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@ Kautilya3: I had removed passport free and made it visa free... and had put two sources for the same. You put back passport free? DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 20:25, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
per this source At Kartarpur Ceremony, Imran Khan Emphasises Cooperation, Says Army on 'Same Page
Atal Bihari Vajpayee, in 1999, had been the “first” to propose a visa-free corridor for pilgrims to travel from Dera Baba Nanak in India to Darbar Sahib in Pakistan during his visit to Lahore. The Pakistani government did not respond to this proposal, according to the MEA. The UPA government had also raised it in the last ten years at several levels.
I think this should be included in the article. Thoughts ? -- DBig Xrayᗙ 20:44, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
The proposal for the corridor has been on the table since 1988 — when Pakistan and India agreed in principle to construct a corridor from Dera Baba Nanak in India to Kartarpur Sahib in Pakistan — but tense relations between the two countries prevented progress on the plan.
The foreign minister recalled Quaid-i-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah's August 11, 1947 speech, quoting him as saying: "You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place or worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed that has nothing to do with the business of the State."
When I read this new info I am like, where did this angle come from!!! .... Considering all of this new information, the background and history part of this Wikipedia article needs a LOOOOT of work :D DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 13:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[...] the Sikh Diaspora has agreed to pay for the $17 million construction cost of the Kartarpur Peace Corridor [...]"
There is a lot of posturing by both sides. So we should be careful.
It seems fairly certain that the 1974 protocol on religious visits does not cover Kartarpur. The Indian MEA claims that it raised it several times. The Gurdwara was however "remained shut from 1947 to 2000", according to its caretaker. [1] Why did it get opened in 2000? Perhaps Vajpayee's prompting. But we can't be sure if it was Nawaz Sharif's initiative or Musharraf's. Remember the Kargil war intervening. So, it might have been some time after 2000 that it got opened. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 14:32, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
“Pakistan has several times offered to India that it will construct a road to Kartarpur,” says Singh. “The proposals were even approved and during the Musharraf era a tender was floated with 50 per cent of road construction being carried out. But India never responded.”
References
@
DiplomatTesterMan: you asked, where did this angle come from?
It came from the
Institute for Multi-Track Diplomacy, led by a former American diplomat, John W. McDonald. He also claims to have been the force behind the "People's bus" across the Kashmirs
video, part 1,
part 2. --
Kautilya3 (
talk)
20:43, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Not really arbitrary. This is the famous Gurdaspur award, the most contentious decision of all of Partition. Prem Shankar Jha notes:
The terms of reference of the Boundary Commission had stated that it would 'demarcate the boundaries of the two parts of the Punjab on the basis of ascertaining the contiguous majority areas of Muslims and non-Muslims. In doing so it will also take into account other factors.' When he saw this, Mountbatten sent a query to the Secretary of State for India, Lord Listowell, asking what 'other factors' might mean. Listowell, who had succeeded Pethick-Lawrence as Secretary of State for India, replied that these were entirely for the Punjab Boundary Commissioners to decide. However, he said, 'other factors must include the location of Sikh shrines'.[16] This looks very much like a directive to the Radcliffe Commission. Sir Cyril certainly paid heed to it, but not unduly at Pakistan's expense. [1]
He also states:
Radcliffe was giving Nankana Sahib in Sheikhupura district, the birthplace of Guru Nanak, and the second holiest shrine of the Sikhs, to Pakistan, as well as Lahore which contained Gurdwara Shahidganj, and four other important shrines related to Gurus Arjun Dev and Ram Das. He could hardly have cut Amritsar off too. If that was not to happen, Gurdaspur was the obvious choice, for it contained two other important shrines, Dera Baba Nanak and Sri Gobindpur. This, more than anything else, probably persuaded the Boundary Commission to decide from the outset that these tehsil must come to east Punjab.
