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Would someone please wikify the last section about the FBI investigation?
This article is incredibly pro-gay biased. By calling the issue "gay rights" you are insinuating it's a right, a more neutral term should be used such as "gay civil issues". The quotes that were picked out were also very selective to deliberately make him look bad...wikipedia should have higher standards than this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.219.162.45 ( talk) 02:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Clearly this "biography" of Ken Hutcherson is biased. As head pastor of a large church, Ken has certainly done more in his life than speak out against homosexuals. Any quotes from the biased "source" The Stranger should be deleted. And as though a very important, leading individual of the gay community, The Gay Curmudgeon, can write or edit something without a slant. Of course ultimately, the fact that anyone can write and edit Wikipedia articles makes it so it will never be a legitimate source, period. Icemaidn68 ( talk) 05:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Charles, no one cares. The guy is more well known for his anti-gay activities than for his football career. Try and spin that any way you want, its not going to work. He's a bigot. And just so you know, calling someone who says or does bigoted things 'a bigot' isn’t censorious, it’s descriptively accurate, like calling a bad movie 'a bad movie', even if the bigot didn’t intend to come off as bigoted and the movie didn’t intend to come off as bad." He probably shit his pants when Washington voted yes on gay marriage two weeks ago. -- 76.105.145.143 ( talk) 01:31, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
I've added a number of quotes from various sources, the vast majority of them are from either major television or print news sources and are cited appropriately. However there are a few sources that I'm not sure are acceptable for some of the quotes. For example, there is a source that is a blog that monitors talk radio. The only reason that I included them is that I was at the event and had the same quotes in my notes. However, based on the reliable sources and no original research dictums I'm concerned that they need to be removed.
I'd appreciate advice from more experienced hands on this. GayCurmudgeon 22:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
I've added a new section on Shareholder Advocacy to capture the latest developments, and fixed 3 or 4 missing citations that had been flagged in the rest of the article. Is there a specific way to cite a recording or a reference to an MP3 file when there is no trusted transcript or other text source? GayCurmudgeon ( talk) 23:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
This section opened with "As an African American...". I changed this because it assumes that all African-Americans are opposed to equal rights (such as marriage) for gays and lesbians -- which isn't true. Hutcherson plays his African-Americanism as an angle in opposing civil rights, but blacks are not inherently opposed to civil rights for gays. I speak from experience because I am black. Mirror Ball
Just making a note for other editors or myself when I have the time: Conservative pastor urges buying Microsoft stock to fight its gay rights efforts - http://seattlepi.com/business/346431_antiochmsft08.html Note how this negates his previous quests to boycott Microsoft and get everyone to sell their shares, thus devaluing the stock. TechBear ( talk) 17:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
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I don't see how this new section is relevant to the article, as the text focuses primarily on Limbaugh and not Hutcherson. I don't want to delete it, though, until there is some feedback. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 21:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I think this article gives undue weight to his anti-same-sex marriage stance. He is primarily known for his football and his clergical work. Added tag.-- Mr. Guye ( talk) 15:18, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
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Would someone please wikify the last section about the FBI investigation?
This article is incredibly pro-gay biased. By calling the issue "gay rights" you are insinuating it's a right, a more neutral term should be used such as "gay civil issues". The quotes that were picked out were also very selective to deliberately make him look bad...wikipedia should have higher standards than this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.219.162.45 ( talk) 02:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Clearly this "biography" of Ken Hutcherson is biased. As head pastor of a large church, Ken has certainly done more in his life than speak out against homosexuals. Any quotes from the biased "source" The Stranger should be deleted. And as though a very important, leading individual of the gay community, The Gay Curmudgeon, can write or edit something without a slant. Of course ultimately, the fact that anyone can write and edit Wikipedia articles makes it so it will never be a legitimate source, period. Icemaidn68 ( talk) 05:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Charles, no one cares. The guy is more well known for his anti-gay activities than for his football career. Try and spin that any way you want, its not going to work. He's a bigot. And just so you know, calling someone who says or does bigoted things 'a bigot' isn’t censorious, it’s descriptively accurate, like calling a bad movie 'a bad movie', even if the bigot didn’t intend to come off as bigoted and the movie didn’t intend to come off as bad." He probably shit his pants when Washington voted yes on gay marriage two weeks ago. -- 76.105.145.143 ( talk) 01:31, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
I've added a number of quotes from various sources, the vast majority of them are from either major television or print news sources and are cited appropriately. However there are a few sources that I'm not sure are acceptable for some of the quotes. For example, there is a source that is a blog that monitors talk radio. The only reason that I included them is that I was at the event and had the same quotes in my notes. However, based on the reliable sources and no original research dictums I'm concerned that they need to be removed.
I'd appreciate advice from more experienced hands on this. GayCurmudgeon 22:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
I've added a new section on Shareholder Advocacy to capture the latest developments, and fixed 3 or 4 missing citations that had been flagged in the rest of the article. Is there a specific way to cite a recording or a reference to an MP3 file when there is no trusted transcript or other text source? GayCurmudgeon ( talk) 23:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
This section opened with "As an African American...". I changed this because it assumes that all African-Americans are opposed to equal rights (such as marriage) for gays and lesbians -- which isn't true. Hutcherson plays his African-Americanism as an angle in opposing civil rights, but blacks are not inherently opposed to civil rights for gays. I speak from experience because I am black. Mirror Ball
Just making a note for other editors or myself when I have the time: Conservative pastor urges buying Microsoft stock to fight its gay rights efforts - http://seattlepi.com/business/346431_antiochmsft08.html Note how this negates his previous quests to boycott Microsoft and get everyone to sell their shares, thus devaluing the stock. TechBear ( talk) 17:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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I don't see how this new section is relevant to the article, as the text focuses primarily on Limbaugh and not Hutcherson. I don't want to delete it, though, until there is some feedback. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 21:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I think this article gives undue weight to his anti-same-sex marriage stance. He is primarily known for his football and his clergical work. Added tag.-- Mr. Guye ( talk) 15:18, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
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