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please update —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.182.1.4 ( talk) 13:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm not from New Jersey, but I believe that Corzine remains Governor until the Governor-Elect (the wikipedia page on Chris Christie lists him as Governor-Eelect) is sworn in as Governor. -- 203.58.0.142 ( talk) 23:45, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm changing it, he definitely will remain Governor until January 19th. -- Wikiperson0202 ( talk) 23:49, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
We've got a potential edit war about how to refelct his status as Governor elect in the info box and succession box. We're having a similar problem with Tim Kaine. Can we discuss here and reach consensus rather than changing back and forth? TMS63112 21:11, 9 November 2005 (UTC) (forgot to sign)
Someone keeps adding, in the section of Marriage and Divorce, a statement that Jon Corzine "got Carla Katz pregnant than forced her to have an abortion." This is, of course, a variant on a vicious, unproven rumor launched against Senator Corzine. If you have proof about this, show it. Since you don't, stop adding it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattweng ( talk • contribs) 04:01, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Donald DiFrancesco and Richard Codey are now officially titled Governor, rather than Acting Governor. [1] — chair lunch dinner™ ( talk)
I moved the paragraph around a bit [2] moving the cut to the Governor's School of New Jersey to the end of the paragraph and removing "one of his most controversial cuts..." that came before it. The reason is because I think most New Jersey residents would agree that his most "controversial" part of his budget has been to raise the sales tax and with regards to cuts there are several cuts to unique programs which have been considered "controversial" and I do not see what is different about this program.-- Jersey Devil 10:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
The breaks are major and pose more risk of death than for hip replaecment where people his age sometimes die. That's the reason Codey asked for prayers. While doctors publicly say they expect him to recover, they also stress how difficult and long it would be. They are downplaying the risk of death in the ensuing surgeries. Please have a doctor or med student with expertise give a cite or referenced idea as to how serious the injuries reported typically are. Thanks. Chivista 20:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Do we need that? I'm wary of PoV blogSPAM showing up here, especially with the recent budget buissiness... 68.39.174.238 01:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Isn't he a Methodist? Also, what template can we use to reflect his Senate service as well? Biruitorul 02:27, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
“Actually,” Corzine said to him finally, with a slightly awkward smile, “I’m a Methodist.” " from here: http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/politics/12194/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.5.79.18 ( talk) 23:45, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I am deleting my own entry since I am slighty deranged adult whose behavior would fit nicely in a second grade class. Besides, doesn't "I'm a loser" have a nice ring to it ?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.197.130.151 ( talk • contribs) 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC).
NBC has just reported his leg was broken and it was a hit-and-run. I'm searching for links now. 71.175.17.80 23:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
MSNBC is reporting that Don Imus is at the Governor's mansion for a meeting with the Rugters University girls. Interesting this happens tonight. Wonder if that can be entered into the article somehow.
ChaseS08 23:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
The Car accident is listed twice in the article, with the second mentioning containing more depth. Someone should clean this up (I would if I had the time).
Tvh2k 14:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Assassination Attempt? Come now, I guess whoever wrote that never tried driving on the NJ turnpike. -cplradar still having log in problems.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, NOT a newspaper. While it's appropriate to include recent and current events in it when applicable, I think that the section on the accident is inappropriately large and contains features that are really not appropriate for an encyclopedia article. I am going to scale it back a little by deleting some material, please feel free to scale it back more. Personally, I think that it would not benefit the article most to delete almost all the material and wait for events to unfold. Details like the particular hospital, doctors name, etc. I think are going way too far. Cazort 16:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