Interestingly, there is no mention of Kartarpur here. Nankana Sahib is the second most important shrine for the Sikhs. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 15:14, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
References
I found a source connecting the 1974 protocol to Kartarpur.
Government’s view is that a faster and more efficient manner to ensure easy access to the sacred Shrine of Kartarpur Sahib for all Indian pilgrims is by seeking inclusion of the Kartarpur Sahib Shrine and further liberalization of the 1974 Protocol on visits to Religious Shrines. Government has raised the matter of expanding the list of Shrines included in the 1974 Protocol on visits to Religious Shrines including during meetings at the level of Foreign Ministers. There has been no response from Pakistan so far.
PIB, Government of India, MEA (30-July-2014 17:34 IST) - Land corridor to religious places in Pakistan [1]
So this is another aspect of the article that needs to be considered and added, as I mentioned above, and Kautilya first noted. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 15:31, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
References
The 1947 Gurdaspur district had four tehsils: Gurdaspur and Batala tehsils, which now form part of the Gurdaspur district, Pathankot tehsil, which is now the Pathankot district, and the Shakargarh tehsil, which is now part of the Narowal District. We should not link the 1947 Gurdaspur district to the present day Gurdaspur district. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 17:39, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Interesting tidbit of what the Indian press calls the "Sidhu card":
Sources told The Indian Express that Sidhu, who is also a minister in the Congress government in Punjab, was allocated a numbered seat towards the rear along with other guests, which he had occupied before he was approached by a protocol officer and escorted to a front-row seat. He was then seated next to Masood Khan, the president of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK), a person whose identity the Indian politician was not aware of until informed by an official of the Indian High Commission. [1]
Interesting dynamics! -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 19:46, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
References
Please compare these two paragraphs in the article -
1.
After partition, Indian Sikhs would go over informally, crossing a bridge on the Ravi river which joined Dera Baba Nanak with Kartarpur Sahib. But the bridge was destroyed in the Indo-Pakistan war of 1965 and once again in 1971 during the Bangladesh Liberation War. Until a border fence was set up in the area in 1986, Sikhs would go over the Indian Pakistan border illegally for the pilgrimage. [1]
2.
Gobind Singh, the caretaker of the gurdwara at Kartarpur, said the gurdwara had "remained shut from 1947 to 2000".[25] According to Akali leader Kuldeep Singh Wadala, the gurdwara had been abandoned till 2003. It served as a cattle shed for the villagers and its lands were taken over by share-croppers.[20] Since 2003, however, the Pakistani government has reportedly taken initiatives for the upkeep of Sikh religious shrines.
Both have reliable sources right?. But how could the the gurdwara be abandoned or remained shut for all these years.... if people went on over the border even before? DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 20:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
There is a full article written by Goraya, published in the "Journal of the Punjab University Historical Society". [2] It has this gem:
When Sir Cyril Radcliffe drew the boundary-line he happened to allot the whole of district Gurdaspur to Pakistan (see June 3, 1947 announcement). How could the universal point go to Pakistan alone? The miracles then began to happen. J.L.Nehru first Prime Minister of India exercised his influence over Mountbatten and the Partition Plan was revised. This time Gurdaspur was bisected.
So, Radcliffe supposedly drew a line 3 June 1947. But he didn't even arrive in India till 8 July. So there goes the reliability of Goraya as well as the Punjab University Historical Society. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:00, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
References
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Here is a quick summary of the partition of the 1947 Gurdaspur district. The population of the district was roughly 50-50 Muslim and non-Muslim. In the 1931 census, apparently the non-Muslims were in a majority. In the 1941 census, the Muslims had a marginal majority. The precise figures are contested.
The district had four tehsils, Shakargarh and Pathankot in the north, Gurdaspur and Batala in the south.
