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This article is historically important to the history of both Tasmania and Australia. I have spent many hours making this page and would appreciate feedback and help on establishing this article. Rather then the crude deletion that has been proposed by the cynical, arrogant and pessimistic wanka that nominated this article for deletion. As mentioned before i would greatly appreciate any help and advice, and also more time in establishing this historically important article. I would also propose that this person would actually read the article and suggest some helpful tips. Joseph Potaski was a influential person in the early colony of Van Diemans land, and his character also reflects the attitude of many other ex convicts of his time. Potaski is immortalised in both Hobart's pioneer park and the local museum. His decendents have also published two books on him as have many historians. Potaski represents the begining of the polish community in Australia. It would be morally wrong if this wanka was to succeed with the deletion of this article. Thanks.
Thanks for the info. i really appreciate your help, i was also wondering if you could help me present the references in a suitable manner. I must also apologise for my language, as it has offended you. However i must say that i wasn't being derogatory nor was my language repeating or egregious personal attacks. As i only just found out you were the one that nominated this article for deletion. I must also say that it was not necessary for you to nominate it for deletion, as it was only created last night. I would've much appreciated a constructive comment. I am however very grateful for your contribution and your subtraction of the deletion. And appreciate your help in making this article better. Thanks again:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.116.189 ( talk) 10:57, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Most of the text from this article appears to copied from the first "reference" [1]. Now, that is either plagiarism, a copyright violation or a conflict of interest on behalf of the author. BTW the deletion tag was entirely appropriate and unless some pretty substantial changes are made to the article soon, I'll put it back. I would refer contributors to wp:plagiarism, wp:copyvio, wp:v, wp:note and wp:rs. As this appears to be an author's first article, an idea might be to take the article out of mainspace and put it in their userspace and build the article there, seeking assistance from others at WP:AWNB or WP:WPBIO. I would also remind respondents to remain civil and no personal attacks while this is sorted out. Thanks. Bleakcomb ( talk) 03:45, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
I also believe this article is historically significant to both Tasmania's and Australia's heritage, I will work with the people involved to help improve this piece, over the coming weeks. I must however applaud the effort made by the people involved in creating this article, as i am a decendant of Joseph Potaski, and i was involved in writing the Potaski family history. During which i learnt how this family reflected the attitudes of colonial Tasmania, and the hardships and difficulties faced by the convict families. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian3280 ( talk • contribs) 04:07, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
I've added grammar to the multiple issues template. Here's a sentence that appears early on in the article:
His family in the gravestone on his burial place in St. David’s churchyard in central Hobart at the head of Salamanca Place suggest he was born in 1774 whereas other, perhaps stronger, evidence from the English records suggests it is 1762, perhaps 1764.
Sentences like these need to be reworded. It's too long, lacks punctuation at points, and though semantically you can understand it, it is grammatically confusing. I'm not an expert on the subject so don't want to edit the sentences and have them lose their meaning, so I have added the grammar tag. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 22:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
In case they are considered off topic for the deletion discussion, I'm posting the suggestions I made here:
Also, a question: Why does he have an officeholder infobox? I can't see anything that says he held office?
Anyway, those are my suggestions for the article. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 01:35, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions anoldtreek, i'll try to fix it soon. I must also appolgise, when making the box for Joseph Potaski, i reffered to my great grandfather's box, labour premier TJ Ryan. And must have accidently copyed it. I'll fix it now. ( 143.238.0.177 ( talk) 09:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC))
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This article is historically important to the history of both Tasmania and Australia. I have spent many hours making this page and would appreciate feedback and help on establishing this article. Rather then the crude deletion that has been proposed by the cynical, arrogant and pessimistic wanka that nominated this article for deletion. As mentioned before i would greatly appreciate any help and advice, and also more time in establishing this historically important article. I would also propose that this person would actually read the article and suggest some helpful tips. Joseph Potaski was a influential person in the early colony of Van Diemans land, and his character also reflects the attitude of many other ex convicts of his time. Potaski is immortalised in both Hobart's pioneer park and the local museum. His decendents have also published two books on him as have many historians. Potaski represents the begining of the polish community in Australia. It would be morally wrong if this wanka was to succeed with the deletion of this article. Thanks.
Thanks for the info. i really appreciate your help, i was also wondering if you could help me present the references in a suitable manner. I must also apologise for my language, as it has offended you. However i must say that i wasn't being derogatory nor was my language repeating or egregious personal attacks. As i only just found out you were the one that nominated this article for deletion. I must also say that it was not necessary for you to nominate it for deletion, as it was only created last night. I would've much appreciated a constructive comment. I am however very grateful for your contribution and your subtraction of the deletion. And appreciate your help in making this article better. Thanks again:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.116.189 ( talk) 10:57, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Most of the text from this article appears to copied from the first "reference" [1]. Now, that is either plagiarism, a copyright violation or a conflict of interest on behalf of the author. BTW the deletion tag was entirely appropriate and unless some pretty substantial changes are made to the article soon, I'll put it back. I would refer contributors to wp:plagiarism, wp:copyvio, wp:v, wp:note and wp:rs. As this appears to be an author's first article, an idea might be to take the article out of mainspace and put it in their userspace and build the article there, seeking assistance from others at WP:AWNB or WP:WPBIO. I would also remind respondents to remain civil and no personal attacks while this is sorted out. Thanks. Bleakcomb ( talk) 03:45, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
I also believe this article is historically significant to both Tasmania's and Australia's heritage, I will work with the people involved to help improve this piece, over the coming weeks. I must however applaud the effort made by the people involved in creating this article, as i am a decendant of Joseph Potaski, and i was involved in writing the Potaski family history. During which i learnt how this family reflected the attitudes of colonial Tasmania, and the hardships and difficulties faced by the convict families. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian3280 ( talk • contribs) 04:07, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
I've added grammar to the multiple issues template. Here's a sentence that appears early on in the article:
His family in the gravestone on his burial place in St. David’s churchyard in central Hobart at the head of Salamanca Place suggest he was born in 1774 whereas other, perhaps stronger, evidence from the English records suggests it is 1762, perhaps 1764.
Sentences like these need to be reworded. It's too long, lacks punctuation at points, and though semantically you can understand it, it is grammatically confusing. I'm not an expert on the subject so don't want to edit the sentences and have them lose their meaning, so I have added the grammar tag. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 22:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
In case they are considered off topic for the deletion discussion, I'm posting the suggestions I made here:
Also, a question: Why does he have an officeholder infobox? I can't see anything that says he held office?
Anyway, those are my suggestions for the article. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 01:35, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions anoldtreek, i'll try to fix it soon. I must also appolgise, when making the box for Joseph Potaski, i reffered to my great grandfather's box, labour premier TJ Ryan. And must have accidently copyed it. I'll fix it now. ( 143.238.0.177 ( talk) 09:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC))
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