It was reported that he would pay his own medical bills rather than bill taxpayers.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cantonrep.com:8881/printable.php?ID=351027</ref></nowiki<p> I would like to add the above sentence, but the only reference I can find is to a page that I could not accesss this morning. I am a brand-newbie, so can someone tell me if I copied the reference format correctly? Also, can anyone else access the page? I am a New Jersey resident, and I remember this, and have mentioned it to others, but need a documentable reference. Thanks [[User:Sallijane|Sallijane]] ([[User talk:Sallijane|talk]]) 13:21, 24 January 2009 (UTC) : I found a stable link from the Star-Ledger website and added the sentence to the page. For news reports, you can use [[Template:Cite news]], e.g.: :{{cite news |title=Corzine will pay all medical bills, aide says |work=[[The Star-Ledger]] |date=2007-04-27 |accessdate=2009-01-24 |url=http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates/2007/04/corzine_will_pay_all_medical_b.html}} :[[User:Offenbach|Offenbach]] ([[User talk:Offenbach|talk]]) 17:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC) ==News paper reports that driver was getting email while driving== The stories say that the trooper was involved in a sexual affair with the wife of the emailer. [[User:Chivista|Chivista]] 01:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC) :I can't possibly believe that ''both'' of the vehicle's front seat occupants had major lapses of reason when prioritizing their respective activities! But then again, what an inspring a story this may yet turn out to be! Just picture it... :::''The '''state trooper''' was busy dealing with '''pictures on his cell phone''' sent by the husband of the woman with whom he was '''having an affair''' while '''driving 90+ MPH on the interstate''' at the probable behest of the '''Governor''', who, although '''not wearing a seatbelt''', was in an incredible hurry to get to an '''important political summit''' where he was to host a dispute between a '''talkshow host''' and a '''basketball team'''.'' :I'm glad both our elected officials '''and''' our public safety personnel take their positions so seriously and exercise such demonstrably sound judgment, even when it comes down to the little things like prioritizing the activities of the state's highest officeholder or protecting the safety of families with children who are traveling on the state's roadways. I sleep well at night knowing there are people of such caliber within our government who truly have the best interests of the public in their hearts! But I digress... :Information about the driver's alleged use of (and alleged reason for the use of) a mobile phone immediately prior to the crash probably ought to be added to the article (at least eventually, if not right now). Incidentally, is it illegal in New Jersey to use a "non-hands-free" mobile phone while driving? -[[User:Grammaticus Repairo|Grammaticus Repairo]] 05:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC) -So let me get this straight. The speed limit is 65, and even considering that in reality the flow of traffic would have been around 75, what in gods name was the trooper doing going even 15 over that WITH emergency flashing lights on?? It all just dosent make sense to me, and sounds like we are really missing bits and pieces of information. If traffic is moving at ~75 and he was cutting these cars off at ~90 with emergency lights on, (in a 2 lane section of the parkway as well) how could the trooper not be entirely at fault here?.. Any word on him even getting ticketed?? <p>Corzine and staff requested that Corzine be ticketed for not wearing belt, and he was. If you want, I'll find the reference.[[User:Sallijane|Sallijane]] ([[User talk:Sallijane|talk]]) 13:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC) ==Residence Hoboken== Thanks for the reference! [[User:Chivista|Chivista]] 18:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC) ==Wikiproject Chicago?== Why is this article a part of Wikiproject Chicago? Does the fact that he obtained a degree from the University of Chicago (and once worked in a Chicago bank) make him worthy of inclusion? This does not make sense to me... -[[User:Grammaticus Repairo|Grammaticus Repairo]] 20:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC) :This person is of extreme importance to select Chicagoans. More precisely, he is an extremely important member of the [[University of Chicago]] alumni network. Probably, most students in the [[University of Chicago Graduate School of Business|business school]], [[University of Chicago Law School|law school]] [[Harris School of Public Policy Studies|public policy school]] probably aspire to one of his current or past roles. [[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|cont]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]])</small> 15:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC) ::Special pleading. None of the actual phrasing below would include every successful UChicago alumnus, which would be required to include Corzine. Please remove this tag. [[User:Pmanderson|Septentrionalis]] <small>[[User talk:Pmanderson|PMAnderson]]</small> 00:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC) :::Having attended college in a city is not sufficient in and of itself to demonstrate a connection between th individual and that city. I was baffled when the WikiProject Chicago tag popped up here and I still see no reason that it should be retained. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] 01:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC) The arguments for including Jon Corzine in this project, as presented by [[Tony the Tiger]], are simply absurd: ::''"This person is of extreme importance to select Chicagoans."'' So are Socrates, Anna Nicole Smith, and Ernie the Keebler Elf. Given the population of the greater Chicago area, I'd imagine that damn near everyone with a wikipedia entry is "of extreme importance" to '''some''' "select Chicagoan". ::''"More precisely, he is an extremely important member of the University of Chicago alumni network."'' Says whom and using what criteria? Do you have a valid source for this claim? ::''"Probably, most students in the business school, law school public ''[, and/or]'' policy school probably aspire to one of his current or past roles."'' Aside from the sheer absurdity of this claim, the sentence contains the modifier "probably" (twice), essentially rendering everything within the phrase completely