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Victuallers 11:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
why did he do it?? how the heck did he get the gun. aamerica is to free with its guns. no fire arms except a four shot pistol should be alowed. the pistol can be any type, but it must have only four rounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.220.102.253 ( talk) 22:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
How does that help? So they can only kill four people before reloading? how does that help at ALL? TimonofAthens ( talk) 19:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I have a problem with the title of this article being "Murder of Kayla Rolland." The child who killed Kayla was only 6 and it was determined he couldn't have formed the intent to kill her. Murder is defined as the unlawful taking of life with malice aforethought, so as such I don't think this should be classified as a "murder." Perhaps "Death of Kayla Rolland"? Thoughts? Robert Beck ( talk) 00:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
"The shooting of Kayla Rolland occurred at Buell Elementary School in Mount Morris Township, Michigan, United States on February 29, 2000. Six-year-old Dedric Darnell Owens fatally shot classmate Kayla Renee Rolland (May 12, 1993 – February 29, 2000) in a stairwell before he was taken into police custody. Buell Elementary School closed in 2002."
Now is it just me, or is listed the death date of Kayle in the parenthesis sorta redundant? I mean, you stated the date of the shooting in the first sentence and you explain that the shooting was fatal is in the second sentence, doesn't that make listing the death date in the parenthesis redundant and unneeded? CRRays Head90 | #OneMoreGame 17:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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@ NabuThoth: You have removed the name of the shooter from the begging of the article [1]. But, the rest of the article mentions him as "Owens" 17 more times. This way, it's very odd. He is "unnamed" in the first sentence, but is then named "Owens" in the rest of the article. Can you fix it? Vanjagenije (talk) 14:59, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
I think WP:BLPNAME name applies. The boy wasn't named in sources at the time of the shooting, and was not named in the article published on the 20th anniversary of the event which discussed some of his subsequent life. Reliable sources avoid mentions his name. Unreliable sources have picked up spelling that apparently originated on Wikipedia. Wikipedia should not have publicized his name in the first place. Plantdrew ( talk) 02:29, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
He is not the youngest school shooter in general since on August 22, 2013, a 5-year-old student fired a gun at Westside Elementary School, but he is the youngest fatal shooter so i think that the article should mentioned him as the youngest fatal school shooter and not just the youngest school shooter-- Cadeken ( talk) 02:32, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
The redirect Dedrick owens has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 8 § Dedrick owens until a consensus is reached. Plantdrew ( talk) 21:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
It is already common knowledge among those familiar with this case that the perpetrators name is Dedrick Owens. There is no point in trying to hide it and refer to him as “The assailant” or something like that, just use his real name, thanks. Genberg47 ( talk) 20:11, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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Victuallers 11:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
why did he do it?? how the heck did he get the gun. aamerica is to free with its guns. no fire arms except a four shot pistol should be alowed. the pistol can be any type, but it must have only four rounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.220.102.253 ( talk) 22:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
How does that help? So they can only kill four people before reloading? how does that help at ALL? TimonofAthens ( talk) 19:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I have a problem with the title of this article being "Murder of Kayla Rolland." The child who killed Kayla was only 6 and it was determined he couldn't have formed the intent to kill her. Murder is defined as the unlawful taking of life with malice aforethought, so as such I don't think this should be classified as a "murder." Perhaps "Death of Kayla Rolland"? Thoughts? Robert Beck ( talk) 00:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
"The shooting of Kayla Rolland occurred at Buell Elementary School in Mount Morris Township, Michigan, United States on February 29, 2000. Six-year-old Dedric Darnell Owens fatally shot classmate Kayla Renee Rolland (May 12, 1993 – February 29, 2000) in a stairwell before he was taken into police custody. Buell Elementary School closed in 2002."
Now is it just me, or is listed the death date of Kayle in the parenthesis sorta redundant? I mean, you stated the date of the shooting in the first sentence and you explain that the shooting was fatal is in the second sentence, doesn't that make listing the death date in the parenthesis redundant and unneeded? CRRays Head90 | #OneMoreGame 17:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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@ NabuThoth: You have removed the name of the shooter from the begging of the article [1]. But, the rest of the article mentions him as "Owens" 17 more times. This way, it's very odd. He is "unnamed" in the first sentence, but is then named "Owens" in the rest of the article. Can you fix it? Vanjagenije (talk) 14:59, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
I think WP:BLPNAME name applies. The boy wasn't named in sources at the time of the shooting, and was not named in the article published on the 20th anniversary of the event which discussed some of his subsequent life. Reliable sources avoid mentions his name. Unreliable sources have picked up spelling that apparently originated on Wikipedia. Wikipedia should not have publicized his name in the first place. Plantdrew ( talk) 02:29, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
He is not the youngest school shooter in general since on August 22, 2013, a 5-year-old student fired a gun at Westside Elementary School, but he is the youngest fatal shooter so i think that the article should mentioned him as the youngest fatal school shooter and not just the youngest school shooter-- Cadeken ( talk) 02:32, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
The redirect Dedrick owens has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 8 § Dedrick owens until a consensus is reached. Plantdrew ( talk) 21:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
It is already common knowledge among those familiar with this case that the perpetrators name is Dedrick Owens. There is no point in trying to hide it and refer to him as “The assailant” or something like that, just use his real name, thanks. Genberg47 ( talk) 20:11, 19 February 2024 (UTC)