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This is very importent —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.162.204 ( talk) 06:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Would this fella actually be a descendant of the old Julii who were the first Emperors?-- Codenamecuckoo 09:34, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- No. His true past( grand parents and after that ) is unknown, but all legal family heirs of old Julii has been dead in AD 69. Oldest Roman family which has survived lost of crown is Flavian Dynasty. Blood heirs of Nepos has survived until around AD 530. ? rjecina
I can't find the source for this, but I thought I read somewhere that Nepos was the nephew and successor of Marcellinus (general), commander of the field army in Illyricum. — Abou 20:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This article says that Julius confronted Glycerius in Ravenna, while the page for Glycerius says that this happened in Ostia (or perhaps Rome). Ravenna makes more sense, as it is much closer to Dalmatia than Ostia is, but I don't know what actually happened. Does anyone know? Molinari 17:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Why is Orestes descibed as a "Germanic tribesman"? Both his parents were Romans. And even if he were part German, he must have been less so than the half-Frankish Theodosius III, so it wouldn't have been an obstacle to his claiming the purple. — Abou 22:37, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
How ded he die. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathiasceasar ( talk • contribs) 06:16, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
This article need some tightning up. I don't think direct latin quotations from the sources is appropriate for Wikipedia. If no one objects I'll throw them out and put in a standard reference section. Fornadan (t) 13:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
At he very least could the "Rule" and "reign" sections be redacted. 90.200.32.233 15:55, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Me Linkin Park nepos wrote this hole paign me, i wasen't a member, so thats the reason you don't se me. Julius Nepos rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linkin Park nepos ( talk • contribs) 18:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
He could actually be a family member of the Julii because Julien familie didn't die out, the Claudius Familiy did. It's Recordet to be a Julien that became Prator in 267.
I just read that it was Ovida who killed Nepos.-- Dojarca ( talk) 14:52, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Category:Murdered Roman emperors is itself a category within Category:Roman emperors. — Robert Greer ( talk) 11:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
One user keep adding an "Overview" section to this article with about the same length as the rest of the text. Wikipedia articles don't have "Overview" sections, they have a lead of a few paragraphs (without any section header) summarizing the article and then the main body going into more detail, there's no intermediate "Overview" level. This is the common layout across Wikipedia which we all most follow - single users don't get to make up their own. The "Overview" needs to be merged into the rest of the article, otherwise the result is a non-standard article with lots of duplicated, and possibly contradictory, material - all very confusing to the reader Fornadan (t) 20:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
since there has already be another "exchange" of edits, in the interest of peace, i'm offering to drop the section header; you're wrong, but i really don't care if it has a header or not.
for the merits of the lead section as a lead section, i refer you to
Wikipedia:Lead_section#Provide_an_accessible_overview
Lx 121 (
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(edit conflict)::::Actually I mentioned repeatedly WP:V and WP:RS but you just don't seem to have an idea what this even means, so please follow the relevant links. Regard why the overview is absurd, Fornadan's already said it all. Also I didn't contact Fornadan: I've been around here 6 years and I know hundreds of editors, but I don't think I've ever met Fornadan. But now that you mentioned it, contacting somebody, or more precisely I'll contact the relevant wikiproject, that is Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome. Aldux ( talk) 21:49, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
I appreciate that you are now at least trying to get it; and having a good and solid overview where it should stay, is OK. But per WP:LEAD the lead is going to be trimmed to a maximum of three paragraphs, as it says that articles long "15,000–30,000 characters" (medium length) should have "Two or three paragraphs". Also, and I think this should be pretty obvious, the lead must summarize and not contradict the main article, and this is why leads don't have to be sourced: all statements made in the lead must be backed up by references in the main text. Anyways, I appreciate that you haven't attempted to put the phantomatic Domain of Moor and that Syagrius minted coins in his names. That said I will work on the lead after I've finished completing the expansion and referencing of the rest of the other sections. Aldux ( talk) 22:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict)
"2nd reign", issued by odoacer -- http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=52935'\ general list of nepos coins (non-comprehensive) http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?search=similar%3A239104&view_mode=1#5
Lx 121 ( talk) 22:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
question: if "nepos" is supposedly an agnomen j.n. gained from marriage to the emperor's niece(-in-law?), then are all these other "nepo-" names being derived from that? including the ones for persons that predeceased him? also, if j.n. was the son of marcellinus' sister, that makes him twice nepos to notable persons.
i'm assuming all this has been dealt with by historians, but what is the thinking on it?
(& perhaps it should be covered in the article?)