In Wavell's partition line, the whole of Gurdaspur district was included in 'Hindustan'. In the 'notional' partition line attached to the Independence of India Act, the whole district was included in 'Pakistan' (or at least that is what people believed at the time). However, it is said that the Independence Act wasn't setting out a 'partition line', which had to be decided by a separate Punjab Boundary Commission in due course. Rather it was a line demarcating the districts with Muslim/non-Muslim majority. This division was meant for the Punjab Legislative Assembly, which would sit in two separate sessions to decide whether Punjab was to be partitioned or not. The Muslim majority districts (green) were to sit in one session and the non-Muslim majority districts (pink) in another.
The Punjab Boundary Commission was made of four judges: 2 Muslim, 1 Sikh and 1 Hindu. Each of them came up with a different partition line. There was no consensus whatsoever. So, the task fell on Radcliffe to make the final decision (hence the name Radcliffe Line). Radcliffe knew ahead of time that the major disputes were along the Ravi river, with Lahore being Musim-majority and Amritsar non-Muslim majority. (As you can expect, the Muslim judges put Amritsar in Pakistan and the Hindu/Sikh judges put Lahore in India.) Assuming that Lahore and Amritsar would go two ways, the next question was the Gurdaspur district. He decided that the Shakargarh tehsil would go to Pakistan (reasonably), that the Pathankot to India (also reasonably), but that both Gurdaspur and Batala tehsils would go to India as well. This meant a 3-to-1 ratio in favour of non-Muslims and it became highly controversial.
Theories abound as to why Radcliffe did that. Prem Shankar Jha believes that it was because of Sikh shrines. But it is hard to tell if Radcliffe even knew about the Sikh shrines that were in the frame. The other theory, which has significant documentation to support it, is that the canals from the Ravi river that fed Amritsar went through the Gurdaspur and Batala tehsils. Radcliffe even floated the idea with his Commissioners whether the canals could be put under joint control of India and Pakistan. They agreed that it would be a good idea, but they said it wasn't in their mandate to decide that. So, it seems that all the four Commissioners knew that the fate of Gurdaspur and Batala tehsils was being decided, but I can't say whether they figured out that Shakargarh would go to Pakistan.
Kartarpur is in the Shakargarh tehsil and Dera Baba Nanak in the Gurdaspur tehsil. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:37, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Amanverma121, you have been edit-warring over the statements made about 1940s and 1950s history, claiming they were "non-cited claims". Both the statements you have removed are from the Tribune article titled "Access first promised in 1969". Here is a link to the article again [1]. Can you confirm that you have read the article? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:19, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
We have tried to minimize India-Pakistan bickering in this article, because that is not what the article is about. So, additions like this are not welcome.
There are various claims about Pakistan "offering" to open a corridor since 2000. Yet there were no official announcements or diplomatic exchanges regarding it. The only diplomatic exchanges that are confirmed are those during Vajpayee-Sharif bus diplomacy and the 2008 initiative provoked by Kuldip Singh Wadala and Ambassador McDonald. Finally, two unilateral announcements were made recently. Indian government states that until it made its own announcement the Pakistan government has neither confirmed nor denied its various "offers". -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:03, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Swapping the order of the flags is also not constructive. All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough,
16:51, 10 November 2019 (UTC).
The Indian Govt. had expressed reservations about Pakistan using this to stoke Khalistani passions. Also recently there were several articles [2] [3]%20 [4] on this. The "security concern" section should be expanded using this info.-- DBig Xrayᗙ 12:05, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi MTCoster! Can you tell why did you undid my revision and removed a valid reference provided by me about ETA required for corridor instead of visa travel?Is there any wiki policy in doing so? Guglani ( talk) 06:48, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
@ MTCoster please explain your undid revision action in light of above raised questions. Guglani ( talk) 15:16, 15 November 2019 (UTC) Guglani ( talk) 15:27, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
There is a quote from General beg. Kautilya3 thoughts on what can be added here and in which sections ? I feel the article above is useful. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:25, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
found one more here. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:26, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
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@ Kautilya3: I had removed passport free and made it visa free... and had put two sources for the same. You put back passport free? DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 20:25, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
per this source At Kartarpur Ceremony, Imran Khan Emphasises Cooperation, Says Army on 'Same Page
Atal Bihari Vajpayee, in 1999, had been the “first” to propose a visa-free corridor for pilgrims to travel from Dera Baba Nanak in India to Darbar Sahib in Pakistan during his visit to Lahore. The Pakistani government did not respond to this proposal, according to the MEA. The UPA government had also raised it in the last ten years at several levels.
