that a variant of kvass deserves a whole new article? Wouldn't it be better to add a paragraph to the opening section, mentioning that there are some other less common versions of kvass as well? With a source, of course. What do you think? Once again, I apologise if my actions have upset you in any way. -- Samotny Wędrowiec ( talk) 16:35, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
By the way, what the fuck with wikidata? I cannot set the English language in it to reconnect this kvass back into interwiki: I cannot read Chinese. -M.Altenmann >t 03:00, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Altenmann, now I understand the reasoning behind your edits. In all honesty, I admit that other types of kvass which aren't made from bread are completely alien to me. Of course, I know that fermenting various things can bring interesting results, but I didn't know that there were other types of kvass which weren't just flavoured bread kvass. As far as I'm aware, in Poland we have always had only kwas chlebowy (bread kvass), but I may be wrong as customs vary from region to region. In the present-day at least, the kvass we have in Polish stores is only bread kvass (or at least the vast majority of it is made using bread). Nevertheless, I would appreciate it if you could link us to some sources that talk about this as I've never heard of this before and can't find any sources for it. Moreover, the Russian, Polish and Ukrainian versions of this article all say the same as the English version in the opening section. -- Samotny Wędrowiec ( talk) 23:46, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Should be "kvas". One s.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.212.138.162 ( talk) 02:08, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
I suggest adding these similar world drinks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barley_water
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mugicha
Nope. This would be simply wrong. Kvass is fermented beverage, while these two are not. -- Khathi ( talk) 11:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
What about adding a reference to chhaang?
This is fermented, though perhaps not lacto-fermented as the list at end seems to require.
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> Although the introduction of western soft drinks such as Coca-Cola and Pepsi had reduced the commercial sale of kvass in Russia,
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It is spelled kvass in Oxford Dictionary and in Webster. I think these sources are more authoritative than "Dictionary of Beer and Brewing by Dan Rabin and Carl Forget". So this edit must be reverted. -- Off-shell ( talk) 14:50, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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I dont think so, but i leave it up for a debate here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.8.154.211 ( talk) 22:37, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
It's spelled 'kwass' a few times in the new edition (isn't necessarily wrong, just different). Please fix the inconsistency. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mzabaluev ( talk • contribs) 17:09, 4 June 2004 (UTC)
Kvasir reference: Delete maybe? Irrelevant methinks. elpincha 19:42, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
This wiki is focussed on bread kvass, but this is only a part of the 'kvass family'. There are many malt and fruit/vegetable kvass recipes that don't even use bread. I think that this should be mentioned somewhere, probably at the beginning? See the russian text for inspiration. Synethos ( talk) 14:35, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Polish za pazuchę is not "under the armpit" (putting something which is supposed to be eaten later under the armpit would be considered disgusting in Poland), it is "in the bosom". Armpit in Polish is not Pazucha but Pacha. Example:
Malarz przyglądał się memu pisaniu z pewnym zdziwieniem, a potem włożył zapieczętowany list za pazuchę.
The painter watched the entire process with some curiosity, and then put the sealed letter in his bosom.
(app.glosbe.com/tmem/show?id=-8268474606249297951) — Preceding
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@ Samotny Wędrowiec: I highly doubt the prank of shaking the carbonated beverage and having an unsuspecting person open it is a "customary game" unique to Zaława or even Poland, or that it is a noteworthy addition as a "cultural reference". I also don't see the significance of having a self-translation of some Polish song in the section as most if not all countries with significant kvass making and drinking traditions have songs like that. It is also unclear whether your addition about kvass being "known among the Early Slavs since the 10th century" is new information or just a rehashed overgeneralization of the Kievan Rus chronicles as a way for the Polish to try and stake their claim of the beverage, but referring to the Polish government on that seems a bit like referring to the Russian government on borscht.
