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According to Entertainment Weekly, the title of the film includes a hyphen, although EW uses a longer dash in their article (Justice League — Part 1). - Richiekim ( talk) 16:26, 22 February 2016 (UTC) Superman is brought back to life : spoiler alert
Is the cast for both part one and two one in the same? Although it may seem like that it doesnt look like each film is filming back to back. It appears as though Part One is filming firs . But nothing on part two. Also, i kñowthis isnt a source, by I couldnt find somethin reliable or from Empire Magazine itaelf it appears that Diana Prince is 5,000 years old and immortal. As well as being an antiques dealer. Here is the source. Npamusic ( talk) 00:47, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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Should this be moved to Justice League (film) from Justice League (2017 film) since there is no other movie named Justice League? Ash wki ( talk) 16:52, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Is this film going to be a sequel to Batman v Superman? 173.55.97.103 ( talk) 23:32, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Should we already include a Reception section to have early thoughts on the trailer? DrkBlueXG ( talk) 15:26, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. SST flyer 05:59, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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Please stop adding Jesse Eisenberg to the main cast until he's actually confirmed to be starring. Right now, we know he's in the film. That's it. Dark Knight 2149 22:15, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Diane Lane, who portrayed Martha Kent in Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, talked about an experience she had on the set of Justice League on last night's (Oct-7-16) episode of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
Here is the clip from the program's official YouTube channel. I have no idea how to source this, or even if using a brief anecdote from a talk show violates any of Wikipedia's rules about sources. I was hoping someone else would know how to handle this.
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What is our source for the order of the cast list? People keep moving Cavill's name up and down the list, and I think it may be appropriate to add a note stating that he shouldn't be moved, once we get him to the right spot. - RM ( talk) 21:24, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
Producer Charles Roven confirms Matt Damon as Darkseid. True or false? International Business Times
With all of the press and coverage the media, and Warner Bros./DC Films has made regarding Joss Whedon joining the film as writer of new and reshot scenes, as well as director of those and the post-production process - why are we waiting for a 'more official statement'? How much more official can it be? That along with the fact that he brought on Danny Elfman to compose those scenes (possibly to re-score the whole film as well); what makes him 'officially' a director of this? Opinions, anyone?-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 05:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
I would think with the private screening of justice league. joss whedon should get credit for the reshoot and for finishing the movie. Yes zack snyder finished half the movie but that was in june. So far whedon have been finishing the movie himself. Underdog0123 ( talk) 05:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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And what would you like to edit? Nobody ( talk) 06:50, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Has it been confirmed whether or not Junkie XL's work on Justice League will still be used alongside Elfman's work, or if Danny Elfman will be the sole composer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.148.139.160 ( talk) 00:47, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
No, they didn't. 40 seconds in, you'll see for yourself. They are both credited for composing. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 05:05, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Since Fandango's Erik Davis has confirmed here on Twitter ( https://twitter.com/ErikDavis/status/922454655690596355) that Justice League is 121 minutes long, can we please add it to the film's wiki page, now? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.22.19.82 ( talk) 14:49, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
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96.242.120.51 ( talk) 20:47, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Empire Cinemas have tweeted out that Justice League is announced to be 119 minutes and 53 seconds, which is estimated at 120 minutes or 2 hours: https://twitter.com/EmpireCinemas/status/922513823587762177. Can we please add this onto the film's wiki page? PLEASE? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.242.120.51 ( talk • contribs)
Some of the citations need a serious looking to. In my experience, sites like CinemaBlend and ComicBook.com do virtually no original reporting and are re-reporting from some other source that did the actual work. In such cases, they almost always link back to that original source, and it's the original source we should be citing. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 13:58, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Since JL is officially classified by the BBFC as 120 mnutes (2 hours) long via this link, http://www.empirecinemas.co.uk/synopsis/justice_league/f5831, can we please add it into the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.22.19.82 ( talk) 15:40, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
I know it says add accordingly to JL movie website, but still shouldn't Ciarán Hinds be added? I mean he is the main antagonist and I am betting that he'll appear more than J.K. Simmons or Connie Nielsen. Ciarán Hinds as Steppenwolf is even depicted as part of the main cast in the "Cast" section of the article with a good chunk of info about his role in the film. At least we can agree that he should be included at most last in the cast build in the infobox. Just saying if not it's okay. -- TDKR Chicago 101 ( talk) 05:16, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
The BBFC has confirmed Justice League is 120 minutes (2 hours) long: http://bbfc.co.uk/releases/justice-league-film. Please add this into it's film page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.220.106.162 ( talk) 14:04, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
The budget has been announced as $300M, as confirmed by likes of Collider and The Wall Street Journal. Feel those sources are sufficient to use. Thoughts/concerns? http://collider.com/justice-league-runtime-budget-revealed/ TropicAces ( talk) 04:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Gal Gadot/Wonder Woman is the female lead of Justice League, not Amy Adams since she has been the only female characer in this film to appear on a poster and she has been very heavily featured in all the trailers. So unless an official cast list from Warner Bros. says otherwise, Gal Gadot will continue to be listed as the female lead from now on. Lois Lane is only a supporting character in the film. DCTrinity ( talk) 22:34, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Please Fix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.112.144.129 ( talk) 19:39, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Why is plot for the film not added even though the film has released? Wikipedia should not censor for spoilers or any other reasons. 122.171.227.21 ( talk) 09:49, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
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82.219.7.1 ( talk) 13:53, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
When is the premise being updated to the plot of the movie?