I think this should be included in the article. Thoughts ? -- DBig Xrayᗙ 20:44, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
The proposal for the corridor has been on the table since 1988 — when Pakistan and India agreed in principle to construct a corridor from Dera Baba Nanak in India to Kartarpur Sahib in Pakistan — but tense relations between the two countries prevented progress on the plan.
The foreign minister recalled Quaid-i-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah's August 11, 1947 speech, quoting him as saying: "You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place or worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed that has nothing to do with the business of the State."
When I read this new info I am like, where did this angle come from!!! .... Considering all of this new information, the background and history part of this Wikipedia article needs a LOOOOT of work :D DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 13:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[...] the Sikh Diaspora has agreed to pay for the $17 million construction cost of the Kartarpur Peace Corridor [...]"
There is a lot of posturing by both sides. So we should be careful.
It seems fairly certain that the 1974 protocol on religious visits does not cover Kartarpur. The Indian MEA claims that it raised it several times. The Gurdwara was however "remained shut from 1947 to 2000", according to its caretaker. [1] Why did it get opened in 2000? Perhaps Vajpayee's prompting. But we can't be sure if it was Nawaz Sharif's initiative or Musharraf's. Remember the Kargil war intervening. So, it might have been some time after 2000 that it got opened. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 14:32, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
“Pakistan has several times offered to India that it will construct a road to Kartarpur,” says Singh. “The proposals were even approved and during the Musharraf era a tender was floated with 50 per cent of road construction being carried out. But India never responded.”
References
@
DiplomatTesterMan: you asked, where did this angle come from?
It came from the
Institute for Multi-Track Diplomacy, led by a former American diplomat, John W. McDonald. He also claims to have been the force behind the "People's bus" across the Kashmirs
video, part 1,
part 2. --
Kautilya3 (
talk)
20:43, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Not really arbitrary. This is the famous Gurdaspur award, the most contentious decision of all of Partition. Prem Shankar Jha notes:
The terms of reference of the Boundary Commission had stated that it would 'demarcate the boundaries of the two parts of the Punjab on the basis of ascertaining the contiguous majority areas of Muslims and non-Muslims. In doing so it will also take into account other factors.' When he saw this, Mountbatten sent a query to the Secretary of State for India, Lord Listowell, asking what 'other factors' might mean. Listowell, who had succeeded Pethick-Lawrence as Secretary of State for India, replied that these were entirely for the Punjab Boundary Commissioners to decide. However, he said, 'other factors must include the location of Sikh shrines'.[16] This looks very much like a directive to the Radcliffe Commission. Sir Cyril certainly paid heed to it, but not unduly at Pakistan's expense. [1]
He also states:
Radcliffe was giving Nankana Sahib in Sheikhupura district, the birthplace of Guru Nanak, and the second holiest shrine of the Sikhs, to Pakistan, as well as Lahore which contained Gurdwara Shahidganj, and four other important shrines related to Gurus Arjun Dev and Ram Das. He could hardly have cut Amritsar off too. If that was not to happen, Gurdaspur was the obvious choice, for it contained two other important shrines, Dera Baba Nanak and Sri Gobindpur. This, more than anything else, probably persuaded the Boundary Commission to decide from the outset that these tehsil must come to east Punjab.
Interestingly, there is no mention of Kartarpur here. Nankana Sahib is the second most important shrine for the Sikhs. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 15:14, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
References
I found a source connecting the 1974 protocol to Kartarpur.