What you wrote about Kievan Rus under the section "Belarus, Russia, Ukraine" (the merger of which is questionable in itself) is problematic for a number of reasons. As the map shows, Kievan Rus didn't only cover parts of modern-day Russia, Ukraine and Belarus and kvass in Kievan Rus is already described. Also, kvass couldn't have become "a national beverage of Russia and Ukraine in the 16th century", because there were no such countries back then. There is a good reason a clear separation exists between kvass in the multinational Kievan Rus and Russian Empire and the modern-day countries that fully or partially came out of them. – Turaids ( talk) 12:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
^I believe what you meant to say was: Make kvass... Latvian "again"? or, more accurately, Make kvass... anything but Slavic "again"! - Samotny Wędrowiec ( talk) 12:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia uses "Vladimir the Great" as its spelling convention. In this article, the reader is confused by first reating about kvass in the time of "Vladimir the Great" (linked to the main Vladimir the Great article) and then, as opposed to custom, the next time the Czar is mentioned, he is Vooldymyr the Great - and then the reader is re-sent to the Vladimir the Great page (it sho really should have just one link, indicating that the person has already been covered in the article's link above). El Cubedo ( talk) 18:23, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
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"is a fermented mildly alcoholic beverage or beer"
Kvass may be mildly alcoholic, but it is definitely not beer. It is not nearly as strong as beer, around 1% and up to 2%, whereas beers are somewhat 4-5% and up to 12% (and more in some cases). But even more important — it's just another drink, it doesn't taste like beer :)-- Sascha. 09:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Kvass is an ancient beer. The production method dates back thousands of years. SilkTork 18:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
It is not beer, not ale, it is kvass. `' Míkka 19:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
This article is about "bread kvass". I have no idea the usage in English, but in Russia kvass may be traditionally made from every possible fruit or berry. In my childhood's village the most popular kvasses were from brusnika, golubika, apples and pears, especially from wild ones. Produced without any fermentation starters. I guess, it is cider or prehistoric ale (the latter article is quite poor in its historical part. " Fermented beverage" is even worse: it is simply a redirect to alcoholic beverage, which is plain wrong). `' Míkka 03:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Should this be merged with the Kombucha article? They are the same drink, just with differing histories which can be related in one article. What do people think? Malick78 ( talk) 18:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
As a Russian native, I would like to note that kvass is viewed here as a summer drink, and it is on the hottest days of the year that it is peddled on the streets. Almost nobody drinks it in cold winter months. I don't know why a foreigner insists on removing every mention of this fact. -- Ghirla -трёп- 21:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
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Can anybody add some text to explain what gira is and why the "gira" page redirects to this one? Rks13 ( talk) 22:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I removed the external links, here's why:
None of these links meet with WP:ELYES, as they are all short, easily integrated if worthwhile. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 17:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Reliable book sources say that the word root of kvass is the Russian word for leaven, or ferment. Yet, this fact was deleted from the article with the comment "leaven" is "zakvaska", not "kvas". I don't speak Russian, but it seems likely that kvass and zakvaska are of the same root. It may not be the literal modern word, but these words seem related and probably of Nordic origin, according to one source. Green Cardamom ( talk) 02:34, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
The below section was deleted with the comment "not a dictionary"
Encyclopedia articles often contain information also contained in dictionaries, there is cross over. Given the limited number of countries which drink kvass (a well defined small list), and the variety of names used, I believe it is important that we incorporate this information into the article. Perhaps as a footnote to the opening bold name. In addition I think it's worth mentioning since there are (or should be) redirects for these name variants, so that readers know which language the redirect is for. Green Cardamom ( talk) 02:40, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
There has been a very dedicated effort to remove mention of any commercial kvass brewers from the article. I believe this is a mistake. I do agree we need to watch out for commercial intention, but it would also be a disservice to the reader not to mention even a few of the largest or most important kvass brewers in Europe and North America. For example the article on beer would be useless if it didn't mention particular brand names of beer. I suggest we add mention of the largest and/or most important brewers of kvass into the article. Green Cardamom ( talk) 03:21, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Regarding this section:
It is important to illustrate Kvass' importance in Russian culture. Also Russian literature is the one place most non-Russian's will be exposed to Kvass. Green Cardamom ( talk) 01:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Therefore I am leaving only oe item of the above.
