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Being run on overseas news website - [1]. There's no bridge there, at least according to what I can see in Google Maps. Thewinchester (talk) 06:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Bramley 11:05, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I didn't reference the claim that the train had 3 carriages and 1 loco, but should I put a reference next to something I am deleting (as it is wrong and conflicting). Consider this quote from the Age article (more up-to-date than the Sky article)
"The V/Line train, consisting of a locomotive and three carriages, had left Swan Hill..."
This conflicts with the earlier Sky report, hence I want to delete it. Bramley 11:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I've boarded the Swan Hill to Bendigo often on Tuesday's at 1pm, this beign the first time in a month I hadn't, and I can assure you that there is First Class, B Carriage and C Carriage, and an engine. Shazza|
Have done what I can with it - with 12 hours of hindsight it was possible to improve it as things became clearer. Orderinchaos 20:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
This looks in desperate need of some pictures. Anyone know where to get some? - Viva43 00:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately twelve people are reported to have died as a result of this tragedy. I've updated the box, but not the main text.
See: <url> http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21869502-5013099,00.html</url>
It is another ponderance altogether whether there were 11 or 12 deaths. Even today's Herald Sun (12 June 2007) says eleven deaths. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21889480-2862,00.html
So either Friday's Herald Sun article stating 12 deaths is wrong, or today's article stating 11 is wrong. I haven't found a reference, such as a list of names. -- 203.10.224.60 06:32, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
"A southbound V/Line passenger train and a northbound B-Double road train collided at a level crossing.." Alright so 2 trains collided, then why is a semi-trailer driver being charged and was injured? Where did the semi-trailer fit into the accident? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.49.155.106 ( talk • contribs).
A road train is another word for a semi-trailer :: maelgwn :: talk 11:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Can this page be renamed as above, since the current name implies that no road vehicles were involved at all?
Tabletop ( talk) 02:17, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
There are boom gates according to this link: http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=level+crossing+at+Kerang&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=-35.701638,143.879871&spn=0,359.845505&z=13&iwloc=C&layer=c&cbll=-35.701348,143.879743&panoid=bnyUaT0vlsgPppUPj2YNUA&cbp=12,174.49,,0,8.4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.217.76.241 ( talk) 04:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Has speed limit on road been changed since the accident and what was it and what is it now. Tabletop ( talk) 11:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
The road was closed for two hours while the Jury made a site visit. [1] Tabletop ( talk) 11:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
The Jury visited the site on more or less the same time and day as the accident, so they would get (IHO) the same impression of the glare problem, weather permitting.
The Jury has to be informed that booms, cutting down of trees, and other things have been changed since the accident.
Defence blames "wicked deficiencies" at crossing, which will be revealed later?
References
Different witness give different distances that red xing lights are visible for. [1]
Defence attorney Forrest: 100m.
Other witnesses: 150m - 200m.
Remember that northbound road has 15 degree bend in it about 150m from the xing.
What is braking distance for truck at different speeds?
By comparison, here are some normal traffic lights on Milperra Road, Milperra, a straight suburban road with an 80km/h speed limit.
Tabletop ( talk) 02:03, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
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Being run on overseas news website - [1]. There's no bridge there, at least according to what I can see in Google Maps. Thewinchester (talk) 06:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Bramley 11:05, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I didn't reference the claim that the train had 3 carriages and 1 loco, but should I put a reference next to something I am deleting (as it is wrong and conflicting). Consider this quote from the Age article (more up-to-date than the Sky article)
"The V/Line train, consisting of a locomotive and three carriages, had left Swan Hill..."
This conflicts with the earlier Sky report, hence I want to delete it. Bramley 11:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I've boarded the Swan Hill to Bendigo often on Tuesday's at 1pm, this beign the first time in a month I hadn't, and I can assure you that there is First Class, B Carriage and C Carriage, and an engine. Shazza|
Have done what I can with it - with 12 hours of hindsight it was possible to improve it as things became clearer. Orderinchaos 20:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
This looks in desperate need of some pictures. Anyone know where to get some? - Viva43 00:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately twelve people are reported to have died as a result of this tragedy. I've updated the box, but not the main text.
See: <url> http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21869502-5013099,00.html</url>
It is another ponderance altogether whether there were 11 or 12 deaths. Even today's Herald Sun (12 June 2007) says eleven deaths. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21889480-2862,00.html
So either Friday's Herald Sun article stating 12 deaths is wrong, or today's article stating 11 is wrong. I haven't found a reference, such as a list of names. -- 203.10.224.60 06:32, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
"A southbound V/Line passenger train and a northbound B-Double road train collided at a level crossing.." Alright so 2 trains collided, then why is a semi-trailer driver being charged and was injured? Where did the semi-trailer fit into the accident? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.49.155.106 ( talk • contribs).
A road train is another word for a semi-trailer :: maelgwn :: talk 11:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Can this page be renamed as above, since the current name implies that no road vehicles were involved at all?
Tabletop ( talk) 02:17, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
There are boom gates according to this link: http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=level+crossing+at+Kerang&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=-35.701638,143.879871&spn=0,359.845505&z=13&iwloc=C&layer=c&cbll=-35.701348,143.879743&panoid=bnyUaT0vlsgPppUPj2YNUA&cbp=12,174.49,,0,8.4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.217.76.241 ( talk) 04:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Has speed limit on road been changed since the accident and what was it and what is it now. Tabletop ( talk) 11:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
The road was closed for two hours while the Jury made a site visit. [1] Tabletop ( talk) 11:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
The Jury visited the site on more or less the same time and day as the accident, so they would get (IHO) the same impression of the glare problem, weather permitting.
The Jury has to be informed that booms, cutting down of trees, and other things have been changed since the accident.
Defence blames "wicked deficiencies" at crossing, which will be revealed later?
References
Different witness give different distances that red xing lights are visible for. [1]
Defence attorney Forrest: 100m.
Other witnesses: 150m - 200m.
Remember that northbound road has 15 degree bend in it about 150m from the xing.
What is braking distance for truck at different speeds?
By comparison, here are some normal traffic lights on Milperra Road, Milperra, a straight suburban road with an 80km/h speed limit.
Tabletop ( talk) 02:03, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
References
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