This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
![]() | This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | The following Wikipedia contributors may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include
conflict of interest,
autobiography, and
neutral point of view. Their edits to this article were last checked for neutrality on 2023-05-19 by Fourthords.
|
![]() | Reference ideas for Kristin Goodwin The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:
|
Novabrahm ( talk · contribs) moved the article from Kristin Goodwin to Kristin E. Goodwin on 18 June 2019 at 03:29 UTC saying, "Middle initial is more clear". I performed a couple of basic Google Searches and found that "'Kristin Goodwin' 'Air Force'" came back with 12600 results, while "'Kristin E. Goodwin' 'Air Force'" only returned 1480 hits. Her official USAF biography includes the "E", while her flight suit does not. I want to suggest we eschew the "E", but wanted to bring it up for discussion, first. — fourthords | =Λ= | 21:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Since these have been implemented, is there any SOP for which positions-held warrant such templates? I would generally only advocate for listing positions that have their own articles (e.g. Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force). If that's not the established consensus, then Goodwin has been an actual commander of several units that have their own articles (as opposed to a chief of staff position), but KingEdinburgh ( talk · contribs) didn't include those, and I don't understand why. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 00:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Gen Goodwin retired Dec 31 2021. She divorced in 2020 and remarried in Dec 2021. Best way to properly update? FarmGirlRR4 ( talk) 19:03, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
So
FarmGirlRR4 (
talk ·
contribs) is continuing to edit without discussing the details thereof, and they're finding themselves reverted yet again. First of all,
these two edits don't pass muster due to our
reliable sources guideline, which I linked above last October; that guideline requires that additions to articles be cited to reliable published sources, and El Paso County, CO License # C000249565
doesn't meet that requirement.
Furthermore, even if there were sources for adding new information, it doesn't explain the removal of the previous information cited to sources; please don't do that. Lastly, I've yet to see any rationale for removing the 1993 photo of Goodwin. Please join us in this discussion before you find yourself blocked for what I believe are well-intentioned edits. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 23:32, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I appreciate your attention to General Goodwin's profile, but after discussing with her personally, she wants these changes as they are the truth and read better for the end user. Can you tell me what the issue is please? And why you keep changing it? Thank you in advance. Pagecd ( talk) 13:14, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Do not edit Wikipedia in your own interests, nor in the interests of your external relationships.That doesn't apply this discussion page, it should be said. As for the edits themselves:
All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.Now, it can be assumed that she divorced, but (a) that's original research, and (b) the source we have for the subsequent marriage isn't great.
Making bold edits is encouraged, as it will result in either improving an article or stimulating discussion. If your edit gets reverted, do not revert again. Instead, begin a discussion with the person who reverted your change.— Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:19, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
![]() | This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | The following Wikipedia contributors may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include
conflict of interest,
autobiography, and
neutral point of view. Their edits to this article were last checked for neutrality on 2023-05-19 by Fourthords.
|
![]() | Reference ideas for Kristin Goodwin The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:
|
Novabrahm ( talk · contribs) moved the article from Kristin Goodwin to Kristin E. Goodwin on 18 June 2019 at 03:29 UTC saying, "Middle initial is more clear". I performed a couple of basic Google Searches and found that "'Kristin Goodwin' 'Air Force'" came back with 12600 results, while "'Kristin E. Goodwin' 'Air Force'" only returned 1480 hits. Her official USAF biography includes the "E", while her flight suit does not. I want to suggest we eschew the "E", but wanted to bring it up for discussion, first. — fourthords | =Λ= | 21:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Since these have been implemented, is there any SOP for which positions-held warrant such templates? I would generally only advocate for listing positions that have their own articles (e.g. Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force). If that's not the established consensus, then Goodwin has been an actual commander of several units that have their own articles (as opposed to a chief of staff position), but KingEdinburgh ( talk · contribs) didn't include those, and I don't understand why. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 00:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Gen Goodwin retired Dec 31 2021. She divorced in 2020 and remarried in Dec 2021. Best way to properly update? FarmGirlRR4 ( talk) 19:03, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
So
FarmGirlRR4 (
talk ·
contribs) is continuing to edit without discussing the details thereof, and they're finding themselves reverted yet again. First of all,
these two edits don't pass muster due to our
reliable sources guideline, which I linked above last October; that guideline requires that additions to articles be cited to reliable published sources, and El Paso County, CO License # C000249565
doesn't meet that requirement.
Furthermore, even if there were sources for adding new information, it doesn't explain the removal of the previous information cited to sources; please don't do that. Lastly, I've yet to see any rationale for removing the 1993 photo of Goodwin. Please join us in this discussion before you find yourself blocked for what I believe are well-intentioned edits. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 23:32, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I appreciate your attention to General Goodwin's profile, but after discussing with her personally, she wants these changes as they are the truth and read better for the end user. Can you tell me what the issue is please? And why you keep changing it? Thank you in advance. Pagecd ( talk) 13:14, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Do not edit Wikipedia in your own interests, nor in the interests of your external relationships.That doesn't apply this discussion page, it should be said. As for the edits themselves:
All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.Now, it can be assumed that she divorced, but (a) that's original research, and (b) the source we have for the subsequent marriage isn't great.
Making bold edits is encouraged, as it will result in either improving an article or stimulating discussion. If your edit gets reverted, do not revert again. Instead, begin a discussion with the person who reverted your change.— Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:19, 19 May 2023 (UTC)