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Among large group of kadia ( a occupational name of community ) there are various ethnic communities like Muslim Kadia, Chunaras, Mistris & Kadia Kshatriyas, Kadia Kumbhars, which are listed separately by gujarat governemnt in other backward class. Hence you the community needs a spearate page. the ref also mention same. one cannot simply redirect page, what about contents of this page???? Jethwarp ( talk) 04:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
kadias are not kshatriya.stop using such terms for caste glorification.there are various backward subcastes only.kadia is the generic name of the caste.06:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pernoctator ( talk • contribs)
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Please go to link : (1)
[1] Encyclopaedia of backward castes, Volume 2 By M. L. Mathur and (2)
[2] Land and people of Indian states and union territories: in 36 volumes. Gujarat By S. C. Bhatt, Gopal K. Bhargava. Both mention KADIA KSHATRIYAS as a separate Backward Class. Among the Kadia (community) - there are three major groups 1.
Kadia Kumbhar, 2.
Kadia Kshatriyas and
Kadia (Muslim). All have separate pages. Please note that the citations of above books are given in article. One cannot simply re-direct a page. First create a consensus for a redirect.
Jethwarp (
talk) 06:00, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
The community is well aware about its varna status and regcognize itself as Kshatriya in the four fold varna system. This self perception is reciprocated by other communities
The clans are named after dead warriors who are looked upon as gods. Solanki, Chaora, Tank, Parmer, Chowhan, Maru, Varu, Waghela, Chotalia, Gohel, Bagera, Wasani, Rathor, Kacha, Vadav etc are some of the clan names. The clan tank has division, viz., again Mewara tank, chitora tank and Bajania tank
As I am aware that many of these names such as Gohel and Yadav previously had links to other pages. -- Splashley ( talk) 11:24, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
May I ask why no book published by these people is deemed to be reliable? -- Splashley ( talk) 11:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
That is absolutely fair and completely understandable. However, I assumed a book published by the Anthropological Survey of India, bearing the name of it's director at the time Kumar Suresh Singh would be reliable, at least to some degree. Especially considering it's parent body, The Indian Ministry of Culture has no real stake in these 'caste disputes' and would therefore seem to be a fairly unbiased source. not only that, would it not be prudent to at least voice the information proposed in this book as a possibility, even if it isn't agreed in all cases by all parties. Any article based on caste or family will always have disputes, I think providing information while offering differing viewpoints would be useful. -- Splashley ( talk) 11:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Are the Kadia kshatriyas basically a Muslim community? Do we have any sources that would confirm this or that they are mostly Hindu? - Sitush ( talk) 11:48, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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Among large group of kadia ( a occupational name of community ) there are various ethnic communities like Muslim Kadia, Chunaras, Mistris & Kadia Kshatriyas, Kadia Kumbhars, which are listed separately by gujarat governemnt in other backward class. Hence you the community needs a spearate page. the ref also mention same. one cannot simply redirect page, what about contents of this page???? Jethwarp ( talk) 04:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
kadias are not kshatriya.stop using such terms for caste glorification.there are various backward subcastes only.kadia is the generic name of the caste.06:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pernoctator ( talk • contribs)
ATTN : User : Pernoctator :
Please go to link : (1)
[1] Encyclopaedia of backward castes, Volume 2 By M. L. Mathur and (2)
[2] Land and people of Indian states and union territories: in 36 volumes. Gujarat By S. C. Bhatt, Gopal K. Bhargava. Both mention KADIA KSHATRIYAS as a separate Backward Class. Among the Kadia (community) - there are three major groups 1.
Kadia Kumbhar, 2.
Kadia Kshatriyas and
Kadia (Muslim). All have separate pages. Please note that the citations of above books are given in article. One cannot simply re-direct a page. First create a consensus for a redirect.
Jethwarp (
talk) 06:00, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
The community is well aware about its varna status and regcognize itself as Kshatriya in the four fold varna system. This self perception is reciprocated by other communities
The clans are named after dead warriors who are looked upon as gods. Solanki, Chaora, Tank, Parmer, Chowhan, Maru, Varu, Waghela, Chotalia, Gohel, Bagera, Wasani, Rathor, Kacha, Vadav etc are some of the clan names. The clan tank has division, viz., again Mewara tank, chitora tank and Bajania tank
As I am aware that many of these names such as Gohel and Yadav previously had links to other pages. -- Splashley ( talk) 11:24, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
May I ask why no book published by these people is deemed to be reliable? -- Splashley ( talk) 11:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
That is absolutely fair and completely understandable. However, I assumed a book published by the Anthropological Survey of India, bearing the name of it's director at the time Kumar Suresh Singh would be reliable, at least to some degree. Especially considering it's parent body, The Indian Ministry of Culture has no real stake in these 'caste disputes' and would therefore seem to be a fairly unbiased source. not only that, would it not be prudent to at least voice the information proposed in this book as a possibility, even if it isn't agreed in all cases by all parties. Any article based on caste or family will always have disputes, I think providing information while offering differing viewpoints would be useful. -- Splashley ( talk) 11:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Are the Kadia kshatriyas basically a Muslim community? Do we have any sources that would confirm this or that they are mostly Hindu? - Sitush ( talk) 11:48, 17 February 2012 (UTC)