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I've re-added the maintenance templates originally added
here by
Reddogsix, but subsequently removed
here by
23.242.78.120 because I don't believe the issues have been sufficiently addressed. While it is true that more sources have been added by 23.242.78.120, it's not necessary the quantity of sources, but rather the respective quality of the sources which matter when it comes to establishing
Wikipedia notability. Interviews, podcasts, etc. may be acceptable to some degree for verifying certain article content as explained in
WP:BLPSELFPUB, but they are
primary sources and primary sources are not helpful at all in establishing Wikipedia notability per
WP:BASIC. What is needed are examples of
significant coverage in
reliable sources which are
independent of the subject matter. Listings like
this,
this and
this as well as promotional pieces like
this and
this are not really helpful at all when it comes to Wikipedia notability. What is needed are more sources like
this, perhaps a little more national in scope, to show that VandenHeuvel at least meets
WP:NACTOR. --
Marchjuly (
talk) 05:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)reply
This is the
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Kiff VandenHeuvel article. This is
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I've re-added the maintenance templates originally added
here by
Reddogsix, but subsequently removed
here by
23.242.78.120 because I don't believe the issues have been sufficiently addressed. While it is true that more sources have been added by 23.242.78.120, it's not necessary the quantity of sources, but rather the respective quality of the sources which matter when it comes to establishing
Wikipedia notability. Interviews, podcasts, etc. may be acceptable to some degree for verifying certain article content as explained in
WP:BLPSELFPUB, but they are
primary sources and primary sources are not helpful at all in establishing Wikipedia notability per
WP:BASIC. What is needed are examples of
significant coverage in
reliable sources which are
independent of the subject matter. Listings like
this,
this and
this as well as promotional pieces like
this and
this are not really helpful at all when it comes to Wikipedia notability. What is needed are more sources like
this, perhaps a little more national in scope, to show that VandenHeuvel at least meets
WP:NACTOR. --
Marchjuly (
talk) 05:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)reply