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Do you think it's appropriate to have Julius Pokorny in Category:Czech linguists and have {{ Czech-bio-stub}} on his page? (I know you aren't the one who put them there, but you didn't remove them either.) I'm sure he would not have considered himself Czech just by virtue of being born in Prague, any more than my father would have considered himself Burmese just by virtue of being born in Rangoon. I'm rather tempted to changes these to Category:Austrian linguists and {{ Austria-bio-stub}}, but I'm not sure to what extent he would have considered himself Austrian (rather than German), either. I assume he had Austrian citizenship until all Austrians became German citizens at the Anschluss, but I have no idea what citizenship he had when he remained in Zürich after the war. What do you think? Angr ( talk • contribs) 07:11, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I myself have the impression that Pokorny is Czech, and I remember picking up the informatiion from the "Scéla" ( http://mujweb.cz/enelen/) site. The relevant content might now be offline though (I found one page archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20120417214116/http://www.volny.cz/enelen/pok1.htm).
Given that there are some significant sources such as this website (cited by severeal .ac sites and papers), and an essay by a Celtic scholar named William Sayers [1], I dont think it is appropriate to censor his designation as "Czech", and there is certainly no problem with categorizing this personage as Category:Czech linguists (renamed Category:Linguists from the Czech Republic).
Now, I do get the sense that sources like Ó Dochartaigh's biography do avoid referring to Pokorny as Czech. I think the neutral solution is to use the hyphenated "Austrian-Czech Celticist" as employed in Bernard Mees (1996), "Linguistics and Nationalism: Henry d'Arbois de Jubainville and Cultural Hegemony", Melbourne Historical Journal 25 [2] and "Austro-Czech Celticist" in a book entitled The Science of the Swastika, p. 177 [3]. -- Kiyoweap ( talk) 15:06, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
I belive is worth to list languages this linguist know or had idea of. Nasz 02:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Rashers - if Pokorny did not use the Irish (presumably entry) visa in his passport how did he leave Germany and get into Switzerland?
'Escape' would seem the wrong word if he did not use any subterfuge. 86.156.113.180 ( talk) 15:40, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
But Switzerland would surely not let him enter without the Irish visa (presumably he had no exit pass)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.113.180 ( talk) 18:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
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Do you think it's appropriate to have Julius Pokorny in Category:Czech linguists and have {{ Czech-bio-stub}} on his page? (I know you aren't the one who put them there, but you didn't remove them either.) I'm sure he would not have considered himself Czech just by virtue of being born in Prague, any more than my father would have considered himself Burmese just by virtue of being born in Rangoon. I'm rather tempted to changes these to Category:Austrian linguists and {{ Austria-bio-stub}}, but I'm not sure to what extent he would have considered himself Austrian (rather than German), either. I assume he had Austrian citizenship until all Austrians became German citizens at the Anschluss, but I have no idea what citizenship he had when he remained in Zürich after the war. What do you think? Angr ( talk • contribs) 07:11, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I myself have the impression that Pokorny is Czech, and I remember picking up the informatiion from the "Scéla" ( http://mujweb.cz/enelen/) site. The relevant content might now be offline though (I found one page archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20120417214116/http://www.volny.cz/enelen/pok1.htm).
Given that there are some significant sources such as this website (cited by severeal .ac sites and papers), and an essay by a Celtic scholar named William Sayers [1], I dont think it is appropriate to censor his designation as "Czech", and there is certainly no problem with categorizing this personage as Category:Czech linguists (renamed Category:Linguists from the Czech Republic).
Now, I do get the sense that sources like Ó Dochartaigh's biography do avoid referring to Pokorny as Czech. I think the neutral solution is to use the hyphenated "Austrian-Czech Celticist" as employed in Bernard Mees (1996), "Linguistics and Nationalism: Henry d'Arbois de Jubainville and Cultural Hegemony", Melbourne Historical Journal 25 [2] and "Austro-Czech Celticist" in a book entitled The Science of the Swastika, p. 177 [3]. -- Kiyoweap ( talk) 15:06, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
I belive is worth to list languages this linguist know or had idea of. Nasz 02:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Rashers - if Pokorny did not use the Irish (presumably entry) visa in his passport how did he leave Germany and get into Switzerland?
'Escape' would seem the wrong word if he did not use any subterfuge. 86.156.113.180 ( talk) 15:40, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
But Switzerland would surely not let him enter without the Irish visa (presumably he had no exit pass)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.113.180 ( talk) 18:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
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