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Three of the four references in the section about kichdi as India's national food state unambiguously that there was never any intention or plan to promote kichdi as the national food of India.
The whole section, however, perpetuates this short-lived rumor as a statement of fact. The rumor originated from a Business Insider article (ref 22), which allows nearly anyone to contribute regardless of credentials or reputability. 3/4 references in the section directly contradict the statements they are being used to support. The section needs to be rewritten to reflect that it was a rumor, or removed as this kind of media misunderstanding is not really notable.
This section is fairly haphazard - going from Bengal to Pakistan and North India to Bihar to Odisha back to Bihar then to Bengal again and finishing up with Pakistan. I am going to be Bold and reorder this section according to regions. I will not be removing or adding any information..yet. Manosijbasu ( talk) 16:29, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
How about a pronunciation guide since the world has a non English origin? (chee ch- dee?) I have no idea.
Khitchdee, Kh as in Khartoum, itch as in itch and dee as in deep. The main article also talks about how the d is pronounced different than the English d. How do we change the title of this article to Khitchdee instead of Khichdi? The Khichdi spelling comes from the serial and has ambiguous pronounciation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.145.206 ( talk) 06:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
It is pronounced as khy-chha-dee. Also, it actually just means a mixture. It definitely does not have to include rice or lentils. For example, in Maharashtra a kichadi made from Tapioca is pretty popular. Also, I have never ever had Kichadi with Kadhi, so that could be particular to a specific region. -- data64 03:02, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Well then let's get some clarification in this. Preferably from some Indians who know the dish and related cuisine well. It sounds like maybe it's not one specific dish.
Also, can we get a better picture/s? The one posted is out of focus when you try to zoom in. There's a better picture at http://mirjamletsch.com/?tag=khitchdee. This one looks quite authentic, more like it's served. I guess we could link to it (someone know how?).
-- 68.183.146.141 ( talk) 17:25, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Atmoz ( talk) 13:20, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Khichdi →
Khitchdee — Khichdi, the original English name for this Hindi word comes from the similarly named TV serial. This serial was not named with phonetic considerations in mind. When creating new English names for Hindi words, we opine that the spelling should as unambiguously as possible lead the English reader to its correct pronounciation in Hindi. The Khitchdee spelling has been designed with this in mind. The tch instead of the ch disambiguates it from the ch of chorus or technology and the dee disambiguates it from the di of dinner and dining.
117.199.147.124 (
talk)
08:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Let's wait for more inputs on this discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.144.209 ( talk) 01:03, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Afterthought: look at Hindi pronunciation: [ˈkʰɪtʃɽiː]. All the spellings of Khitchdee begin with Khi. For the tch (for which some use ch and some tch), the IPA refers to the tch of catch. For the dee, IPA refers to the ee of feet. Since IPA is anyways referring to these word segments, and its a new word, why not spell the word with those word segments -- Khi|tch|dee. A google search on Khitchdee shows you this spelling has been in use since 2003, long before the serial started.
If someone starts a TV serial named Khitchdee, the hit count will go up. Then, would you support it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.151.3 ( talk) 07:58, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Close up: This is a long standing Hindi common noun. We are not translating it into English. We are only representing in English. The sound is the only thing left to present. Wikipedia being user contributed, presents an opportunity to correct. The first representation is not the best. "Khitchdee" is clearly the best spell for this word. (TV serial producers are not linguists) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.152.164 ( talk) 11:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
"baigan ka bharta" is not explained. AFAIK baigan is eggplant but the text needs to say so. Bharta is "fills up". Baigan ka bharta therefore translates to someone who fills up with Eggplant. 108.45.122.74 ( talk) 16:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
editing the information that have been provided that Egyptian dish have been inspired by this dish and saying that it has not inspired have no evidence and proofs please bring your proofs that egyptian dish have not inspired by the indian( Ahmedhamdy007 ( talk) 03:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC))
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Khichdi be
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Khichri .
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Khichdi → Khichri – Canonical Hunterian transliteration per MOS:INDIA. Getsnoopy ( talk) 08:21, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
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Change "Khichuri" on top of the infobox to "Khichdi" which is the article title and standard spelling. 110.225.43.208 ( talk) 05:42, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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Three of the four references in the section about kichdi as India's national food state unambiguously that there was never any intention or plan to promote kichdi as the national food of India.
