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Quite a bunch of sources say she was born 1224, when Bela was 18. The catholic encyclopedia say 1224, both Italian and in English. http://www.santiebeati.it/dettaglio/91017. [1] This too. [2] This too. [3] [4] I am affraid it will be difficult to change this based on one source. Hafspajen ( talk) 03:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Maria and Béla IV of Hungary had ten children:
This source say different. I don't know about this source. ref>The Annales Cracovienses Compilati records the birth in 1234 of Kinga filia Bolezlay ( Annales Cracovienses Compilati 1234, Monumenta Germaniæ Historica Scriptorum XIX, p. 597), the Annales Polonorum clarifying that she was Kinga fila regis Ungarie Bele et de matre Maria born in dominica quinquagesima (Annales Polonorum I 1234, Monumenta Germaniæ Historica Scriptorum XIX, p. 632).</ref Hafspajen ( talk) 04:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
I have no expertise in this field, but this would seem to be an important note, the gist of which is that the passage in question (sc. "in the year 1234 was born Kinga, daughter of Bolezlay") is corrupted, and that the more correct form of the passage is to be found in the entry for a. 1234 in the Annales Polonorum I, where we read that "in the year 1234, on March fifth, was born Kinga, daughter of Béla, the King of Hungary, and from a mother whose name was Maria, and Bolezlaus (the son of Leszek) ... took her as wife."Locus corruptus. Rectius in Ann. Pol. I. IV: nascitur Kinga filia regis Ungariae Bele et de matre nomine Maria in dominica quinquagesima (Mart. 5.), quam duxit Bolezlaus filius Lestconis. Cf. Gesch. Pol. I, 497. et Dlugoss. I, 663, quo loco a. 1204. errore typographi pro a. 1234. legitur. Miraculum, quod autor l. l. narravit, invenies in Ann. Pol. I. ad a. 1239. Vitam Kunegundis a Dlugosso conscriptum ediderunt Bolandistae ad 24. Iulii.
That's the essence of the editorial note for the year 1234 in the Annales Cracovienses Compilati. I should add that the "miracle" mentioned here by the Pertz refers to the entry for a. 1239 in the Annales Polonorum I, which reports that Bolesław took Kinga as "a good and holy wife" when she was but 5 years old: and then, as yet unable to speak, she miraculously uttered her first words Ave regina!, or "hail, queen!" (Compare this to the Annales Polonorum II, where Kinga is said to be wed to Bolesław in the year 1274 [when she would have been 40], with no attendant miracle.) I should also add that, in another editorial note to the year 1239 of the Annales capituli Cracoviensis, Pertz explains that, despite conflicting records, there can be no doubt that it was in the year 1239 that Bolesław took Kinga as his wife (he cites the diploma of one Grymislava, which confirms that the "marriage" took place in 1239). If Pertz is indeed correct, then I would suggest that the Wiki article for Kinga, which currently reads "She reluctantly married Bolesław V", needs to be revised, as I do not think it makes sense to talk about 5-year-olds reluctantly marrying anyone ("forcibly" would be a more appropriate adverb, no?). Eltheodigraeardgesece ( talk) 20:58, 17 February 2015 (UTC)(Continuing with the content of the editorial note:) See volume 1 of Geschichte Polens (?), p. 497, and also volume 1, p. 663 of the Historia Polonica of John Dlu'Gloss, where, because of a typographical error, the year "1204" is printed in place of the year "1234". You will find a miracle (described by the author in that same book [sc. Historica Polonica]), in the entry for a. 1239 of the Annales Polonorum I. The Life of Kinga (or Cunegunda) that was written by Dlu'Gloss was published by the Bollandists on the 24th of July.
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Quite a bunch of sources say she was born 1224, when Bela was 18. The catholic encyclopedia say 1224, both Italian and in English. http://www.santiebeati.it/dettaglio/91017. [1] This too. [2] This too. [3] [4] I am affraid it will be difficult to change this based on one source. Hafspajen ( talk) 03:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Maria and Béla IV of Hungary had ten children:
This source say different. I don't know about this source. ref>The Annales Cracovienses Compilati records the birth in 1234 of Kinga filia Bolezlay ( Annales Cracovienses Compilati 1234, Monumenta Germaniæ Historica Scriptorum XIX, p. 597), the Annales Polonorum clarifying that she was Kinga fila regis Ungarie Bele et de matre Maria born in dominica quinquagesima (Annales Polonorum I 1234, Monumenta Germaniæ Historica Scriptorum XIX, p. 632).</ref Hafspajen ( talk) 04:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
I have no expertise in this field, but this would seem to be an important note, the gist of which is that the passage in question (sc. "in the year 1234 was born Kinga, daughter of Bolezlay") is corrupted, and that the more correct form of the passage is to be found in the entry for a. 1234 in the Annales Polonorum I, where we read that "in the year 1234, on March fifth, was born Kinga, daughter of Béla, the King of Hungary, and from a mother whose name was Maria, and Bolezlaus (the son of Leszek) ... took her as wife."Locus corruptus. Rectius in Ann. Pol. I. IV: nascitur Kinga filia regis Ungariae Bele et de matre nomine Maria in dominica quinquagesima (Mart. 5.), quam duxit Bolezlaus filius Lestconis. Cf. Gesch. Pol. I, 497. et Dlugoss. I, 663, quo loco a. 1204. errore typographi pro a. 1234. legitur. Miraculum, quod autor l. l. narravit, invenies in Ann. Pol. I. ad a. 1239. Vitam Kunegundis a Dlugosso conscriptum ediderunt Bolandistae ad 24. Iulii.
That's the essence of the editorial note for the year 1234 in the Annales Cracovienses Compilati. I should add that the "miracle" mentioned here by the Pertz refers to the entry for a. 1239 in the Annales Polonorum I, which reports that Bolesław took Kinga as "a good and holy wife" when she was but 5 years old: and then, as yet unable to speak, she miraculously uttered her first words Ave regina!, or "hail, queen!" (Compare this to the Annales Polonorum II, where Kinga is said to be wed to Bolesław in the year 1274 [when she would have been 40], with no attendant miracle.) I should also add that, in another editorial note to the year 1239 of the Annales capituli Cracoviensis, Pertz explains that, despite conflicting records, there can be no doubt that it was in the year 1239 that Bolesław took Kinga as his wife (he cites the diploma of one Grymislava, which confirms that the "marriage" took place in 1239). If Pertz is indeed correct, then I would suggest that the Wiki article for Kinga, which currently reads "She reluctantly married Bolesław V", needs to be revised, as I do not think it makes sense to talk about 5-year-olds reluctantly marrying anyone ("forcibly" would be a more appropriate adverb, no?). Eltheodigraeardgesece ( talk) 20:58, 17 February 2015 (UTC)(Continuing with the content of the editorial note:) See volume 1 of Geschichte Polens (?), p. 497, and also volume 1, p. 663 of the Historia Polonica of John Dlu'Gloss, where, because of a typographical error, the year "1204" is printed in place of the year "1234". You will find a miracle (described by the author in that same book [sc. Historica Polonica]), in the entry for a. 1239 of the Annales Polonorum I. The Life of Kinga (or Cunegunda) that was written by Dlu'Gloss was published by the Bollandists on the 24th of July.
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