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Do we really need a section which lists EVERY, mostly non notable, film than has ever received the award? Surely we can just visit their website for this list cruft?
Theroadislong (
talk) 19:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)reply
We need either a list of every film that has ever won the award, or no list at all. Just as with any other article about any other film award, there's absolutely no basis for a partial list selected on subjective inclusion criteria — it's either all the films or no article at all, not anything in between. Also, just because the films don't all have articles yet doesn't mean they aren't notable: Wikipedia is a work in progress to which new articles are always being added, about both newly notable topics and older topics that have gotten overlooked, so a film's notability is not determined solely by whether its article already exists or not. And, in fact, winning a significant award at a significant film festival is one of the notability criteria for films in its own right, meaning that there's a very real case to be made that every film that can be properly sourced as belonging in this list is notable specifically because it can be properly sourced as belonging in this list.
Bearcat (
talk) 17:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Ok I see other award articles do the same and if you consider this a significant award, I'll go away.
Theroadislong (
talk) 18:13, 27 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Just to clarify, it may not seem like an important award from an international perspective — but Yorkton is a genuinely important film festival in Canada. It's a qualifying festival for the
Canadian Screen Awards, and is easily the most important film festival in the country when it comes to short films (or at least the anglo half of a two-headed beast with the
Saguenay International Short Film Festival en français). So its awards are most certainly as notable as TIFF's or VIFF's even if you've never heard of it, in exactly the same way as my failure to have heard of some American or Swiss film festivals before doesn't make them non-notable.
Bearcat (
talk) 15:13, 28 November 2020 (UTC)reply
This redirect is within the scope of WikiProject Canada, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Canada on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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awards and
prizes on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AwardsWikipedia:WikiProject AwardsTemplate:WikiProject Awardsawards articles
Winners section
Do we really need a section which lists EVERY, mostly non notable, film than has ever received the award? Surely we can just visit their website for this list cruft?
Theroadislong (
talk) 19:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)reply
We need either a list of every film that has ever won the award, or no list at all. Just as with any other article about any other film award, there's absolutely no basis for a partial list selected on subjective inclusion criteria — it's either all the films or no article at all, not anything in between. Also, just because the films don't all have articles yet doesn't mean they aren't notable: Wikipedia is a work in progress to which new articles are always being added, about both newly notable topics and older topics that have gotten overlooked, so a film's notability is not determined solely by whether its article already exists or not. And, in fact, winning a significant award at a significant film festival is one of the notability criteria for films in its own right, meaning that there's a very real case to be made that every film that can be properly sourced as belonging in this list is notable specifically because it can be properly sourced as belonging in this list.
Bearcat (
talk) 17:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Ok I see other award articles do the same and if you consider this a significant award, I'll go away.
Theroadislong (
talk) 18:13, 27 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Just to clarify, it may not seem like an important award from an international perspective — but Yorkton is a genuinely important film festival in Canada. It's a qualifying festival for the
Canadian Screen Awards, and is easily the most important film festival in the country when it comes to short films (or at least the anglo half of a two-headed beast with the
Saguenay International Short Film Festival en français). So its awards are most certainly as notable as TIFF's or VIFF's even if you've never heard of it, in exactly the same way as my failure to have heard of some American or Swiss film festivals before doesn't make them non-notable.
Bearcat (
talk) 15:13, 28 November 2020 (UTC)reply