Where is the coverage in this article about Rotten Tomatoes withholding the score for Justice League? There are many articles about this. It should not be omitted from this Wikipedia article. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 16:35, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Guys Antiope can be seen in the trailer, that scene was in the movie before Steppenwolf kills the lantern :D just like Ares and Zeus, she never spoke. 181.142.44.146 ( talk) 19:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Why remove the mention of the cameo appearance of Kevin Costner as Pa Kent? In BvS article mentions the cameo photo appearance of Chris Pine as Steve Trevor. OscarFercho ( talk) 02:59, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
It sould be: "Gary Clark Jr., Sigrid and The White Stripes have also been featured in the Justice League album" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.142.44.146 ( talk) 19:07, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
This scene is for laughs and does not add anything to the overall understanding of the plot, nor impact anything the way the end credit scene is. WP:MOSFILM#Plot points out that gags should not be put into plot summaries, and that's all this is. Don't spout to me about it being important because it's from the comics, because that's irrelevant to this film. It was for comic fans, and there is not a mandate to include every post film scene in the plot summary simply because they exist. What importance does it add to this page, about the film itself? I'm curious if someone can tell me the importance that isn't based on knowledge of comic book lore. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:52, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
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WP:SYNTH at worst.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/11/22/box-office-as-justice-league-crosses-325m-should-dc-films-be-saved/#7b4af4775e4f Film Box Office Crossed 325M , Update it . — Preceding unsigned comment added by OthaDAW ( talk • contribs) 18:45, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
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The budget of the film "Justice League" is being shown as 300 million but can it be changed to 250 - 300 million - the link to where I found this information https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/justice-league-box-office-setback-dcs-superhero-universe-1059826 - it would be a pleasure to see this happen! :) MovieCube ( talk) 04:02, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
"maybe in the future this can be a fun team to watch? Ezra Miller sure looks like he’s having fun, so that’s promising. The actors involved are all pretty good. They just need someone in charge to have them do something interesting – cough, Patty Jenkins, cough."
This is the kind of talk you hear from a high schooler. "Miller sure looks like he's having fun", "actors are all pretty good". Is this the quote you select to include in the article to represent the critical reception it received. Seriously?! If I needed to hear this I would call my 14 year old cousin and ask. Seriously though, it's been over a week. Why is this still a quote that's included in the Wikipedia article? Is no one bothering? This is not a review of the film, nor is this quote even remotely helpful to understand the "critical reception" received by the film. Inclusion of this quote is absolutely ridiculous.
How someone thought that it's logical to include this quote in the Wikipedia article to describe the "critical" reception the film received is beyond me. 112.110.76.41 ( talk) 16:58, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
I think referring to Wonder Woman as "Prince" is both ridiculous and ambiguous, because people are bound to think of Prince before realizing it's the rarely used last name of Wonder Woman's human identity (plus Aquaman is an actual prince). She's referred to as "Diana" throughout all the movie. Kumagoro-42 ( talk) 13:29, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Did Joss Whedon "write the screenplay" that Snyder used, or was he given a screenplay credit in placed of a co-director credit even though what he actually did was much more "directing" than "writing"? Our first paragraph currently cites the "official" credits as fact, but the second paragraph very strongly implies otherwise. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 07:20, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
the film is directed by Zack Snyder with a screenplay by ... Joss Whedonis definitely not accurate to the reality of the situation and is not technically supported by the film credits, which don't contradict the reality of the situation. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 20:48, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
which means that they contributed separately and not togetherYes, and our article -- or at least the first paragraph -- implies they did so together.