Hello, I think we can add Brottrunk or Bread drink as a similar drink that is produced in Germany. By far not as popular as Kvass and it relatively new to the market, with we compare, and not sold on the streets. Marie-Anne 92.225.81.241 ( talk) 08:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Kvas is not an aclohol drink in Russia in terms of the law. But if you drink it and drive - it can be your problem. PavelSI ( talk) 07:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
" Polish kwas; meaning "acid" in the 16th century" I don't exacly know how it is in other languages, but in present Polish 'kwas' means acid too ;) 78.88.250.68 ( talk) 09:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Polish kwas; meaning "acid" in the 16th century
I do not understand this information. The drink in question in Polish is not called "kwas", but "kwas chlebowy". The word "kwas" alone means something else, namely "acid", and not (or not only) "in the 16th century", but now! And the difference between "kwas" and "kwas chlebowy" is kinda like between "water" and "royal water". In practice, when you go to a store and ask "kwas", you are not going to be understood, because the the people in the store won't know what "acid" (!) you are willing to buy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.87.13.74 ( talk) 12:30, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
I think there is wrong understanding of company name Nikola, which produces kvass, as "not cola".Nikola in Russian sounds as male name.It is similar to Nikolas.I think that this word sounds too far for Russian ear to understand it as "not cola". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.73.149.123 ( talk) 04:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Not two. 76.120.17.197 ( talk) 16:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
I think that should be "kvas" with one "s". Check czech, polish and russian vesion of article. Asab —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.26.251.160 ( talk) 21:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Kvass is enjoyed in many countries and by people of many languages. Thus we created a sub-section where the many translations of the word kvass are listed. There are so many variations that it doesn't make sense to list them in the first sentence of the lead section, there are too many to cram into the first sentence. If you pick one language and favor it (eg. Russian), then someone else will add another one (eg. Belarus), then another one (eg. Polish) etc.. and the article becomes unreadable. It's been an ongoing problem with this article. The solution is list the variations in a separate section, alphabetically. It shows no favoritism. Green Cardamom ( talk) 21:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
According to our article, Bread kvass "is the most common type of kvass, so it is most commonly callsed [sic] simply "kvass"" .. then the article should be called " Kvass". The guidelines for article titles are based on what users expect to find when they look up Kvass. The article rename was done without discussion because it's not even clear we need a separate article, much less renaming this one to bread kvass. Kvass is kvass, the ingredients used in making it probably shouldn't necessitate a separate article. There's too much overlap and looks like a WP:CFORK confusing readers. -- Green C 14:32, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
OK, how about a compromise solution:
I will finish a careful split in my namespace and see it from there. -M.Altenmann >t 08:26, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Altenmann, sorry for this misunderstanding (my messing about with redirect pages was in an attempt to rename the original page back to its name, but it did not help at all and I just made things worse). I do know about flavoured variants of kvass - I first heard of them a few years ago when looking at this website: http://www.kwaschlebowy.eu/en/products and tried them not long afterwards (they are very nice by the way, but I recommend that company's traditional kvass more as it tastes best... also, all of their stuff is the real deal unlike the soft drinks in plastic bottles that just use the same name). However, you cannot do something as drastic as splitting a page that so many people have worked on without consensus or at least some sort of discussion. Moreover, do you really feel that a variant of kvass deserves a whole new article? Wouldn't it be better to add a paragraph to the opening section, mentioning that there are some other less common versions of kvass as well? With a source, of course. What do you think? Once again, I apologise if my actions have upset you in any way. -- Samotny Wędrowiec ( talk) 16:35, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
By the way, what the fuck with wikidata? I cannot set the English language in it to reconnect this kvass back into interwiki: I cannot read Chinese. -M.Altenmann >t 03:00, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Altenmann, now I understand the reasoning behind your edits. In all honesty, I admit that other types of kvass which aren't made from bread are completely alien to me. Of course, I know that fermenting various things can bring interesting results, but I didn't know that there were other types of kvass which weren't just flavoured bread kvass. As far as I'm aware, in Poland we have always had only kwas chlebowy (bread kvass), but I may be wrong as customs vary from region to region. In the present-day at least, the kvass we have in Polish stores is only bread kvass (or at least the vast majority of it is made using bread). Nevertheless, I would appreciate it if you could link us to some sources that talk about this as I've never heard of this before and can't find any sources for it. Moreover, the Russian, Polish and Ukrainian versions of this article all say the same as the English version in the opening section. -- Samotny Wędrowiec ( talk) 23:46, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Should be "kvas". One s.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.212.138.162 ( talk) 02:08, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
I suggest adding these similar world drinks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barley_water
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mugicha
Nope. This would be simply wrong. Kvass is fermented beverage, while these two are not. -- Khathi ( talk) 11:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
What about adding a reference to chhaang?