Government’s view is that a faster and more efficient manner to ensure easy access to the sacred Shrine of Kartarpur Sahib for all Indian pilgrims is by seeking inclusion of the Kartarpur Sahib Shrine and further liberalization of the 1974 Protocol on visits to Religious Shrines. Government has raised the matter of expanding the list of Shrines included in the 1974 Protocol on visits to Religious Shrines including during meetings at the level of Foreign Ministers. There has been no response from Pakistan so far.
PIB, Government of India, MEA (30-July-2014 17:34 IST) - Land corridor to religious places in Pakistan [1]
So this is another aspect of the article that needs to be considered and added, as I mentioned above, and Kautilya first noted. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 15:31, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
References
The 1947 Gurdaspur district had four tehsils: Gurdaspur and Batala tehsils, which now form part of the Gurdaspur district, Pathankot tehsil, which is now the Pathankot district, and the Shakargarh tehsil, which is now part of the Narowal District. We should not link the 1947 Gurdaspur district to the present day Gurdaspur district. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 17:39, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Interesting tidbit of what the Indian press calls the "Sidhu card":
Sources told The Indian Express that Sidhu, who is also a minister in the Congress government in Punjab, was allocated a numbered seat towards the rear along with other guests, which he had occupied before he was approached by a protocol officer and escorted to a front-row seat. He was then seated next to Masood Khan, the president of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK), a person whose identity the Indian politician was not aware of until informed by an official of the Indian High Commission. [1]
Interesting dynamics! -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 19:46, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
References
Please compare these two paragraphs in the article -
1.
After partition, Indian Sikhs would go over informally, crossing a bridge on the Ravi river which joined Dera Baba Nanak with Kartarpur Sahib. But the bridge was destroyed in the Indo-Pakistan war of 1965 and once again in 1971 during the Bangladesh Liberation War. Until a border fence was set up in the area in 1986, Sikhs would go over the Indian Pakistan border illegally for the pilgrimage. [1]
2.
Gobind Singh, the caretaker of the gurdwara at Kartarpur, said the gurdwara had "remained shut from 1947 to 2000".[25] According to Akali leader Kuldeep Singh Wadala, the gurdwara had been abandoned till 2003. It served as a cattle shed for the villagers and its lands were taken over by share-croppers.[20] Since 2003, however, the Pakistani government has reportedly taken initiatives for the upkeep of Sikh religious shrines.
Both have reliable sources right?. But how could the the gurdwara be abandoned or remained shut for all these years.... if people went on over the border even before? DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 20:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
There is a full article written by Goraya, published in the "Journal of the Punjab University Historical Society". [2] It has this gem:
When Sir Cyril Radcliffe drew the boundary-line he happened to allot the whole of district Gurdaspur to Pakistan (see June 3, 1947 announcement). How could the universal point go to Pakistan alone? The miracles then began to happen. J.L.Nehru first Prime Minister of India exercised his influence over Mountbatten and the Partition Plan was revised. This time Gurdaspur was bisected.
So, Radcliffe supposedly drew a line 3 June 1947. But he didn't even arrive in India till 8 July. So there goes the reliability of Goraya as well as the Punjab University Historical Society. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:00, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
References
{{
citation}}
: CS1 maint: date format (
link)
Here is a quick summary of the partition of the 1947 Gurdaspur district. The population of the district was roughly 50-50 Muslim and non-Muslim. In the 1931 census, apparently the non-Muslims were in a majority. In the 1941 census, the Muslims had a marginal majority. The precise figures are contested.
The district had four tehsils, Shakargarh and Pathankot in the north, Gurdaspur and Batala in the south.