meaningless. And if there's a survey out there that substantiates this claim, I'd like to see it. Unless a '''valid''' reason is provided for keeping this page marked as within the scope of your wikiproject, I'm quite sure the tag will continue to be removed. Incidentally, I suspect the 'Priority Scale' chart displayed below is also likely to disappear. -[[User:Grammaticus Repairo|Grammaticus Repairo]] 01:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC) {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Priority Scale}} :::It seems that there is a very serious misunderstanding of what Talkpage project banners are for. A talk page banner is not part of an article. As such is not intended for the reader or for the purpose of appeasing an individual biographical subject. Talk page banners are suppose to provide information for editors. In the case of a project banner, it's purpose is to provide information to project members about the importance, quality and development of an article. A well done banner will place an article properly on a quality scale for all editors and a priority/importance scale for project members. In fact, it will place the article in a category for project members according to these scales. It may also point to underdevelopment by noting photo, infobox, and/or map omissions. In addition, it may point to related projects or support groups that also have an editorial interest in the subject matter. A talk page banner is not really a tool for the regular editors of a page who may or may not be interested in many of the projects that attach a banner to a page. A talk page project banner is for guidance of project members. It is not really appropriate for non-members of a project to make decisions on what information a particular project should assemble for its own purposes in its attempt to improve the encyclopedia. [[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|cont]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]])</small> 14:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC) ::::I have no problem with your goals and objectives. I just question whether individuals whose sole connection to Chicago is that they attended a university in the city have enough of a nexus to justify inclusion within a Wikiproject, in the same way that a professional athlete who played in town or an art exhibit would, as provided in your priority grid. The fact that the word "Chicago" only appears in Corzine's article in the name of the school and the site of an early job, is simply insufficient to show the necessary connection. I'm sure that there are a few "select persons" who'll be interested in anyone whose stepped foot in a particular place, and that any person can be a role model. But I would rate the alumni categories as not showing much more of a connection than an imaginary <nowiki>[[Category:People who have changed planes at O'Hare International Airport]]. I have worked extensively on Wikiproject:New Jersey, and I would never think of listing all Rutgers University alumni as being connected to the project, nor those of the dozens of other colleges and universities in the state. The connection arising from college attendance in and of itself is simply insufficient to establish the necessary connection to this or any other WikiProject, other than a college-connected effort. Alansohn 16:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I work for the America's Most Wanted Safety Center, a new branch of America's Most Wanted getting away from the capturing of criminals, and branching out to all aspects of safety. I feel a link to our post about Jon Corzine's crash would be appropriate and mutually beneficial, particularly because it includes a filmed interview with him about the crash. The link is http://www.amw.com/safety/?p=61 please consider it. Jrosenfe 14:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I'd just like to point out that this article has very weak coverage of Corzine's job as CEO of Goldman Sachs. -- JHP 07:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Agreed - especially given his association with LTCM. Dan Rayn ( talk) 11:13, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Isn't he the *junior* senator?
I oppose the usage of "He also supports stronger federal gun control laws..." because the a person with the opposite POV would "support weaker federal gun control laws". Since the antinym of more restrictive is less restrictive, and both terms are fairly NPOV, I propose replacing stronger with more restrictive. -- Hcheney 23:31, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Restrictive has a negative connotation. I don't feel it's stricly NPOV. But I'd certainly be open to something other than stronger. It was the best wording I could come up with at the time. How about "Corzine supports tighter controls on guns"? -- Meelar 00:57, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
P.S. Let me add that it's good to see you back.
In the U.S., I think, gun ownership is viewed as a fundamental liberty--thus the "gun rights" movement. Child porn is not seen that way. I think Corzine's opponenets might use the "more restrictive" label. If you're not happy with "tighter", though, by all means, change it up. Yours, Meelar 22:41, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
This change is controversial and has been reverted a number of times previously. Please don't simply continue to revert this, and exclude the article from future runs. Christopher Parham (talk) 23:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
(reset margins)I've moved this discussion here, since it's specific to this article.
I see a couple solutions to this issue and would like feedback from the editors of this article as to what would be the best one to implement.
