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As I understand the definition of an empire, according to what I've seen on wiki anyhow, the Lunda state is a kingdom and not an empire. The people who controlled this state were the majority population. The people it brought into the state were usually tribes or clans from the same ethnic group. That being said, the Lunda seem to fit more a nation-model than an empire model. By contrast, the Mandinka, the British, the Romans and Songhai were virtual minorities within their respective empires. Size wise, the Lunda look like an empire. No doubt about that. But politics wise, they were a pretty homogenous kingdom (ethnic-wise) or at minimum a confederation of very similar tribes. That being said, I'm going to move the page from Lunda Empire to Kingdom of Lunda. I will maintain a redirect for the Lunda Empire tho, since that term does appear in literature quite a bit. CHEERS Scott Free ( talk) 05:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
As I understand it, the Lunda empire continued to exist under Belgian colonial rule with a degree of autonomy. If that's indeed the case, when did the kingdom "end"? I very much doubt 1887 as currently stated. — Brigade Piron ( talk) 21:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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As I understand the definition of an empire, according to what I've seen on wiki anyhow, the Lunda state is a kingdom and not an empire. The people who controlled this state were the majority population. The people it brought into the state were usually tribes or clans from the same ethnic group. That being said, the Lunda seem to fit more a nation-model than an empire model. By contrast, the Mandinka, the British, the Romans and Songhai were virtual minorities within their respective empires. Size wise, the Lunda look like an empire. No doubt about that. But politics wise, they were a pretty homogenous kingdom (ethnic-wise) or at minimum a confederation of very similar tribes. That being said, I'm going to move the page from Lunda Empire to Kingdom of Lunda. I will maintain a redirect for the Lunda Empire tho, since that term does appear in literature quite a bit. CHEERS Scott Free ( talk) 05:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
As I understand it, the Lunda empire continued to exist under Belgian colonial rule with a degree of autonomy. If that's indeed the case, when did the kingdom "end"? I very much doubt 1887 as currently stated. — Brigade Piron ( talk) 21:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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