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I have add it Wonder Woman, Green Lantern/Hal Jordan, Martain Manhunter & Flash because I saw them in a trailer on youtube while explaining Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths. -- Hasbro sp 04:10, 8 october 2009 (UTC)
I changed Earth 2 to Earth 3, because technically, the CSA is based on the villinous alternates of the comics, and they are from Earth 3 Green Herring ( talk) 20:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
No offense, but saying that the alter egos of the CSA is speculation is wrong. It is fact. Read "JLA: Earth 2" or any of the other stuff about the CSA and you'd learn that yes, Owlman is Thomas Wayne, Super Woman on her world does go by "Lois Lane", and despite the different origin Ultraman is called Clark Kent. Anicomicgeek ( talk) 00:59, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Who provides the voice for the character Olympiad, who is the evil version of Wonder Woman? Artemisboy ( talk) 22:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Superwoman is indeed a Mary Marvel analogue. Her three main "Made Men" are the lieutenant Marvels (note that their costumes all match). Later in the story, Wonder Woman fights "Olympiad," intended as a Wonder Woman analogue. http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=10558994#post10558994
So who knows what her alter ego is (the movie doesn't make it clear), but the "counterpart" doesn't seem to be in dispute. In addition, I think JLA Earth 2 isn't really relevant here, any more than any Green Lantern comic is relevant to the Justice League cartoon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.96.247 ( talk) 02:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Superwoman is the analogue to Wonder Woman since she was created, but if you want to base your opinion on a "forum source" or independent research go ahead; I don't want to get into an edit war. For this particular cartoon, I would agree that the writer (who appears as the forum source) took serious license with whom Superwoman is supposed to represent and Mary Marvel does make the best sense for this cartoon only. 76.199.1.32 ( talk)Eric Ferguson —Preceding undated comment added 01:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC).
Nobody's arguing that McDuffie's word goes any farther than this particular script. As it does regard this script, though, it's pretty cut and dried - Superwoman is Mary Marvel (ish), and Olympiad is as close as the Crime Syndicate comes to having a Wonder Woman. ShaleZero ( talk) 00:16, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I've removed the following table:
Counterparts
CSA Earth JLA Earth Ultraman Superman Owlman Batman Superwoman Mary Marvel [1] Johnny Quick The Flash Power Ring Green Lantern J'edd J'arkus Martian Manhunter Angelique Hawkgirl Captain Super Captain Marvel Captain Super Jr. Captain Marvel Jr. Uncle Super Uncle Marvel Jester Joker Red Archer Green Arrow Scream Queen Black Canary Mr. Action Jimmy Olsen Extruded Man Elongated Man Black Power Black Lightning Warwolf Lobo Gypsy Woman Gypsy Vamp Vixen Model Citizen Looker Aurora Halo Sai Katana Breakdance Vibe Olympia Wonder Woman [1] President Slade Wilson Deathstroke Rose Wilson Ravager ( Rose Wilson) Lex Luthor Lex Luthor
While there might be solid citations connecting one to another, there appears to wholesale extrapolation going on. I don't oppose a revised list being re-added that cites each counterparting. It was removed because I don't want to cock up the table by purging every single character that doesn't have a citable reference. Understand that we cannot add them unless we have a citation noting them as counterparts.