Lx 121 ( talk) 12:34, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
The intro section here is far too long. As per WP:LEAD, the "lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article," and for an article of this length, the lead should not be more than two or three paragraphs. Here the intro contains detail that isn't even present in the body. In particular, detail about Orestes, Romulus, Odoacer, and the empire should be summarized and the detail moved into the body. I'll work on this when I have time, if someone else does not address it sooner. Laszlo Panaflex ( talk) 06:15, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
This section barely mentions Nepos. It seems to be in the wrong article. Can we write about Nepos's post-imperial life? 155.213.224.59 ( talk) 13:52, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Propose to add citations to make the article more verifiable and to add any information from the source relating to the page. [1] Kerr97 ( talk) 17:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)Kerr97 18:23 10 October 2019 Kerr97 ( talk) 17:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
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This is very importent —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.162.204 ( talk) 06:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Would this fella actually be a descendant of the old Julii who were the first Emperors?-- Codenamecuckoo 09:34, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- No. His true past( grand parents and after that ) is unknown, but all legal family heirs of old Julii has been dead in AD 69. Oldest Roman family which has survived lost of crown is Flavian Dynasty. Blood heirs of Nepos has survived until around AD 530. ? rjecina
I can't find the source for this, but I thought I read somewhere that Nepos was the nephew and successor of Marcellinus (general), commander of the field army in Illyricum. — Abou 20:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This article says that Julius confronted Glycerius in Ravenna, while the page for Glycerius says that this happened in Ostia (or perhaps Rome). Ravenna makes more sense, as it is much closer to Dalmatia than Ostia is, but I don't know what actually happened. Does anyone know? Molinari 17:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Why is Orestes descibed as a "Germanic tribesman"? Both his parents were Romans. And even if he were part German, he must have been less so than the half-Frankish Theodosius III, so it wouldn't have been an obstacle to his claiming the purple. — Abou 22:37, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
How ded he die. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathiasceasar ( talk • contribs) 06:16, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
This article need some tightning up. I don't think direct latin quotations from the sources is appropriate for Wikipedia. If no one objects I'll throw them out and put in a standard reference section. Fornadan (t) 13:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
At he very least could the "Rule" and "reign" sections be redacted. 90.200.32.233 15:55, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Me Linkin Park nepos wrote this hole paign me, i wasen't a member, so thats the reason you don't se me. Julius Nepos rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linkin Park nepos ( talk • contribs) 18:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
He could actually be a family member of the Julii because Julien familie didn't die out, the Claudius Familiy did. It's Recordet to be a Julien that became Prator in 267.
I just read that it was Ovida who killed Nepos.-- Dojarca ( talk) 14:52, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Category:Murdered Roman emperors is itself a category within Category:Roman emperors. — Robert Greer ( talk) 11:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
One user keep adding an "Overview" section to this article with about the same length as the rest of the text. Wikipedia articles don't have "Overview" sections, they have a lead of a few paragraphs (without any section header) summarizing the article and then the main body going into more detail, there's no intermediate "Overview" level. This is the common layout across Wikipedia which we all most follow - single users don't get to make up their own. The "Overview" needs to be merged into the rest of the article, otherwise the result is a non-standard article with lots of duplicated, and possibly contradictory, material - all very confusing to the reader Fornadan (t) 20:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
since there has already be another "exchange" of edits, in the interest of peace, i'm offering to drop the section header; you're wrong, but i really don't care if it has a header or not.
for the merits of the lead section as a lead section, i refer you to
Wikipedia:Lead_section#Provide_an_accessible_overview
Lx 121 (
talk)
21:22, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict)::::Actually I mentioned repeatedly WP:V and WP:RS but you just don't seem to have an idea what this even means, so please follow the relevant links. Regard why the overview is absurd, Fornadan's already said it all. Also I didn't contact Fornadan: I've been around here 6 years and I know hundreds of editors, but I don't think I've ever met Fornadan. But now that you mentioned it, contacting somebody, or more precisely I'll contact the relevant wikiproject, that is Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome. Aldux ( talk) 21:49, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
I appreciate that you are now at least trying to get it; and having a good and solid overview where it should stay, is OK. But per WP:LEAD the lead is going to be trimmed to a maximum of three paragraphs, as it says that articles long "15,000–30,000 characters" (medium length) should have "Two or three paragraphs". Also, and I think this should be pretty obvious, the lead must summarize and not contradict the main article, and this is why leads don't have to be sourced: all statements made in the lead must be backed up by references in the main text. Anyways, I appreciate that you haven't attempted to put the phantomatic Domain of Moor and that Syagrius minted coins in his names. That said I will work on the lead after I've finished completing the expansion and referencing of the rest of the other sections. Aldux ( talk) 22:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict)
"2nd reign", issued by odoacer -- http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=52935'\ general list of nepos coins (non-comprehensive) http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?search=similar%3A239104&view_mode=1#5
Lx 121 ( talk) 22:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
question: if "nepos" is supposedly an agnomen j.n. gained from marriage to the emperor's niece(-in-law?), then are all these other "nepo-" names being derived from that? including the ones for persons that predeceased him? also, if j.n. was the son of marcellinus' sister, that makes him twice nepos to notable persons.
i'm assuming all this has been dealt with by historians, but what is the thinking on it?
(& perhaps it should be covered in the article?)
Lx 121 ( talk) 12:34, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
The intro section here is far too long. As per WP:LEAD, the "lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article," and for an article of this length, the lead should not be more than two or three paragraphs. Here the intro contains detail that isn't even present in the body. In particular, detail about Orestes, Romulus, Odoacer, and the empire should be summarized and the detail moved into the body. I'll work on this when I have time, if someone else does not address it sooner. Laszlo Panaflex ( talk) 06:15, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
This section barely mentions Nepos. It seems to be in the wrong article. Can we write about Nepos's post-imperial life? 155.213.224.59 ( talk) 13:52, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Propose to add citations to make the article more verifiable and to add any information from the source relating to the page. [1] Kerr97 ( talk) 17:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)Kerr97 18:23 10 October 2019 Kerr97 ( talk) 17:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Iazyges ( talk · contribs) 18:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Will start soon. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 18:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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GA Criteria:
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Please note that almost all of these are suggestions, and can be implemented or ignored at your discretion. Any changes I deem necessary for the article to pass GA standards I will bold.