Are you arguing that somehow that needs to be in the first couple of sentences?No. Please don't put words in my mouth. Technically, MOS:FILM says
The first paragraph of the lead section should also identify the director and the star or stars of the film. If any writers or producers are well-known, they can also be identified in the paragraph.Whedon is definitely well-known, but I don't know if the same could be said of Terrio; certainly Whedon is much better known than Terrio. My solution would be to cut the writing credits from the opening paragraph entirely and add them to the second paragraph where they can be appropriately nuanced (and, frankly, where a couple more blue links would not look quite so messy). Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 21:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
According to this link, it will be available on DVD in March, with dates for digital release in February. Since there are requests to protect this page, I will leave it up to someone else to add this info. But here's the link: https://www.dvdsreleasedates.com/movies/5978/Justice-League-2017.html Aidensdaddy2k9 ( talk) 00:58, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Most of the article's I've read place the film's break even point at somewhere between $700 and $750 million. However, this page ( http://deadline.com/2017/11/justice-league-opening-weekend-box-office-lower-thor-ragnarok-wonder-the-star-1202211094/) contains the cryptic statement that "if the film clears $700M-$750M global, after ancillaries, it would profit, but a breakeven scenario exists in the high $600M global B.O. range which is where this Snyder opus is bound to final." This confuses me. By definition, if a film exceeds its break-even point, it turns a profit. So how can Justice League require somewhere in the $600 million range to "break even" but more than $700 million to "profit"? Shouldn't the break-even point and the profitability point be the same? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.217.19.207 ( talk) 22:52, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Film studios don't spend $300 million to produce a movie, and another $100 million on global marketing in the hopes of barely going beyond the break even point. They expect to get a return on their investment more than equal to what was spent. Simply managing to break even is colossal failure. WB saying that they consider $700-$750 million to be profitable after ancillaries was just them trying to put a positive spin on what they expected to be a bad situation. As it turned out, the box office returns were even worse than they were afraid of. By WB stating that they would make a profit from ancillaries is an incredibly bad sign. That means they're having to include sales of toys, t-shirts, lunchboxes, etc. Movies are supposed to drive toy sales as an extra stream of income, not rely upon them to make up for box office losses. 2600:6C56:6500:B0:58B8:76E4:2328:F893 ( talk) 02:47, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Can someone erase the title "Box Office Bomb" part? Justice League made its budget back but the loss comes from the expensive marketing campaign this you cant call it a bomb. Zomgrose ( talk) 03:23, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi @ Bignole: For others, I added familiar superhero names, such as "Batman" and "Aquaman", in parentheses to the Plot section. Bignole reverted my changes with the note: unnecessary, we have a cast list that has them, plus if they aren't used in the film we don't use them.
I have two demurrals.
First, are you saying that the superhero names aren't used at all in the film? That no where in the movie is "Batman" or "Flash" ever mentioned? But Superman is mentioned (???), at least his death: the article says "mankind is in mourning over Superman". And as long as we're using secret identities as names, shouldn't it be Diana Prince rather than Diana?
Second, Wikipedia is intended for the average person, not superhero comic fans or butterfly enthusiasts. The average person reading as far as the plot won't recognize the bulk of the secret identities, certainly beyond Clark Kent (and possibly Bruce Wayne). Now you wiki-linked the names, which is good. I'm just wondering: someone who's new to the concept of secret identities, will they ever "get" the references to (say) Authur Curry or Victor Stone? Won't they simply give up, never getting to the Cast section.
My main point is that most people reading the article won't understand that Wayne and Allen and Stone are superheros, not average civilians. And isn't that the main purpose of the movie?
Your thoughts? -- RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 17:34, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Again, because the plot is written based on what's on the screen, not based on what you know personally as a fan. If you watch the film, they never call Barry "the Flash", they just call him Barry. Arthur is just Arthur and Victor is just Victor. Even Diana is just Diana. Victor calls Clark "Superman", and he is known in the world as "Superman". Batman is called Batman, and is known in that world as Batman. The same is not true (as of right now) for any of those others. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:32, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Just a comment. This article (and many like it) are written as if the reader is familiar with the DCEU. In my opinion, the average reader is not even aware of the ins and outs of the DCU and may not be cognizant of many the concepts of a shared universe.