The whole section, however, perpetuates this short-lived rumor as a statement of fact. The rumor originated from a Business Insider article (ref 22), which allows nearly anyone to contribute regardless of credentials or reputability. 3/4 references in the section directly contradict the statements they are being used to support. The section needs to be rewritten to reflect that it was a rumor, or removed as this kind of media misunderstanding is not really notable.
This section is fairly haphazard - going from Bengal to Pakistan and North India to Bihar to Odisha back to Bihar then to Bengal again and finishing up with Pakistan. I am going to be Bold and reorder this section according to regions. I will not be removing or adding any information..yet. Manosijbasu ( talk) 16:29, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
How about a pronunciation guide since the world has a non English origin? (chee ch- dee?) I have no idea.
Khitchdee, Kh as in Khartoum, itch as in itch and dee as in deep. The main article also talks about how the d is pronounced different than the English d. How do we change the title of this article to Khitchdee instead of Khichdi? The Khichdi spelling comes from the serial and has ambiguous pronounciation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.145.206 ( talk) 06:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
It is pronounced as khy-chha-dee. Also, it actually just means a mixture. It definitely does not have to include rice or lentils. For example, in Maharashtra a kichadi made from Tapioca is pretty popular. Also, I have never ever had Kichadi with Kadhi, so that could be particular to a specific region. -- data64 03:02, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Well then let's get some clarification in this. Preferably from some Indians who know the dish and related cuisine well. It sounds like maybe it's not one specific dish.
Also, can we get a better picture/s? The one posted is out of focus when you try to zoom in. There's a better picture at http://mirjamletsch.com/?tag=khitchdee. This one looks quite authentic, more like it's served. I guess we could link to it (someone know how?).
-- 68.183.146.141 ( talk) 17:25, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Atmoz ( talk) 13:20, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Khichdi →
Khitchdee — Khichdi, the original English name for this Hindi word comes from the similarly named TV serial. This serial was not named with phonetic considerations in mind. When creating new English names for Hindi words, we opine that the spelling should as unambiguously as possible lead the English reader to its correct pronounciation in Hindi. The Khitchdee spelling has been designed with this in mind. The tch instead of the ch disambiguates it from the ch of chorus or technology and the dee disambiguates it from the di of dinner and dining.
117.199.147.124 (
talk)
08:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Let's wait for more inputs on this discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.144.209 ( talk) 01:03, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Afterthought: look at Hindi pronunciation: [ˈkʰɪtʃɽiː]. All the spellings of Khitchdee begin with Khi. For the tch (for which some use ch and some tch), the IPA refers to the tch of catch. For the dee, IPA refers to the ee of feet. Since IPA is anyways referring to these word segments, and its a new word, why not spell the word with those word segments -- Khi|tch|dee. A google search on Khitchdee shows you this spelling has been in use since 2003, long before the serial started.
If someone starts a TV serial named Khitchdee, the hit count will go up. Then, would you support it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.151.3 ( talk) 07:58, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Close up: This is a long standing Hindi common noun. We are not translating it into English. We are only representing in English. The sound is the only thing left to present. Wikipedia being user contributed, presents an opportunity to correct. The first representation is not the best. "Khitchdee" is clearly the best spell for this word. (TV serial producers are not linguists) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.152.164 ( talk) 11:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
"baigan ka bharta" is not explained. AFAIK baigan is eggplant but the text needs to say so. Bharta is "fills up". Baigan ka bharta therefore translates to someone who fills up with Eggplant. 108.45.122.74 ( talk) 16:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
editing the information that have been provided that Egyptian dish have been inspired by this dish and saying that it has not inspired have no evidence and proofs please bring your proofs that egyptian dish have not inspired by the indian( Ahmedhamdy007 ( talk) 03:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC))
It was proposed in this section that
Khichdi be
renamed and moved to
Khichri .
result: Links:
current log •
target log
This is template {{
subst:Requested move/end}} |
Khichdi → Khichri – Canonical Hunterian transliteration per MOS:INDIA. Getsnoopy ( talk) 08:21, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change "Khichuri" on top of the infobox to "Khichdi" which is the article title and standard spelling. 110.225.43.208 ( talk) 05:42, 22 February 2024 (UTC)