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Support since in this instance "video game player" is obviously not precise enough. This one shouldn't have been moved, regardless of the consensus in the previous RM. —
Xezbeth (
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06:50, 12 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I would also be OK with any other unique identifier, as long as it distinguishes the two articles. This may mean the other article needs to be moved as well.
feminist (
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08:09, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I was thinking something similar when this came up, but I think we would be failing the purpose of the disambiguation portion. Almost no readers will know the exact age of the person they are looking for, whereas anyone who is familiar with one of these two people will know which game they play. If there were several decades between these two people's birthyears, I might have supported this, but in this case, I think it would be needlessly difficult. ~
Maplestrip/Mable (
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14:51, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Surely this is the same as with footballers who also use this identitifier. The disambiguation only works if a player only plays that game. Otherwise, we'll get things like
fly (call of duty and FORZA player) if they did both. Birth identifier makes most sense IMO. Why would the reader need to know the name, it would simply come up in the search. The DAB page should have information as to what games they played, or real names as identifiers anyway. Lee Vilenski(
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I certainly wouldn't want any double-disambiguations to happen, though I think we could decide more specific disambiguations on a case-by-case basis. It doesn't have to be consistently implemented for all video game players that share a name. ~
Maplestrip/Mable (
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18:09, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
But this is how we already do for traditional sporting athletes who happen to have the same name and position within their sport, not to mention we could just have a DAB page that explains this. So I support this. ~
Dissident93(
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Support original proposal and oppose disambiguation by birth year. I don't think there's much value in a false consistency in this instance, it is best decided case-by-case as to what the readers will find most
WP:RECOGNIZEable. And in this case it is very clear that "Call of Duty player" identifies the subject vastly better than the year of birth, which most people won't know, and which doesn't differentiate them much given there's only a five-year age difference. Also noting that the proposed title was the long-term title until a move less than a month ago, so has the advantage of recent incumbency. —
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Support since in this instance "video game player" is obviously not precise enough. This one shouldn't have been moved, regardless of the consensus in the previous RM. —
Xezbeth (
talk)
06:50, 12 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I would also be OK with any other unique identifier, as long as it distinguishes the two articles. This may mean the other article needs to be moved as well.
feminist (
talk)
08:09, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I was thinking something similar when this came up, but I think we would be failing the purpose of the disambiguation portion. Almost no readers will know the exact age of the person they are looking for, whereas anyone who is familiar with one of these two people will know which game they play. If there were several decades between these two people's birthyears, I might have supported this, but in this case, I think it would be needlessly difficult. ~
Maplestrip/Mable (
chat)
14:51, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Surely this is the same as with footballers who also use this identitifier. The disambiguation only works if a player only plays that game. Otherwise, we'll get things like
fly (call of duty and FORZA player) if they did both. Birth identifier makes most sense IMO. Why would the reader need to know the name, it would simply come up in the search. The DAB page should have information as to what games they played, or real names as identifiers anyway. Lee Vilenski(
talk •
contribs)15:27, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I certainly wouldn't want any double-disambiguations to happen, though I think we could decide more specific disambiguations on a case-by-case basis. It doesn't have to be consistently implemented for all video game players that share a name. ~
Maplestrip/Mable (
chat)
18:09, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
But this is how we already do for traditional sporting athletes who happen to have the same name and position within their sport, not to mention we could just have a DAB page that explains this. So I support this. ~
Dissident93(
talk)17:47, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Support original proposal and oppose disambiguation by birth year. I don't think there's much value in a false consistency in this instance, it is best decided case-by-case as to what the readers will find most
WP:RECOGNIZEable. And in this case it is very clear that "Call of Duty player" identifies the subject vastly better than the year of birth, which most people won't know, and which doesn't differentiate them much given there's only a five-year age difference. Also noting that the proposed title was the long-term title until a move less than a month ago, so has the advantage of recent incumbency. —
Amakuru (
talk)
20:02, 3 October 2018 (UTC)reply
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