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I was looking at the citations for the Kingdom of Loathing page and found that a good number of them are:
I mention this because one of the pages I was trying to unprotect
Marapets a little while back was denied unprotection because a lot of the citations I provided had some of THAT content as well. I could only find one Magazine citation where it was mentioned that the economy of the United States was indeed affected somewhat by people spending money on sites like Marapets. This is the page which clearly mentions Marapets:
http://www.forbes.com/2008/07/25/amazon-google-facebook-ent-tech-cx_kw_0725whartonwebpreneur.html
I also included the Quantcast ranking for Marapets (9,130):
http://www.quantcast.com/marapets.com
The Alexa ranking for Marapets (13,957): http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/marapets.com
I want to know WHY I was denied to re-create the Marapets page yet, a similar game site like KOL is still here with rankings MUCH lower than Marapets:
Kingdom of Loathing Alexa Ranking (22,423):
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/kingdomofloathing.com
Kingdom of Loathing Quantcast Ranking (24,763): http://www.quantcast.com/kingdomofloathing.com
I want to know if Wikipedia chooses to take preference for certain games, and why would that be? I thought Wikipedia was supposed to be BOLD and NEUTRAL. It is a good thing I decided to look these things up. I also DO NOT agree with the Marapets article deleted in the first place. I do not consider the choice a good OR FAIR one.
-- Molokaicreeper ( talk) 01:18, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
-The forum messages linked are official statements from the game's creators.
-ibid
-Such blogs link to interviews with gamestaff, etc.
-Plenty of pages link to game reviews... it's standard Wiki practice.
-The KoL Wiki (and KoL Coldfront) are not unofficial. They are linked directly on the Kingdom of Loathing homepage and have received the official blessing from the gamestaff.
The references are sound and within the Wiki's standards. I would bring the Marapets article to a Wikiadmin's attention if you feel the page should be restored.-- LordHuffnPuff ( talk) 02:21, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
For anyone still interestede in updating this article theres a relatively recent interview at http://www.diygamer.com/2010/05/years-kingdom-loathing-interview/ that looks like it could be useful. Danie Tei ( talk) 21:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Hasn't been much movement on this page in a while I'm hoping to change that.
The history section in particular is a problem for me. There is NO good reason for the grey plague to be in the article, there have been numerous similar in game events since and quite frankly I didn't think it was that notable when it was one of the few events the game had.
Black Sunday and White Wednesday may actually warrant mentions given that had a serious effect on the games design as well as a non ingame reson for their implementation but I don't think it's enough to warrant their own headings and in-depth explanation.
Unless I hear a good reason not to or a large number of people disagreeing I'm looking to cut most of it in the next few days. Danie Tei ( talk) 12:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
The article manages to describe the Ascension feature without explaining what it is. I'd add this in myself, but I don't play the game.- Zyrath ( talk) 22:03, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you for your review! I'll try to fix these issues in the next couple of days. -- Cerebellum ( talk) 11:28, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Due to a lack of player donations, the creators of the game have implemented advertising (rather poorly too). All the mentions to the donation only model need to be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.167.80.65 ( talk) 15:03, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Are there still or are there not ads? I used to play this 2003-2005 and never saw ads. I'll try to dig up my account on their forums and ask, if the account still works. They probably went and disabled it because it was a moderator account. Are you ready for IPv6? ( talk) 20:35, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
I found my account and searched their forums. They used to have Google ads
http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showthread.php?t=207997 but they switched KoL-style ads
http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showthread.php?t=208240 . 20:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Josh Nite was fired from Asymmetric Publications on the 15th of November 2014. As one of the main designers of KoL, I'm unsure how to edit this article accordingly (but it is fair to say he is no longer operating the game). -- JohnDoe244 ( talk) 22:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 17:48, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
game is a good example for fascist totalitarianism in an online community. voice any opinion to the regime or even towards/against/about anything randomly decided by moderators who don't have to report to any superior and you will immediately (and even perma-)banned - no appeal is possible. quite often you just get banned randomly (I was once banned temporarily for wanting to do a giveaway - no joke!). and the large majority of players absolutely supports and advocates this behavior. since speaking openly will lead to bans, people disagreeing with the way asymmetric runs the game have to literally converse in secret with only each other. the culture of fear that is enforced in KoL is something you would never expect to see in an online video game and deserves being noted in the article.
