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Change: "Penny should have known when Neely became unconscious and released him"
to: "some believe the hold was justified while others do not" 50.206.31.50 ( talk) 16:37, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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there has been no conviction on this. The United States still holds an innocent until proven guilty legal system. Throughout the entire article it is described as a homicide perpetrated by Daniel penny which has yet to be proven in a court of law.
It seems for accuracy sake this article should refer to this as an alleged homicide and list Daniel penny as the alleged perpetrator. 2601:646:4201:6370:C4A1:5BF:32B:5369 ( talk) 02:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
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Please add the following relevant information to the biography of the deceased. From Newsweek "A New York City police spokesperson told Newsweek that Neely's record has 42 prior arrests, dating between 2013 and 2021. They include four for alleged assault, while others involved accusations of transit fraud and criminal trespass. At the time of his death, Neely had one active warrant for an alleged assault in connection with a 2021 incident." Link to source- https://www.newsweek.com/jordan-neely-arrest-record-outrage-grows-subway-death-1798248. Please note that Wikipedia is supposed to be a neutral political source and as the fact of his criminality would be relevant to assessing the likely impact on his behaviour (more criminal behaviour) it should be included in this post. In simple English, the man wasn't a saint, so please stop trying to pretend he was and give people the full information so they can make up their own minds. 86.42.34.204 ( talk) 11:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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Change: "Penny should have known when Neely became unconscious and released him"
to: "some believe the hold was justified while others do not" 50.206.31.50 ( talk) 16:37, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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there has been no conviction on this. The United States still holds an innocent until proven guilty legal system. Throughout the entire article it is described as a homicide perpetrated by Daniel penny which has yet to be proven in a court of law.
It seems for accuracy sake this article should refer to this as an alleged homicide and list Daniel penny as the alleged perpetrator. 2601:646:4201:6370:C4A1:5BF:32B:5369 ( talk) 02:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
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Please add the following relevant information to the biography of the deceased. From Newsweek "A New York City police spokesperson told Newsweek that Neely's record has 42 prior arrests, dating between 2013 and 2021. They include four for alleged assault, while others involved accusations of transit fraud and criminal trespass. At the time of his death, Neely had one active warrant for an alleged assault in connection with a 2021 incident." Link to source- https://www.newsweek.com/jordan-neely-arrest-record-outrage-grows-subway-death-1798248. Please note that Wikipedia is supposed to be a neutral political source and as the fact of his criminality would be relevant to assessing the likely impact on his behaviour (more criminal behaviour) it should be included in this post. In simple English, the man wasn't a saint, so please stop trying to pretend he was and give people the full information so they can make up their own minds. 86.42.34.204 ( talk) 11:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a
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