I've watchlisted this page and am interested in the thoughts of editors of this article. -- SatyrTN ( talk | contribs) 14:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
This article got me interested in joining the wiki community, I think there's a lot that can be added to this page, and glad there's so many people that are interested...i'm a former nyc resident that now has roots in new jersey. -- NYcThUgg 02:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I would like to point out that James McGreevy did not resign because of corruption ( as it is here stated) but , as it is already known, because he had an affair with a male employee who tried to blackmail him. Governor McGreevy felt resignation was the right decision to take before it all went public. —Preceding
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I was upset to see that the section i started on controversy for the good govenor of new jersey was deleted. The information i posted was hopefully a beginning to some of the more controversial business dealings that he is specfically involved. My information was well cited and confirmed by the govenor. Does anyone have a problem with me reposting some truth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYcThUgg ( talk • contribs) 12:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
In amny places this page reads as though it had been edited by the campaign publicist of an election opponent. Mrs Tilton ( talk) 12:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you identify some of those passages? Indicate what it is that concerns you? Perhaps suggest ways to improve them? Thefactis ( talk) 11:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Absent any concurring opinion, or even a hint about what the neutrality issue in this article might be, I believe it is time to remove the banner. Anyone who disagrees need only explain why. Thefactis ( talk) 23:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
This article is horribly written. Most of the information appears to be heavily biased against the governor and seems to be an attack piece with little neutral discussion of the governor's tenure. For instance, one section claims the governor chaned his opinion on govt employees contributing to their healthcare to satisfy his ex girlfriend, when in fact the state now requires employees to contribute 1.5% of their pay. Many more examples exist. The chronology of the article is terrible. This article needs a complete overhaul to remove bias and errors. Mkarchnj Mkarchnj ( talk) 21:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree, this article is HEAVILY biased against the governor, the Katz section alone is a big bias (look how much space it is given, and it is written very biased.) The state has an election coming up, and the neutrality of this article is important. I'm gonna try and go in and clean it up in the next few days. It needs a lot of work. It's fine to include issues and problems, but this thing is written way to biased. Bluedemocrat ( talk) 22:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
While the article may have historically been biased I do feel a larger portion should be dedicated to MF Global. Outside of New Jersey it is MF Global which will largely define his legacy good or bad. As such 3 short paragraphs with little information in comparison to list of his accomplishments is hardly appropriate. KSchmitt ( talk) 22:14, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I'll be doing the GA review for this article. Here are some suggestions for improvement:
The article will be on hold for a week for improvements. Nikki 311 23:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Someone slapped a {{ npov-section}} tag on a section and never came here to explain why. I am going to remove it. If you want to replace it give me an argument.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 05:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I've added a NPOV Section to the Entry into Politics section. You can see that I've made one change to make it less biased but I don't feel like rewriting it now. If you question whether it's actually NPOV or not, read the section. Although I generally have a leftward bias, I have no love for my governor and consider the section as written to be pretty biased. Huckfinne ( talk) 17:18, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I have a problem with this sentence. It's not factually inaccurate, but it does create the impression that he got out of state residents to vote for him in the election (a felony).
I propose the following sentence, "Corzine bussed in residents of Philadelphia homeless shelters and halfway houses to work on turnout efforts."
Makes the situation a bit clearer. If anyone thinks I'm overreacting please let me know.
The rest of the article has a slight anti-Corzine hue, but I don't care enough about the man to do anything more than this.
59.38.32.9 ( talk) 05:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC) I've made this change. If anyone has an issue, go read the USNWR article. Huckfinne ( talk) 17:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Someone put it back, removed it again. If people are going to keep insisting on putting this into the article, at least use an actual news source, and not a biased opinion article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tauraunt ( talk • contribs) 15:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Is the fact that Jon Corzine ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (Governor of New Jersey) has participated in several meetings of the Bilderberg Group significant enough for inclusion in his biographical page and for him to be added to category:Bilderberg Attendees? — Teahot ( talk) 10:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
As Corzine attended the Bilderberg Group meetings in 1995-1997, 1999, 2003 and 2004, I added this article to the Category:Bilderberg Attendees. The facts are well sourced and not in dispute but my edit was promptly deleted on the basis that his participation in the Bilderberg Group was not mentioned in the main body of the article and that attending these influential and private meetings was not significant enough to warrant categorization diff. I suggest that the fact he has attended these controversial and undocumented meetings should be added to the main article and the category added back as a general fact of public interest unless there is a clear consensus not to do so.