This is fermented, though perhaps not lacto-fermented as the list at end seems to require.
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> Although the introduction of western soft drinks such as Coca-Cola and Pepsi had reduced the commercial sale of kvass in Russia,
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It is spelled kvass in Oxford Dictionary and in Webster. I think these sources are more authoritative than "Dictionary of Beer and Brewing by Dan Rabin and Carl Forget". So this edit must be reverted. -- Off-shell ( talk) 14:50, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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I dont think so, but i leave it up for a debate here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.8.154.211 ( talk) 22:37, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
It's spelled 'kwass' a few times in the new edition (isn't necessarily wrong, just different). Please fix the inconsistency. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mzabaluev ( talk • contribs) 17:09, 4 June 2004 (UTC)
Kvasir reference: Delete maybe? Irrelevant methinks. elpincha 19:42, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
This wiki is focussed on bread kvass, but this is only a part of the 'kvass family'. There are many malt and fruit/vegetable kvass recipes that don't even use bread. I think that this should be mentioned somewhere, probably at the beginning? See the russian text for inspiration. Synethos ( talk) 14:35, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Polish za pazuchę is not "under the armpit" (putting something which is supposed to be eaten later under the armpit would be considered disgusting in Poland), it is "in the bosom". Armpit in Polish is not Pazucha but Pacha. Example:
Malarz przyglądał się memu pisaniu z pewnym zdziwieniem, a potem włożył zapieczętowany list za pazuchę.
The painter watched the entire process with some curiosity, and then put the sealed letter in his bosom.
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@ Samotny Wędrowiec: I highly doubt the prank of shaking the carbonated beverage and having an unsuspecting person open it is a "customary game" unique to Zaława or even Poland, or that it is a noteworthy addition as a "cultural reference". I also don't see the significance of having a self-translation of some Polish song in the section as most if not all countries with significant kvass making and drinking traditions have songs like that. It is also unclear whether your addition about kvass being "known among the Early Slavs since the 10th century" is new information or just a rehashed overgeneralization of the Kievan Rus chronicles as a way for the Polish to try and stake their claim of the beverage, but referring to the Polish government on that seems a bit like referring to the Russian government on borscht.
What you wrote about Kievan Rus under the section "Belarus, Russia, Ukraine" (the merger of which is questionable in itself) is problematic for a number of reasons. As the map shows, Kievan Rus didn't only cover parts of modern-day Russia, Ukraine and Belarus and kvass in Kievan Rus is already described. Also, kvass couldn't have become "a national beverage of Russia and Ukraine in the 16th century", because there were no such countries back then. There is a good reason a clear separation exists between kvass in the multinational Kievan Rus and Russian Empire and the modern-day countries that fully or partially came out of them. – Turaids ( talk) 12:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
^I believe what you meant to say was: Make kvass... Latvian "again"? or, more accurately, Make kvass... anything but Slavic "again"! - Samotny Wędrowiec ( talk) 12:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia uses "Vladimir the Great" as its spelling convention. In this article, the reader is confused by first reating about kvass in the time of "Vladimir the Great" (linked to the main Vladimir the Great article) and then, as opposed to custom, the next time the Czar is mentioned, he is Vooldymyr the Great - and then the reader is re-sent to the Vladimir the Great page (it sho really should have just one link, indicating that the person has already been covered in the article's link above). El Cubedo ( talk) 18:23, 31 July 2023 (UTC)