I also removed the linking to Captain Super, Cap Super Jr. and Uncle Super to the Captains Marvel, as there exists no citable connection for the comparison. -
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05:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
F.Y.I. Since this is a talk page and all I can say that the DC Wikia page has a great page that details all the characters from the film regardless of their significance portrayed. This is not a ref or source which is why I'm putting that info Here, and not There. DC Wikia - Crisis on Two Earths (all characters) D-MF-L ( talk) 17:10, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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Justice Underground
Why is the Lex Luthor's Justice League referred to in this article as the Justice Underground? I know it was that way in the Kurt Busiek arc of Syndicate Rules, but in this film Luthor's group was specifically referred to as a Justice League. (Even the table had J.L. initials on it, but J.U.) I am just curious if this is a case of wiki editing that is done by people who haven't seen the movie? 67.190.43.65 ( talk) 02:40, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
I haven't heard of Doombeing a sequel to Crisit; are there any references of this being the case? I know the DCU animated universe, but each entrant isn't a sequel to the entrants before it. I'll wait before either purging the subsection, and incorporating it into the Doom article instead, sans the unreferenced 'sequel' characterization. - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 22:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
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I have add it Wonder Woman, Green Lantern/Hal Jordan, Martain Manhunter & Flash because I saw them in a trailer on youtube while explaining Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths. -- Hasbro sp 04:10, 8 october 2009 (UTC)
I changed Earth 2 to Earth 3, because technically, the CSA is based on the villinous alternates of the comics, and they are from Earth 3 Green Herring ( talk) 20:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
No offense, but saying that the alter egos of the CSA is speculation is wrong. It is fact. Read "JLA: Earth 2" or any of the other stuff about the CSA and you'd learn that yes, Owlman is Thomas Wayne, Super Woman on her world does go by "Lois Lane", and despite the different origin Ultraman is called Clark Kent. Anicomicgeek ( talk) 00:59, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Who provides the voice for the character Olympiad, who is the evil version of Wonder Woman? Artemisboy ( talk) 22:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Superwoman is indeed a Mary Marvel analogue. Her three main "Made Men" are the lieutenant Marvels (note that their costumes all match). Later in the story, Wonder Woman fights "Olympiad," intended as a Wonder Woman analogue. http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=10558994#post10558994
So who knows what her alter ego is (the movie doesn't make it clear), but the "counterpart" doesn't seem to be in dispute. In addition, I think JLA Earth 2 isn't really relevant here, any more than any Green Lantern comic is relevant to the Justice League cartoon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.96.247 ( talk) 02:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Superwoman is the analogue to Wonder Woman since she was created, but if you want to base your opinion on a "forum source" or independent research go ahead; I don't want to get into an edit war. For this particular cartoon, I would agree that the writer (who appears as the forum source) took serious license with whom Superwoman is supposed to represent and Mary Marvel does make the best sense for this cartoon only. 76.199.1.32 ( talk)Eric Ferguson —Preceding undated comment added 01:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC).
Nobody's arguing that McDuffie's word goes any farther than this particular script. As it does regard this script, though, it's pretty cut and dried - Superwoman is Mary Marvel (ish), and Olympiad is as close as the Crime Syndicate comes to having a Wonder Woman. ShaleZero ( talk) 00:16, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I've removed the following table:
Counterparts
CSA Earth JLA Earth Ultraman Superman Owlman Batman Superwoman Mary Marvel [1] Johnny Quick The Flash Power Ring Green Lantern J'edd J'arkus Martian Manhunter Angelique Hawkgirl Captain Super Captain Marvel Captain Super Jr. Captain Marvel Jr. Uncle Super Uncle Marvel Jester Joker Red Archer Green Arrow Scream Queen Black Canary Mr. Action Jimmy Olsen Extruded Man Elongated Man Black Power Black Lightning Warwolf Lobo Gypsy Woman Gypsy Vamp Vixen Model Citizen Looker Aurora Halo Sai Katana Breakdance Vibe Olympia Wonder Woman [1] President Slade Wilson Deathstroke Rose Wilson Ravager ( Rose Wilson) Lex Luthor Lex Luthor
While there might be solid citations connecting one to another, there appears to wholesale extrapolation going on. I don't oppose a revised list being re-added that cites each counterparting. It was removed because I don't want to cock up the table by purging every single character that doesn't have a citable reference. Understand that we cannot add them unless we have a citation noting them as counterparts.
I also removed the linking to Captain Super, Cap Super Jr. and Uncle Super to the Captains Marvel, as there exists no citable connection for the comparison. -
207.181.235.214 (
talk)
05:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
F.Y.I. Since this is a talk page and all I can say that the DC Wikia page has a great page that details all the characters from the film regardless of their significance portrayed. This is not a ref or source which is why I'm putting that info Here, and not There. DC Wikia - Crisis on Two Earths (all characters) D-MF-L ( talk) 17:10, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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Justice Underground
Why is the Lex Luthor's Justice League referred to in this article as the Justice Underground? I know it was that way in the Kurt Busiek arc of Syndicate Rules, but in this film Luthor's group was specifically referred to as a Justice League. (Even the table had J.L. initials on it, but J.U.) I am just curious if this is a case of wiki editing that is done by people who haven't seen the movie? 67.190.43.65 ( talk) 02:40, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
I haven't heard of Doombeing a sequel to Crisit; are there any references of this being the case? I know the DCU animated universe, but each entrant isn't a sequel to the entrants before it. I'll wait before either purging the subsection, and incorporating it into the Doom article instead, sans the unreferenced 'sequel' characterization. - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 22:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)