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The assertions formerly "supported" with the source "Myths the Kerner Commission Created" (available via Ebscohost) are seriously misleading for a at least two reasons. [For reference, here is the offending paragraph (with some edits I made before I decided it needed to be shelved entirely, for the moment): " Abraham H. Miller, who won a Pi Sigma Alpha Award from the Western Political Science Association for his statistical refutation of some of the Commission's data analysis failed verification, stated, "There is considerable reason for rejecting the sociological and popular cliché that absolute or relative deprivation and the ensuing frustration or despair is the root cause of rebellion." [1]]
Firstly and most importantly, the purported quotation does not come from Miller; it is a quotation attributed to someone else. Here is the relevant line in context:
"It was McPhail, however, who showed that neither relative nor absolute deprivation or any other characteristics of the black situation could explain the riots. Pundits, media analysts, and the voices of various interest groups all knew what caused the riots, but clearly the most rigorous social science research confirmed none of this. McPhail's statement about the riots--"There is considerable reason for rejecting the sociological and popular cliche that absolute or relative deprivation and the ensuing frustration or despair is the root cause of rebellion"--should have been their defining statement. But it isn't, for no one can claim access to the federal trough on that basis. Poverty and despair are the claimants' most vital keys to securing such access. Kimble could not dare to call for an infusion of 30 billion a year into the inner cities without the conviction that poverty and despair were the foundations for future riots."
Secondly, there is nothing in the article to support the claim that Miller "won a Pi Sigma Alpha Award from the Western Political Science Association for his statistical refutation of some of the Commission's data analysis." The sole mention of this occurs in the biographical byline that follows the body of the article, viz.: "His early work on the black urban riots won a Pi Sigma Alpha Award for research from the Western Political Science Association." Nothing in that statement allows one to conclude that this vaguely-defined 'work' was a "statistical refutation of some of the Commission's data analysis." (I have contacted the organization with a query on this front since their website only has information on award winners dating back to 2003.
As of now the paragraph is totally unsatisfactory. And a note: a fuller/better citation is needed if this ends up remaining in the article. I can't think off hand what would have to change using Chicago or something, but with MLA: "Miller, Abraham H. "Myths the Kerner Commission." World and I 15.8 (2000): 300. [Access date]." Tothebarricades ( talk) 20:14, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
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I've made two changes to the article. First, I've removed the "neoconservative" label from professor Stephan Thernstrom...
This was done for a couple of reasons:
1. I couldn't find any citations that he was in fact a "neoconservative." His work, as far as I'm aware, doesn't even focus on foreign policy, and "neoconservative" is generally defined as a conservative who supports a more interventionist foreign policy.
2. Even if he is a neocon, his views on foreign policy aren't really relevant to his critique of the commission's report, and the label seems to be more of a smear or attempt to discredit what he said rather than something to inform the readers of this article.
There Lerner commission investigations also included findings of violence by police on several of the cities where uprising occurred. It cut be meaningful to include that context on the summary Iggynelix ( talk) 17:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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The assertions formerly "supported" with the source "Myths the Kerner Commission Created" (available via Ebscohost) are seriously misleading for a at least two reasons. [For reference, here is the offending paragraph (with some edits I made before I decided it needed to be shelved entirely, for the moment): " Abraham H. Miller, who won a Pi Sigma Alpha Award from the Western Political Science Association for his statistical refutation of some of the Commission's data analysis failed verification, stated, "There is considerable reason for rejecting the sociological and popular cliché that absolute or relative deprivation and the ensuing frustration or despair is the root cause of rebellion." [1]]
Firstly and most importantly, the purported quotation does not come from Miller; it is a quotation attributed to someone else. Here is the relevant line in context:
"It was McPhail, however, who showed that neither relative nor absolute deprivation or any other characteristics of the black situation could explain the riots. Pundits, media analysts, and the voices of various interest groups all knew what caused the riots, but clearly the most rigorous social science research confirmed none of this. McPhail's statement about the riots--"There is considerable reason for rejecting the sociological and popular cliche that absolute or relative deprivation and the ensuing frustration or despair is the root cause of rebellion"--should have been their defining statement. But it isn't, for no one can claim access to the federal trough on that basis. Poverty and despair are the claimants' most vital keys to securing such access. Kimble could not dare to call for an infusion of 30 billion a year into the inner cities without the conviction that poverty and despair were the foundations for future riots."
Secondly, there is nothing in the article to support the claim that Miller "won a Pi Sigma Alpha Award from the Western Political Science Association for his statistical refutation of some of the Commission's data analysis." The sole mention of this occurs in the biographical byline that follows the body of the article, viz.: "His early work on the black urban riots won a Pi Sigma Alpha Award for research from the Western Political Science Association." Nothing in that statement allows one to conclude that this vaguely-defined 'work' was a "statistical refutation of some of the Commission's data analysis." (I have contacted the organization with a query on this front since their website only has information on award winners dating back to 2003.
As of now the paragraph is totally unsatisfactory. And a note: a fuller/better citation is needed if this ends up remaining in the article. I can't think off hand what would have to change using Chicago or something, but with MLA: "Miller, Abraham H. "Myths the Kerner Commission." World and I 15.8 (2000): 300. [Access date]." Tothebarricades ( talk) 20:14, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
References
I've made two changes to the article. First, I've removed the "neoconservative" label from professor Stephan Thernstrom...
This was done for a couple of reasons:
1. I couldn't find any citations that he was in fact a "neoconservative." His work, as far as I'm aware, doesn't even focus on foreign policy, and "neoconservative" is generally defined as a conservative who supports a more interventionist foreign policy.
2. Even if he is a neocon, his views on foreign policy aren't really relevant to his critique of the commission's report, and the label seems to be more of a smear or attempt to discredit what he said rather than something to inform the readers of this article.
There Lerner commission investigations also included findings of violence by police on several of the cities where uprising occurred. It cut be meaningful to include that context on the summary Iggynelix ( talk) 17:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)