For example, Bignole reverted the change of metahuman to superhero alter-egos in the Plot section because the characters aren't superheroes as yet (and therefore don't have alter egos). That is well and good if you accept the DCEU timeline. But we, as Wikipedia editors, are supposed to deal with the real timeline, out here in the real world. Not some made up timeline (DCEU) which is a version of the another made up timeline (DCU) which is a generational descendent of the Justice League/Society in the Golden Age of Comic Books (see All Star Comics #3, 1940).
We can't say:
Maybe we can put a banner in the front of the Plot section that says something like:
Or even:
It's just if we don't provide some connection between the Plot Section and "Batman and Wonder Woman recruit The Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg" in the lead, you're going to have a whole bunch of confused readers. -- RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 05:05, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
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I have created an intial draft for a page of Justice League Zack Snyder's cut, here's it's link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Justice_League:_Zack_Snyder%27s_Cut?markasread=159444860&markasreadwiki=enwiki
However, it has been rejected for the mentioned reasons, and suggested to be included in the main page of Justice League (film) rather than being in a separate page of itself, however the page should be accepted as a separate page for several reasons:
- The main Justice League page is protected.
- This is an intial page, and it's planned to be expanded in the future, since there's alot of ongoing information about the cut; it's history and confirmed differences from the theatrical cut, for example.
-The search for Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League is trending, since it's confirmed by the director himself, therefore, there's a potential release for this cut in the future.
-The cut is speculated to be completely different movie from the theatrical cut - similar to Richard Donner cut of Superman II, which has it's own page on Wikipedia - for several reasons: -The cut uses different soundtrack, visual effects and tone (similar to those seen in first Justice League trailer, before the departure of Zack Snyder). -Several scenes are completely reshooted by director Joss Whedon (rather than Zack Snyder). -The cut has different length. -Several characters made an appearance in the cut, but did not appear in the theatrical cut (most notably: Darksied), additionally, the cut uses completely different design for the main vilain Steppenwolf. Snake Fisher ( talk) 17:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Perfect example is Richard Donner cut of Superman II, it's not just a cut, but rather, it's a completely different film. Due to confirmation of this cut by the director himself, there's so much people wondering about it, any brief information will help, and Wikipedia should provide the information people need.
Please, I have worked hard on the page, I will appreciate it being accepted, there's so much information that I wanted to expand in that page, but it would take much time. At the meantime, a brief information about the cut is sufficient, more to come in the future.
Furthermore, Zack Snyder's Cut is not mentioned in the main page of Justice League (film) Snake Fisher ( talk)
Some of these discussions could be archived. DCBVS ( talk) 16:57, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
https://screenrant.com/justice-league-movie-snyder-cut-wikipedia-controversy/
I don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but apparently the Snyder cult doesn't like what the article has to say about the Snyder Cut. The Snyder Cut Twitter is now urging all fans to create accounts and change the article in their favour.
Yeah, this is bad. Expect a flood of single-purpose accounts and POV-based WP:COI editing very soon. I'm about to alert WP:ANI of this nonsense. Bignole, you probably want to see this. Dark Knight 2149 16:42, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
The real bodget is 600m Mohamadwolf ( talk) 18:45, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
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Snyder cut section has som serious bias issues. One the video he released isn't proof of a cut, anyone could have dressed that up. Two everyone else on the production says there is no cut, who would be in the know to say so. But that isn't covered in the section. Like https://www.geekfeed.com/justice-league-vfx-artist-says-no-snyder-cut/ That this troll campaign has spread to wikileaks and wikileaks has allowed it is really sad. 96.31.190.97 ( talk) 23:41, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
So, is Julian Lewis Jones actually confirmed to be playing the Green Lantern, Abin Sur, or did somebody just put that on here as a wild guess? - DCTrinity ( talk) 1:38, 2 February 2017
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Justice League (2017 movi). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 17#Justice League (2017 movi) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. TheAwesome Hwyh 17:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
While Box Office Pro is saying JL will open to $150M in it's opening weekend, Deadline is saying JL will open to $110-120M in it's opening weekend: http://deadline.com/2017/10/ben-affleck-justice-league-gal-gadot-box-office-projection-1202195005/
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According to Entertainment Weekly, the title of the film includes a hyphen, although EW uses a longer dash in their article (Justice League — Part 1). - Richiekim ( talk) 16:26, 22 February 2016 (UTC) Superman is brought back to life : spoiler alert
Is the cast for both part one and two one in the same? Although it may seem like that it doesnt look like each film is filming back to back. It appears as though Part One is filming firs . But nothing on part two. Also, i kñowthis isnt a source, by I couldnt find somethin reliable or from Empire Magazine itaelf it appears that Diana Prince is 5,000 years old and immortal. As well as being an antiques dealer. Here is the source. Npamusic ( talk) 00:47, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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Should this be moved to Justice League (film) from Justice League (2017 film) since there is no other movie named Justice League? Ash wki ( talk) 16:52, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Is this film going to be a sequel to Batman v Superman? 173.55.97.103 ( talk) 23:32, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Should we already include a Reception section to have early thoughts on the trailer? DrkBlueXG ( talk) 15:26, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. SST flyer 05:59, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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Please stop adding Jesse Eisenberg to the main cast until he's actually confirmed to be starring. Right now, we know he's in the film. That's it. Dark Knight 2149 22:15, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Diane Lane, who portrayed Martha Kent in Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, talked about an experience she had on the set of Justice League on last night's (Oct-7-16) episode of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
Here is the clip from the program's official YouTube channel. I have no idea how to source this, or even if using a brief anecdote from a talk show violates any of Wikipedia's rules about sources. I was hoping someone else would know how to handle this.
