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Moving the wordlist to Wiktionary

This article previously contained [1] a magnificent list of Korean swearwords. However, Wikipedia is not a dictionary, so it is not appropriate here. However, these word entries would fit perfectly in Wiktionary, please feel free to move them there.

You might want to look at the Latin profanity article to see what can be done to treat profanity in an encyclopedic way without using massive wordlists.

-- The Anome 23:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC) reply

The quality of the list was very low as well. Again, WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a dictionary, so please don't reinstate the list, people. -- Kjoon lee 04:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply

purpose of this article

The purpose of this article was to categorize those worse into several subcategories (such as, words related to genitalia, intercourse, etc.) and add etymology etc. I don't agree with deleting the list. i don't care about Wikipedian policy, i just think that including information is better than leaving the page blank. it just needs some help. Janviermichelle 06:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply

Please reconsider. If you don't care about Wikipedian policy, you can leave Wikipedia, if you wish. And of course, WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. -- Kjoon lee 07:41, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply
thanks for the tip. but i still think that leaving the list is a better idea so that people can edit/update and improve it. profanity, is a big part of everyday language, and i think that there should be an article about it. what we should do is improving it, not deleting it. that's my suggestion as a newcomer to wikipedia. Janviermichelle 08:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply
I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. I apologise. WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not an experiment in rule making, so I didn't really need to brandish the rules. I'm sorry for that too. -- Kjoon lee 12:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply
I do agree with Wikipedian policy, but I do believe that leaving the list on as a start in order to get it improved is better than just plainly deleting this. I would suggest putting it back, some people with good knowledge of Korean language etc should look at it and add etymologies etc. to make it a good article, but at least that list is a start... Enni84 09:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply
This isn't Everything2, folks. If it's against policy, it won't stay.
There's nothing against an article about Korean profanity; if there's properly-researched material, go on and add it right away.
However, beware that users adding etymologies would be against WP:OR, unless people were to look up books on Korean profanity. -- Kjoon lee 10:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Please read WP:IAR and, for that matter, WP:DICK. ugen64 04:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC) reply
Please reread WP:IAR. The rules I mentioned don't stop you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia's quality. I'll be a dick if I have to, and I have a right to avoid WP:DICK, according to WP:IAR. -- Kjoon lee 05:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC) reply
I noticed that the content of most of the articles in Category:Profanity by language was similar to the content of this article as it was before it was edited by Kjoonlee. Somebody should be BOLD and blank those pages as well. Or perhaps we can collaboratively and constructively categorize the list of 욕 with the end of making an encyclopedic article. Javiskefka 21:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC) reply

I actually disagree -- at the very minimum I am ambivalent. While the argument would be correct for normal "dictionary-fodder" type vocabulary, swearing is perhaps best viewed as a kind of little documented cultural art form, and as such it is appropriate to give some examples so people can get both the flavour of the experience and a sense of how the geographical region or a particular group swears. For example, I am from Quebec in Canada where the strongest form of swearing involves words for certain Christian religious ideas, while in English Canada these are felt to be mild, and sexual or excrement related terms are considered stronger. I used to live in the Himalayas and the group I mostly spent time with often drew on mythology for insults, rather than sexual words. It was notably more refined and sardonicly intelligent than on the plains below.

Please put the Korean word list list back. I spend a lot of time with Koreans and would love to know the meanings of some of what I think I am hearing pretty often. Wikipedia, at root, should be useful, and keep in mind that providing a smile here and there is not a vice. Grrr!-- FurnaldHall ( talk) 08:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Examples?

Examples, please? -- Candy-Panda 04:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Since Wikipedia is not a language guide or dictionary, we would have to add descriptions or analysis from reliable sources. Nobody has found any yet, so we can't add examples. -- Kjoon lee 22:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Moving the wordlist to Wiktionary

This article previously contained [1] a magnificent list of Korean swearwords. However, Wikipedia is not a dictionary, so it is not appropriate here. However, these word entries would fit perfectly in Wiktionary, please feel free to move them there.

You might want to look at the Latin profanity article to see what can be done to treat profanity in an encyclopedic way without using massive wordlists.

-- The Anome 23:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC) reply

The quality of the list was very low as well. Again, WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a dictionary, so please don't reinstate the list, people. -- Kjoon lee 04:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply

purpose of this article

The purpose of this article was to categorize those worse into several subcategories (such as, words related to genitalia, intercourse, etc.) and add etymology etc. I don't agree with deleting the list. i don't care about Wikipedian policy, i just think that including information is better than leaving the page blank. it just needs some help. Janviermichelle 06:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply

Please reconsider. If you don't care about Wikipedian policy, you can leave Wikipedia, if you wish. And of course, WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. -- Kjoon lee 07:41, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply
thanks for the tip. but i still think that leaving the list is a better idea so that people can edit/update and improve it. profanity, is a big part of everyday language, and i think that there should be an article about it. what we should do is improving it, not deleting it. that's my suggestion as a newcomer to wikipedia. Janviermichelle 08:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply
I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. I apologise. WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not an experiment in rule making, so I didn't really need to brandish the rules. I'm sorry for that too. -- Kjoon lee 12:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply
I do agree with Wikipedian policy, but I do believe that leaving the list on as a start in order to get it improved is better than just plainly deleting this. I would suggest putting it back, some people with good knowledge of Korean language etc should look at it and add etymologies etc. to make it a good article, but at least that list is a start... Enni84 09:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply
This isn't Everything2, folks. If it's against policy, it won't stay.
There's nothing against an article about Korean profanity; if there's properly-researched material, go on and add it right away.
However, beware that users adding etymologies would be against WP:OR, unless people were to look up books on Korean profanity. -- Kjoon lee 10:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Please read WP:IAR and, for that matter, WP:DICK. ugen64 04:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC) reply
Please reread WP:IAR. The rules I mentioned don't stop you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia's quality. I'll be a dick if I have to, and I have a right to avoid WP:DICK, according to WP:IAR. -- Kjoon lee 05:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC) reply
I noticed that the content of most of the articles in Category:Profanity by language was similar to the content of this article as it was before it was edited by Kjoonlee. Somebody should be BOLD and blank those pages as well. Or perhaps we can collaboratively and constructively categorize the list of 욕 with the end of making an encyclopedic article. Javiskefka 21:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC) reply

I actually disagree -- at the very minimum I am ambivalent. While the argument would be correct for normal "dictionary-fodder" type vocabulary, swearing is perhaps best viewed as a kind of little documented cultural art form, and as such it is appropriate to give some examples so people can get both the flavour of the experience and a sense of how the geographical region or a particular group swears. For example, I am from Quebec in Canada where the strongest form of swearing involves words for certain Christian religious ideas, while in English Canada these are felt to be mild, and sexual or excrement related terms are considered stronger. I used to live in the Himalayas and the group I mostly spent time with often drew on mythology for insults, rather than sexual words. It was notably more refined and sardonicly intelligent than on the plains below.

Please put the Korean word list list back. I spend a lot of time with Koreans and would love to know the meanings of some of what I think I am hearing pretty often. Wikipedia, at root, should be useful, and keep in mind that providing a smile here and there is not a vice. Grrr!-- FurnaldHall ( talk) 08:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Examples?

Examples, please? -- Candy-Panda 04:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Since Wikipedia is not a language guide or dictionary, we would have to add descriptions or analysis from reliable sources. Nobody has found any yet, so we can't add examples. -- Kjoon lee 22:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC) reply

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