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I'm not sure but it seems that Kursi is the same location as Gergesa. Should the two articles possibly be merged? -- PiMaster3 talk 01:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
The given coords put it inside the Armistice line on the Syrian side. Yazan ( talk) 05:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Since its east of the Sea of Galilee, its in Golan, so that would not be Israel. -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 11:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Fipplet, you added the Israel geo data here saying: "It's a disputed territory, either use both countries or none."
But the area is internationally recognized as part of Syria, and not of Israel, so you are putting the view of one country in the same position as the view of the international community.
I previously brought up that you arent applying the exact same reasoning to other articles: [1] where you aren't putting Palestine in the same position as Israel for other disputed territories. You claimed that you: "don't have the time", days later you created an article about a place in a disputed area, [2], and in this article you are stating that its located in Israel. So you obviously had the time to create that article, and you even had the time to ad that its located in Israel despite the dispute about the location being Palestine. So are you going to apply the same reasoning to that article as you have done here or not? "It's a disputed territory, either use both countries or none." -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 16:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
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It simply is not in the Golan Heights, at most at the foot of its western slopes, but it is indeed an ancient port city on the Sea of Galilee. I have no intention to go into politics, it's just plain physical geography. If anyone wants to, you can argue for "Kursi, Syria" for all I care, but that would make very little sense. Please mind that the ancient village or town had a large port on the lake. The History paragraph doesn't mention Arab (or any other) population beyond the 9th century, but Syrian towns and villages depopulated in the Arab–Israeli conflict does mention a "Kursi" - is it this one? Any additional info would be welcome. Arminden ( talk) 18:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Nableezy: same story again as at Caesarea Philippi, except that here it's even trickier: the 3 red dots can hardly be distinguished from the grey armistice line. 80-90% of the 2 maps show unrelated territory in monotonous single-colour featurelessness. Please, see if that regional "Golan Heights" map can be modified, whoever wrote "disputed" can write "occupied", or someone else can. (Now I see it was Kbh3rd.) Zero0000 is our King of the Maps, if not himself, I'm sure he knows who's good with writing stuff on existing maps. That one has the site in the centre, with many more details (of Syria too), the West Bank is separated by the same type of line as Lebanon or Jordan, so it's a good map for everybody, except for that stupid word. One intervention and the compromise is perfect. What do you say? I didn't "hound" you, I arrived here from the national parks list, but now I guess I know what your escalating conflict with Free1Soul is all about. Again, I don't care much about that aspect, but I hate to see a useful map replaced by a completely useless one, just in order to satisfy some I/P foo-fighter's crusading ambitions. So replace that word! (Sounds like a Trumpian slogan, I apologise for that :) Don't build that wall. Go with Reagan, tear down that wall.) Arminden ( talk) 03:13, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
Yes, this map covers two needs: location/overview, and detail. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. Think a bit outside the box. Boxes are square... Having one good map instead of two poor ones - what's wrong with that? Wiki is a work in progress, and we make the progress happen - or stall. Arminden ( talk) 14:04, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
But Zero, if you can replace the word my objections are lessened to the point I will not care anymore. nableezy - 15:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
Would be fine using this map (which is in the infobox of Golan Heights) if Zero can give coords to plug in the template. nableezy - 16:12, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
I made a new template that highlights the golan and only the golan. Is there any objection to what is now in the article? nableezy - 16:25, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
The topograpgy ALWAYS matters, and here even more than elsewhere. Kursi is all about a place with caves where swine allegedly leaped from a cliff or hill into the lake. All of this is nowadays a bit hard to visualise. Historically it's also about a port, but the waterline has shifted. It can't get more topograpgy-driven than that. Arminden ( talk) 18:15, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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I'm not sure but it seems that Kursi is the same location as Gergesa. Should the two articles possibly be merged? -- PiMaster3 talk 01:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
The given coords put it inside the Armistice line on the Syrian side. Yazan ( talk) 05:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Since its east of the Sea of Galilee, its in Golan, so that would not be Israel. -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 11:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Fipplet, you added the Israel geo data here saying: "It's a disputed territory, either use both countries or none."
But the area is internationally recognized as part of Syria, and not of Israel, so you are putting the view of one country in the same position as the view of the international community.
I previously brought up that you arent applying the exact same reasoning to other articles: [1] where you aren't putting Palestine in the same position as Israel for other disputed territories. You claimed that you: "don't have the time", days later you created an article about a place in a disputed area, [2], and in this article you are stating that its located in Israel. So you obviously had the time to create that article, and you even had the time to ad that its located in Israel despite the dispute about the location being Palestine. So are you going to apply the same reasoning to that article as you have done here or not? "It's a disputed territory, either use both countries or none." -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 16:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
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It simply is not in the Golan Heights, at most at the foot of its western slopes, but it is indeed an ancient port city on the Sea of Galilee. I have no intention to go into politics, it's just plain physical geography. If anyone wants to, you can argue for "Kursi, Syria" for all I care, but that would make very little sense. Please mind that the ancient village or town had a large port on the lake. The History paragraph doesn't mention Arab (or any other) population beyond the 9th century, but Syrian towns and villages depopulated in the Arab–Israeli conflict does mention a "Kursi" - is it this one? Any additional info would be welcome. Arminden ( talk) 18:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Nableezy: same story again as at Caesarea Philippi, except that here it's even trickier: the 3 red dots can hardly be distinguished from the grey armistice line. 80-90% of the 2 maps show unrelated territory in monotonous single-colour featurelessness. Please, see if that regional "Golan Heights" map can be modified, whoever wrote "disputed" can write "occupied", or someone else can. (Now I see it was Kbh3rd.) Zero0000 is our King of the Maps, if not himself, I'm sure he knows who's good with writing stuff on existing maps. That one has the site in the centre, with many more details (of Syria too), the West Bank is separated by the same type of line as Lebanon or Jordan, so it's a good map for everybody, except for that stupid word. One intervention and the compromise is perfect. What do you say? I didn't "hound" you, I arrived here from the national parks list, but now I guess I know what your escalating conflict with Free1Soul is all about. Again, I don't care much about that aspect, but I hate to see a useful map replaced by a completely useless one, just in order to satisfy some I/P foo-fighter's crusading ambitions. So replace that word! (Sounds like a Trumpian slogan, I apologise for that :) Don't build that wall. Go with Reagan, tear down that wall.) Arminden ( talk) 03:13, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
Yes, this map covers two needs: location/overview, and detail. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. Think a bit outside the box. Boxes are square... Having one good map instead of two poor ones - what's wrong with that? Wiki is a work in progress, and we make the progress happen - or stall. Arminden ( talk) 14:04, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
But Zero, if you can replace the word my objections are lessened to the point I will not care anymore. nableezy - 15:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
Would be fine using this map (which is in the infobox of Golan Heights) if Zero can give coords to plug in the template. nableezy - 16:12, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
I made a new template that highlights the golan and only the golan. Is there any objection to what is now in the article? nableezy - 16:25, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
The topograpgy ALWAYS matters, and here even more than elsewhere. Kursi is all about a place with caves where swine allegedly leaped from a cliff or hill into the lake. All of this is nowadays a bit hard to visualise. Historically it's also about a port, but the waterline has shifted. It can't get more topograpgy-driven than that. Arminden ( talk) 18:15, 16 October 2021 (UTC)