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What is our source for the order of the cast list? People keep moving Cavill's name up and down the list, and I think it may be appropriate to add a note stating that he shouldn't be moved, once we get him to the right spot. - RM ( talk) 21:24, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
Producer Charles Roven confirms Matt Damon as Darkseid. True or false? International Business Times
With all of the press and coverage the media, and Warner Bros./DC Films has made regarding Joss Whedon joining the film as writer of new and reshot scenes, as well as director of those and the post-production process - why are we waiting for a 'more official statement'? How much more official can it be? That along with the fact that he brought on Danny Elfman to compose those scenes (possibly to re-score the whole film as well); what makes him 'officially' a director of this? Opinions, anyone?-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 05:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
I would think with the private screening of justice league. joss whedon should get credit for the reshoot and for finishing the movie. Yes zack snyder finished half the movie but that was in june. So far whedon have been finishing the movie himself. Underdog0123 ( talk) 05:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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And what would you like to edit? Nobody ( talk) 06:50, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Has it been confirmed whether or not Junkie XL's work on Justice League will still be used alongside Elfman's work, or if Danny Elfman will be the sole composer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.148.139.160 ( talk) 00:47, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
No, they didn't. 40 seconds in, you'll see for yourself. They are both credited for composing. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 05:05, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Since Fandango's Erik Davis has confirmed here on Twitter ( https://twitter.com/ErikDavis/status/922454655690596355) that Justice League is 121 minutes long, can we please add it to the film's wiki page, now? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.22.19.82 ( talk) 14:49, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
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96.242.120.51 ( talk) 20:47, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Empire Cinemas have tweeted out that Justice League is announced to be 119 minutes and 53 seconds, which is estimated at 120 minutes or 2 hours: https://twitter.com/EmpireCinemas/status/922513823587762177. Can we please add this onto the film's wiki page? PLEASE? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.242.120.51 ( talk • contribs)
Some of the citations need a serious looking to. In my experience, sites like CinemaBlend and ComicBook.com do virtually no original reporting and are re-reporting from some other source that did the actual work. In such cases, they almost always link back to that original source, and it's the original source we should be citing. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 13:58, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Since JL is officially classified by the BBFC as 120 mnutes (2 hours) long via this link, http://www.empirecinemas.co.uk/synopsis/justice_league/f5831, can we please add it into the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.22.19.82 ( talk) 15:40, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
I know it says add accordingly to JL movie website, but still shouldn't Ciarán Hinds be added? I mean he is the main antagonist and I am betting that he'll appear more than J.K. Simmons or Connie Nielsen. Ciarán Hinds as Steppenwolf is even depicted as part of the main cast in the "Cast" section of the article with a good chunk of info about his role in the film. At least we can agree that he should be included at most last in the cast build in the infobox. Just saying if not it's okay. -- TDKR Chicago 101 ( talk) 05:16, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
The BBFC has confirmed Justice League is 120 minutes (2 hours) long: http://bbfc.co.uk/releases/justice-league-film. Please add this into it's film page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.220.106.162 ( talk) 14:04, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
The budget has been announced as $300M, as confirmed by likes of Collider and The Wall Street Journal. Feel those sources are sufficient to use. Thoughts/concerns? http://collider.com/justice-league-runtime-budget-revealed/ TropicAces ( talk) 04:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Gal Gadot/Wonder Woman is the female lead of Justice League, not Amy Adams since she has been the only female characer in this film to appear on a poster and she has been very heavily featured in all the trailers. So unless an official cast list from Warner Bros. says otherwise, Gal Gadot will continue to be listed as the female lead from now on. Lois Lane is only a supporting character in the film. DCTrinity ( talk) 22:34, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Please Fix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.112.144.129 ( talk) 19:39, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Why is plot for the film not added even though the film has released? Wikipedia should not censor for spoilers or any other reasons. 122.171.227.21 ( talk) 09:49, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
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82.219.7.1 ( talk) 13:53, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
When is the premise being updated to the plot of the movie?