asymmetric quite literally stole 3 years of my playing time and 1000$ in donations from me and are with a huge margin the worst video game developer I have ever experienced, if not the worst company itself.-- User:193.170.86.132, 15:16, :17, & :19, 22 October 2018
Hello, I was the editor that nominated this for GA back in 2011. I haven't updated it since, and I don't play the game anymore so I don't know if it is still accurate. Four citation needed tags and some questionable sources (kickstarter, the Radio KoL website). Does anybody object to me delisting the article? I'll give it a week or so and then proceed. -- Cerebellum ( talk) 10:58, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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I was looking at the citations for the Kingdom of Loathing page and found that a good number of them are:
I mention this because one of the pages I was trying to unprotect
Marapets a little while back was denied unprotection because a lot of the citations I provided had some of THAT content as well. I could only find one Magazine citation where it was mentioned that the economy of the United States was indeed affected somewhat by people spending money on sites like Marapets. This is the page which clearly mentions Marapets:
http://www.forbes.com/2008/07/25/amazon-google-facebook-ent-tech-cx_kw_0725whartonwebpreneur.html
I also included the Quantcast ranking for Marapets (9,130):
http://www.quantcast.com/marapets.com
The Alexa ranking for Marapets (13,957): http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/marapets.com
I want to know WHY I was denied to re-create the Marapets page yet, a similar game site like KOL is still here with rankings MUCH lower than Marapets:
Kingdom of Loathing Alexa Ranking (22,423):
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/kingdomofloathing.com
Kingdom of Loathing Quantcast Ranking (24,763): http://www.quantcast.com/kingdomofloathing.com
I want to know if Wikipedia chooses to take preference for certain games, and why would that be? I thought Wikipedia was supposed to be BOLD and NEUTRAL. It is a good thing I decided to look these things up. I also DO NOT agree with the Marapets article deleted in the first place. I do not consider the choice a good OR FAIR one.
-- Molokaicreeper ( talk) 01:18, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
-The forum messages linked are official statements from the game's creators.
-ibid
-Such blogs link to interviews with gamestaff, etc.
-Plenty of pages link to game reviews... it's standard Wiki practice.
-The KoL Wiki (and KoL Coldfront) are not unofficial. They are linked directly on the Kingdom of Loathing homepage and have received the official blessing from the gamestaff.
The references are sound and within the Wiki's standards. I would bring the Marapets article to a Wikiadmin's attention if you feel the page should be restored.-- LordHuffnPuff ( talk) 02:21, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
For anyone still interestede in updating this article theres a relatively recent interview at http://www.diygamer.com/2010/05/years-kingdom-loathing-interview/ that looks like it could be useful. Danie Tei ( talk) 21:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Hasn't been much movement on this page in a while I'm hoping to change that.
The history section in particular is a problem for me. There is NO good reason for the grey plague to be in the article, there have been numerous similar in game events since and quite frankly I didn't think it was that notable when it was one of the few events the game had.
Black Sunday and White Wednesday may actually warrant mentions given that had a serious effect on the games design as well as a non ingame reson for their implementation but I don't think it's enough to warrant their own headings and in-depth explanation.
Unless I hear a good reason not to or a large number of people disagreeing I'm looking to cut most of it in the next few days. Danie Tei ( talk) 12:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
The article manages to describe the Ascension feature without explaining what it is. I'd add this in myself, but I don't play the game.- Zyrath ( talk) 22:03, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Astrocog ( talk · contribs) 22:16, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your review! I'll try to fix these issues in the next couple of days. -- Cerebellum ( talk) 11:28, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Due to a lack of player donations, the creators of the game have implemented advertising (rather poorly too). All the mentions to the donation only model need to be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.167.80.65 ( talk) 15:03, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Are there still or are there not ads? I used to play this 2003-2005 and never saw ads. I'll try to dig up my account on their forums and ask, if the account still works. They probably went and disabled it because it was a moderator account. Are you ready for IPv6? ( talk) 20:35, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
I found my account and searched their forums. They used to have Google ads
http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showthread.php?t=207997 but they switched KoL-style ads
http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showthread.php?t=208240 . 20:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Josh Nite was fired from Asymmetric Publications on the 15th of November 2014. As one of the main designers of KoL, I'm unsure how to edit this article accordingly (but it is fair to say he is no longer operating the game). -- JohnDoe244 ( talk) 22:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to one external link on
Kingdom of Loathing. Please take a moment to review
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 17:48, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
game is a good example for fascist totalitarianism in an online community. voice any opinion to the regime or even towards/against/about anything randomly decided by moderators who don't have to report to any superior and you will immediately (and even perma-)banned - no appeal is possible. quite often you just get banned randomly (I was once banned temporarily for wanting to do a giveaway - no joke!). and the large majority of players absolutely supports and advocates this behavior. since speaking openly will lead to bans, people disagreeing with the way asymmetric runs the game have to literally converse in secret with only each other. the culture of fear that is enforced in KoL is something you would never expect to see in an online video game and deserves being noted in the article.
asymmetric quite literally stole 3 years of my playing time and 1000$ in donations from me and are with a huge margin the worst video game developer I have ever experienced, if not the worst company itself.-- User:193.170.86.132, 15:16, :17, & :19, 22 October 2018
Hello, I was the editor that nominated this for GA back in 2011. I haven't updated it since, and I don't play the game anymore so I don't know if it is still accurate. Four citation needed tags and some questionable sources (kickstarter, the Radio KoL website). Does anybody object to me delisting the article? I'll give it a week or so and then proceed. -- Cerebellum ( talk) 10:58, 4 June 2022 (UTC)