Why are there no cities listed here? This page should mention and link to the cities of Kalymnos such as Pothia, for which there is already a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.183.136.12 ( talk) 14:52, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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Which page? Well, regarding the '20th century criterion', the Ottoman Empire extended to the Adriatic. Also, at one point, most of Europe was German or Italian and they had their own place names. Do we include those as well? The answer has to be yes, because the Dodecanese only became Italian in 1912. Politis 12:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
FuturePerfectSunrise proposed [1]: "In principle, we should stick to the proposed guideline at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)".
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) says:
This page in a nutshell: Use modern English names for titles and in articles. Historical names or names in other languages can be used in the lead if they are frequently used and important enough to be valuable to readers, and should be used in articles with caution. |
Interesting - I hadn't noticed that Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) had been updated and promoted to actual guideline status in the meantime. It's been slightly modified too from what I had seen then. That's a positive step. Perhaps if you plan to apply changes based on that text to a wider group of Greek/Turkish articles, we should hold another brief consultation on our previous Greek/Turkish discussion page first. Add your proposal there, and refer to the now updated general guideline page with a short explanation on what consequences that has for the Greek/Turkish articles status quo. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't see any reason why it's an issue about moving the Turkish and Italian names to the lead. Look at articles about places in Turkey, they all have the Greek name: Trabzon, Samsun, Kars, İznik, Sakarya River. We should be consistent on all articles and not make an exception simply for this one. In fact, these two names were in the lead for years before they were removed a few months ago. Khoi khoi 23:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
The second sentence under the religion heading does not make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.202.6.193 ( talk) 15:03, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
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The article does not give mention in the "HISTORY" section, or as a new section, of inclusion in famous stories and myths. For example, in "Daedalus and Icarus" by Ovid [1], the flight path of the protagonists is stated as being Crete - Samos - Delos - Paros - Lebinthus - Calymne. Here is the passage:
"...They were over Samos, Juno’s sacred island,
Delos and Paros toward the left, Lebinthus
Visible to the right, and another island,
Calymne, rich in honey. And the boy
Thought: This is wonderful! and left his father,
Soared higher, higher, drawn to the vast heaven,
Nearer the sun, and the wax that held the wings
Melted in that fierce heat, and the bare arms
Beat up and down in air, and lacking courage
Took hold of nothing. Father! he cried, and Father!
Until the blue sea hushed him, the dark water
Men call the Icarian now."
Therefore we see that Kalymnos is the last land Icarus passed over before the failure of his wings. His name is memorialized in the name of the "Icarian" Sea [
[2]] nearby (another item I see is not visible in text or map). Further, that Kalymnos was known and praised in antiquity for it's honey, an important commodity of much value as it would be along the common shipping trade routes near the coast of Asia Minor.
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02:21, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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I wish to see a mention and description of the various names or spelling: Kalymnos/Calymna/Calymne/(others?).
Why are there no cities listed here? This page should mention and link to the cities of Kalymnos such as Pothia, for which there is already a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.183.136.12 ( talk) 14:52, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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Which page? Well, regarding the '20th century criterion', the Ottoman Empire extended to the Adriatic. Also, at one point, most of Europe was German or Italian and they had their own place names. Do we include those as well? The answer has to be yes, because the Dodecanese only became Italian in 1912. Politis 12:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
FuturePerfectSunrise proposed [1]: "In principle, we should stick to the proposed guideline at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)".
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) says:
This page in a nutshell: Use modern English names for titles and in articles. Historical names or names in other languages can be used in the lead if they are frequently used and important enough to be valuable to readers, and should be used in articles with caution. |
Interesting - I hadn't noticed that Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) had been updated and promoted to actual guideline status in the meantime. It's been slightly modified too from what I had seen then. That's a positive step. Perhaps if you plan to apply changes based on that text to a wider group of Greek/Turkish articles, we should hold another brief consultation on our previous Greek/Turkish discussion page first. Add your proposal there, and refer to the now updated general guideline page with a short explanation on what consequences that has for the Greek/Turkish articles status quo. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't see any reason why it's an issue about moving the Turkish and Italian names to the lead. Look at articles about places in Turkey, they all have the Greek name: Trabzon, Samsun, Kars, İznik, Sakarya River. We should be consistent on all articles and not make an exception simply for this one. In fact, these two names were in the lead for years before they were removed a few months ago. Khoi khoi 23:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
The second sentence under the religion heading does not make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.202.6.193 ( talk) 15:03, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
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The article does not give mention in the "HISTORY" section, or as a new section, of inclusion in famous stories and myths. For example, in "Daedalus and Icarus" by Ovid [1], the flight path of the protagonists is stated as being Crete - Samos - Delos - Paros - Lebinthus - Calymne. Here is the passage:
"...They were over Samos, Juno’s sacred island,
Delos and Paros toward the left, Lebinthus
Visible to the right, and another island,
Calymne, rich in honey. And the boy
Thought: This is wonderful! and left his father,
Soared higher, higher, drawn to the vast heaven,
Nearer the sun, and the wax that held the wings
Melted in that fierce heat, and the bare arms
Beat up and down in air, and lacking courage
Took hold of nothing. Father! he cried, and Father!
Until the blue sea hushed him, the dark water
Men call the Icarian now."
Therefore we see that Kalymnos is the last land Icarus passed over before the failure of his wings. His name is memorialized in the name of the "Icarian" Sea [
[2]] nearby (another item I see is not visible in text or map). Further, that Kalymnos was known and praised in antiquity for it's honey, an important commodity of much value as it would be along the common shipping trade routes near the coast of Asia Minor.
Jopower (
talk)
02:21, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
References
I wish to see a mention and description of the various names or spelling: Kalymnos/Calymna/Calymne/(others?).