Where is the coverage in this article about Rotten Tomatoes withholding the score for Justice League? There are many articles about this. It should not be omitted from this Wikipedia article. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 16:35, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Guys Antiope can be seen in the trailer, that scene was in the movie before Steppenwolf kills the lantern :D just like Ares and Zeus, she never spoke. 181.142.44.146 ( talk) 19:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Why remove the mention of the cameo appearance of Kevin Costner as Pa Kent? In BvS article mentions the cameo photo appearance of Chris Pine as Steve Trevor. OscarFercho ( talk) 02:59, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
It sould be: "Gary Clark Jr., Sigrid and The White Stripes have also been featured in the Justice League album" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.142.44.146 ( talk) 19:07, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
This scene is for laughs and does not add anything to the overall understanding of the plot, nor impact anything the way the end credit scene is. WP:MOSFILM#Plot points out that gags should not be put into plot summaries, and that's all this is. Don't spout to me about it being important because it's from the comics, because that's irrelevant to this film. It was for comic fans, and there is not a mandate to include every post film scene in the plot summary simply because they exist. What importance does it add to this page, about the film itself? I'm curious if someone can tell me the importance that isn't based on knowledge of comic book lore. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:52, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
I was going to start tagging the article but first-why is so much of the content uncited?
Most of the cites
currently numbered between 18 and 49 were apparently retrieved in 2008, five years before this article's creation. And some of it, like The news came around the same time that Joss Whedon's long-developed Wonder Woman film had been cancelled, as well as The Flash, written and directed by David S. Goyer.
looks like irrelevant extrapolations from old entertainment news fluff pieces that had nothing to do with this topic at best, and
WP:SYNTH at worst.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/11/22/box-office-as-justice-league-crosses-325m-should-dc-films-be-saved/#7b4af4775e4f Film Box Office Crossed 325M , Update it . — Preceding unsigned comment added by OthaDAW ( talk • contribs) 18:45, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
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The budget of the film "Justice League" is being shown as 300 million but can it be changed to 250 - 300 million - the link to where I found this information https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/justice-league-box-office-setback-dcs-superhero-universe-1059826 - it would be a pleasure to see this happen! :) MovieCube ( talk) 04:02, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
"maybe in the future this can be a fun team to watch? Ezra Miller sure looks like he’s having fun, so that’s promising. The actors involved are all pretty good. They just need someone in charge to have them do something interesting – cough, Patty Jenkins, cough."
This is the kind of talk you hear from a high schooler. "Miller sure looks like he's having fun", "actors are all pretty good". Is this the quote you select to include in the article to represent the critical reception it received. Seriously?! If I needed to hear this I would call my 14 year old cousin and ask. Seriously though, it's been over a week. Why is this still a quote that's included in the Wikipedia article? Is no one bothering? This is not a review of the film, nor is this quote even remotely helpful to understand the "critical reception" received by the film. Inclusion of this quote is absolutely ridiculous.
How someone thought that it's logical to include this quote in the Wikipedia article to describe the "critical" reception the film received is beyond me. 112.110.76.41 ( talk) 16:58, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
I think referring to Wonder Woman as "Prince" is both ridiculous and ambiguous, because people are bound to think of Prince before realizing it's the rarely used last name of Wonder Woman's human identity (plus Aquaman is an actual prince). She's referred to as "Diana" throughout all the movie. Kumagoro-42 ( talk) 13:29, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Did Joss Whedon "write the screenplay" that Snyder used, or was he given a screenplay credit in placed of a co-director credit even though what he actually did was much more "directing" than "writing"? Our first paragraph currently cites the "official" credits as fact, but the second paragraph very strongly implies otherwise. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 07:20, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
the film is directed by Zack Snyder with a screenplay by ... Joss Whedonis definitely not accurate to the reality of the situation and is not technically supported by the film credits, which don't contradict the reality of the situation. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 20:48, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
which means that they contributed separately and not togetherYes, and our article -- or at least the first paragraph -- implies they did so together.