In Wavell's partition line, the whole of Gurdaspur district was included in 'Hindustan'. In the 'notional' partition line attached to the Independence of India Act, the whole district was included in 'Pakistan' (or at least that is what people believed at the time). However, it is said that the Independence Act wasn't setting out a 'partition line', which had to be decided by a separate Punjab Boundary Commission in due course. Rather it was a line demarcating the districts with Muslim/non-Muslim majority. This division was meant for the Punjab Legislative Assembly, which would sit in two separate sessions to decide whether Punjab was to be partitioned or not. The Muslim majority districts (green) were to sit in one session and the non-Muslim majority districts (pink) in another.
The Punjab Boundary Commission was made of four judges: 2 Muslim, 1 Sikh and 1 Hindu. Each of them came up with a different partition line. There was no consensus whatsoever. So, the task fell on Radcliffe to make the final decision (hence the name Radcliffe Line). Radcliffe knew ahead of time that the major disputes were along the Ravi river, with Lahore being Musim-majority and Amritsar non-Muslim majority. (As you can expect, the Muslim judges put Amritsar in Pakistan and the Hindu/Sikh judges put Lahore in India.) Assuming that Lahore and Amritsar would go two ways, the next question was the Gurdaspur district. He decided that the Shakargarh tehsil would go to Pakistan (reasonably), that the Pathankot to India (also reasonably), but that both Gurdaspur and Batala tehsils would go to India as well. This meant a 3-to-1 ratio in favour of non-Muslims and it became highly controversial.
Theories abound as to why Radcliffe did that. Prem Shankar Jha believes that it was because of Sikh shrines. But it is hard to tell if Radcliffe even knew about the Sikh shrines that were in the frame. The other theory, which has significant documentation to support it, is that the canals from the Ravi river that fed Amritsar went through the Gurdaspur and Batala tehsils. Radcliffe even floated the idea with his Commissioners whether the canals could be put under joint control of India and Pakistan. They agreed that it would be a good idea, but they said it wasn't in their mandate to decide that. So, it seems that all the four Commissioners knew that the fate of Gurdaspur and Batala tehsils was being decided, but I can't say whether they figured out that Shakargarh would go to Pakistan.
Kartarpur is in the Shakargarh tehsil and Dera Baba Nanak in the Gurdaspur tehsil. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:37, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Amanverma121, you have been edit-warring over the statements made about 1940s and 1950s history, claiming they were "non-cited claims". Both the statements you have removed are from the Tribune article titled "Access first promised in 1969". Here is a link to the article again [1]. Can you confirm that you have read the article? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:19, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
We have tried to minimize India-Pakistan bickering in this article, because that is not what the article is about. So, additions like this are not welcome.
There are various claims about Pakistan "offering" to open a corridor since 2000. Yet there were no official announcements or diplomatic exchanges regarding it. The only diplomatic exchanges that are confirmed are those during Vajpayee-Sharif bus diplomacy and the 2008 initiative provoked by Kuldip Singh Wadala and Ambassador McDonald. Finally, two unilateral announcements were made recently. Indian government states that until it made its own announcement the Pakistan government has neither confirmed nor denied its various "offers". -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:03, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Swapping the order of the flags is also not constructive. All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough,
16:51, 10 November 2019 (UTC).
The Indian Govt. had expressed reservations about Pakistan using this to stoke Khalistani passions. Also recently there were several articles [2] [3]%20 [4] on this. The "security concern" section should be expanded using this info.-- DBig Xrayᗙ 12:05, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi MTCoster! Can you tell why did you undid my revision and removed a valid reference provided by me about ETA required for corridor instead of visa travel?Is there any wiki policy in doing so? Guglani ( talk) 06:48, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
@ MTCoster please explain your undid revision action in light of above raised questions. Guglani ( talk) 15:16, 15 November 2019 (UTC) Guglani ( talk) 15:27, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
There is a quote from General beg. Kautilya3 thoughts on what can be added here and in which sections ? I feel the article above is useful. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:25, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
found one more here. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:26, 24 November 2019 (UTC)