Are you arguing that somehow that needs to be in the first couple of sentences?No. Please don't put words in my mouth. Technically, MOS:FILM says
The first paragraph of the lead section should also identify the director and the star or stars of the film. If any writers or producers are well-known, they can also be identified in the paragraph.Whedon is definitely well-known, but I don't know if the same could be said of Terrio; certainly Whedon is much better known than Terrio. My solution would be to cut the writing credits from the opening paragraph entirely and add them to the second paragraph where they can be appropriately nuanced (and, frankly, where a couple more blue links would not look quite so messy). Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 21:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
According to this link, it will be available on DVD in March, with dates for digital release in February. Since there are requests to protect this page, I will leave it up to someone else to add this info. But here's the link: https://www.dvdsreleasedates.com/movies/5978/Justice-League-2017.html Aidensdaddy2k9 ( talk) 00:58, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Most of the article's I've read place the film's break even point at somewhere between $700 and $750 million. However, this page ( http://deadline.com/2017/11/justice-league-opening-weekend-box-office-lower-thor-ragnarok-wonder-the-star-1202211094/) contains the cryptic statement that "if the film clears $700M-$750M global, after ancillaries, it would profit, but a breakeven scenario exists in the high $600M global B.O. range which is where this Snyder opus is bound to final." This confuses me. By definition, if a film exceeds its break-even point, it turns a profit. So how can Justice League require somewhere in the $600 million range to "break even" but more than $700 million to "profit"? Shouldn't the break-even point and the profitability point be the same? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.217.19.207 ( talk) 22:52, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Film studios don't spend $300 million to produce a movie, and another $100 million on global marketing in the hopes of barely going beyond the break even point. They expect to get a return on their investment more than equal to what was spent. Simply managing to break even is colossal failure. WB saying that they consider $700-$750 million to be profitable after ancillaries was just them trying to put a positive spin on what they expected to be a bad situation. As it turned out, the box office returns were even worse than they were afraid of. By WB stating that they would make a profit from ancillaries is an incredibly bad sign. That means they're having to include sales of toys, t-shirts, lunchboxes, etc. Movies are supposed to drive toy sales as an extra stream of income, not rely upon them to make up for box office losses. 2600:6C56:6500:B0:58B8:76E4:2328:F893 ( talk) 02:47, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Can someone erase the title "Box Office Bomb" part? Justice League made its budget back but the loss comes from the expensive marketing campaign this you cant call it a bomb. Zomgrose ( talk) 03:23, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi @ Bignole: For others, I added familiar superhero names, such as "Batman" and "Aquaman", in parentheses to the Plot section. Bignole reverted my changes with the note: unnecessary, we have a cast list that has them, plus if they aren't used in the film we don't use them.
I have two demurrals.
First, are you saying that the superhero names aren't used at all in the film? That no where in the movie is "Batman" or "Flash" ever mentioned? But Superman is mentioned (???), at least his death: the article says "mankind is in mourning over Superman". And as long as we're using secret identities as names, shouldn't it be Diana Prince rather than Diana?
Second, Wikipedia is intended for the average person, not superhero comic fans or butterfly enthusiasts. The average person reading as far as the plot won't recognize the bulk of the secret identities, certainly beyond Clark Kent (and possibly Bruce Wayne). Now you wiki-linked the names, which is good. I'm just wondering: someone who's new to the concept of secret identities, will they ever "get" the references to (say) Authur Curry or Victor Stone? Won't they simply give up, never getting to the Cast section.
My main point is that most people reading the article won't understand that Wayne and Allen and Stone are superheros, not average civilians. And isn't that the main purpose of the movie?
Your thoughts? -- RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 17:34, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Again, because the plot is written based on what's on the screen, not based on what you know personally as a fan. If you watch the film, they never call Barry "the Flash", they just call him Barry. Arthur is just Arthur and Victor is just Victor. Even Diana is just Diana. Victor calls Clark "Superman", and he is known in the world as "Superman". Batman is called Batman, and is known in that world as Batman. The same is not true (as of right now) for any of those others. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:32, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Just a comment. This article (and many like it) are written as if the reader is familiar with the DCEU. In my opinion, the average reader is not even aware of the ins and outs of the DCU and may not be cognizant of many the concepts of a shared universe.
For example, Bignole reverted the change of metahuman to superhero alter-egos in the Plot section because the characters aren't superheroes as yet (and therefore don't have alter egos). That is well and good if you accept the DCEU timeline. But we, as Wikipedia editors, are supposed to deal with the real timeline, out here in the real world. Not some made up timeline (DCEU) which is a version of the another made up timeline (DCU) which is a generational descendent of the Justice League/Society in the Golden Age of Comic Books (see All Star Comics #3, 1940).
We can't say:
Maybe we can put a banner in the front of the Plot section that says something like:
Or even:
It's just if we don't provide some connection between the Plot Section and "Batman and Wonder Woman recruit The Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg" in the lead, you're going to have a whole bunch of confused readers. -- RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 05:05, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
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I have created an intial draft for a page of Justice League Zack Snyder's cut, here's it's link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Justice_League:_Zack_Snyder%27s_Cut?markasread=159444860&markasreadwiki=enwiki
However, it has been rejected for the mentioned reasons, and suggested to be included in the main page of Justice League (film) rather than being in a separate page of itself, however the page should be accepted as a separate page for several reasons:
- The main Justice League page is protected.
- This is an intial page, and it's planned to be expanded in the future, since there's alot of ongoing information about the cut; it's history and confirmed differences from the theatrical cut, for example.
-The search for Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League is trending, since it's confirmed by the director himself, therefore, there's a potential release for this cut in the future.
-The cut is speculated to be completely different movie from the theatrical cut - similar to Richard Donner cut of Superman II, which has it's own page on Wikipedia - for several reasons: -The cut uses different soundtrack, visual effects and tone (similar to those seen in first Justice League trailer, before the departure of Zack Snyder). -Several scenes are completely reshooted by director Joss Whedon (rather than Zack Snyder). -The cut has different length. -Several characters made an appearance in the cut, but did not appear in the theatrical cut (most notably: Darksied), additionally, the cut uses completely different design for the main vilain Steppenwolf. Snake Fisher ( talk) 17:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Perfect example is Richard Donner cut of Superman II, it's not just a cut, but rather, it's a completely different film. Due to confirmation of this cut by the director himself, there's so much people wondering about it, any brief information will help, and Wikipedia should provide the information people need.
Please, I have worked hard on the page, I will appreciate it being accepted, there's so much information that I wanted to expand in that page, but it would take much time. At the meantime, a brief information about the cut is sufficient, more to come in the future.
Furthermore, Zack Snyder's Cut is not mentioned in the main page of Justice League (film) Snake Fisher ( talk)
Some of these discussions could be archived. DCBVS ( talk) 16:57, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
https://screenrant.com/justice-league-movie-snyder-cut-wikipedia-controversy/
I don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but apparently the Snyder cult doesn't like what the article has to say about the Snyder Cut. The Snyder Cut Twitter is now urging all fans to create accounts and change the article in their favour.
Yeah, this is bad. Expect a flood of single-purpose accounts and POV-based WP:COI editing very soon. I'm about to alert WP:ANI of this nonsense. Bignole, you probably want to see this. Dark Knight 2149 16:42, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
The real bodget is 600m Mohamadwolf ( talk) 18:45, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Snyder cut section has som serious bias issues. One the video he released isn't proof of a cut, anyone could have dressed that up. Two everyone else on the production says there is no cut, who would be in the know to say so. But that isn't covered in the section. Like https://www.geekfeed.com/justice-league-vfx-artist-says-no-snyder-cut/ That this troll campaign has spread to wikileaks and wikileaks has allowed it is really sad. 96.31.190.97 ( talk) 23:41, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
So, is Julian Lewis Jones actually confirmed to be playing the Green Lantern, Abin Sur, or did somebody just put that on here as a wild guess? - DCTrinity ( talk) 1:38, 2 February 2017
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Justice League (2017 movi). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 17#Justice League (2017 movi) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. TheAwesome Hwyh 17:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
While Box Office Pro is saying JL will open to $150M in it's opening weekend, Deadline is saying JL will open to $110-120M in it's opening weekend: http://deadline.com/2017/10/ben-affleck-justice-league-gal-gadot-box-office-projection-1202195005/