An example supporting source is: The New American, June 28, 2004, "Bilderbergers celebrate half a century of intrigue, secrecy", Vol. 20, No. 13, ISSN 0885-6540, quote:"Attendees from the U.S. this year reportedly included: Senators Jon Corzine (D-N.J.) and John Edwards (D-N.C.); Melinda Gates, wife of Microsoft founder Bill Gates; Donald Graham, chairman and CEO of the Washington Post Company; Richard N. Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations; Timothy Geithner, president of the Federal ReserveBank of New York; Douglas Feith, U.S. Undersecretary of Defense; Walter Isaacson, president and CEO of the Aspen Institute; Jessica T. Mathews, president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; Indra K. Nooyi, president and CEO of Pepsico; Peter Weinberg, CEO of Goldman Sachs International; and James Wolfensohn, president of the World Bank." — Teahot ( talk) 22:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
This page needs to be updated to include Corzine's successor Chris Christie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_New_Jersey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scelba ( talk • contribs) 04:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
It's too irrelevant and (tabloid) sensational to have sentences about Corzine's motorcade speed when he left the hospital after recovering from his motorcade accident. The speed of his vehicle before the accident is germane to the section, but the speed of his vehicle at any other time isn't. Are we to have bits on how fast he was going to dinner last night? If someone wants to start an article titled, "Jon Corzine motorcade speeds," then place this info there. But it shouldn't be here. The only purpose of those statements is to hammer home a point. And Wikipedia isn't a place to prove a point. I'll wait till the end of the day before deleting. ask123 ( talk) 14:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I propose creating a separate public opinion section. I think it would better serve the purposes of providing a summary of public opinion on the Corzine administration. I am aware that there is currently public opinion information included in the "Governor" section, but it would be easily integrated in to the new section. Additionally, I propose adding a graph that would visually depict Gov. Corzine's approval and disapproval ratings. Mkrayton ( talk) 20:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes he is categorized as ceo and chairman of goldman saks, but he was also the ceo and chairman of MF Global so this is not redundant? http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Jon_Corzine&action=historysubmit&diff=459069902&oldid=459059664 Ottawahitech ( talk) 01:15, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Now that MF Global has gone bust, should he be referred to as 'disgraced' CEO? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.89.208.39 ( talk) 08:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
How could Corzine's poll numbers have been low immediately after taken office because of a government shutdown that did not take place until late 2006, when they were negotiating the 2007 budget??? "After taking office in January 2006, Corzine's approval numbers were very low. Many polls seemed to indicate that much of this negative polling was a result of the 2006 New Jersey State Government shutdown. An April 26, 2006, polls from Quinnipiac University Polling Institute showed Corzine at a 15% approval with a 72% disapproval." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.52.36 ( talk) 19:25, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Can somebody please update the JC Flowers section? The article states that Corzine became a partner in JC Flowers in 2010, but isn't that very old information? I thought they had a falling out over the MF Global debacle. Can someone please update the situation/relationship between Corzine and Flowers? Thanks in advance.Cite error: There are <ref>
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please update —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.182.1.4 ( talk) 13:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm not from New Jersey, but I believe that Corzine remains Governor until the Governor-Elect (the wikipedia page on Chris Christie lists him as Governor-Eelect) is sworn in as Governor. -- 203.58.0.142 ( talk) 23:45, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm changing it, he definitely will remain Governor until January 19th. -- Wikiperson0202 ( talk) 23:49, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
We've got a potential edit war about how to refelct his status as Governor elect in the info box and succession box. We're having a similar problem with Tim Kaine. Can we discuss here and reach consensus rather than changing back and forth? TMS63112 21:11, 9 November 2005 (UTC) (forgot to sign)
Someone keeps adding, in the section of Marriage and Divorce, a statement that Jon Corzine "got Carla Katz pregnant than forced her to have an abortion." This is, of course, a variant on a vicious, unproven rumor launched against Senator Corzine. If you have proof about this, show it. Since you don't, stop adding it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattweng ( talk • contribs) 04:01, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Donald DiFrancesco and Richard Codey are now officially titled Governor, rather than Acting Governor. [1] — chair lunch dinner™ ( talk)
I moved the paragraph around a bit [2] moving the cut to the Governor's School of New Jersey to the end of the paragraph and removing "one of his most controversial cuts..." that came before it. The reason is because I think most New Jersey residents would agree that his most "controversial" part of his budget has been to raise the sales tax and with regards to cuts there are several cuts to unique programs which have been considered "controversial" and I do not see what is different about this program.-- Jersey Devil 10:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
The breaks are major and pose more risk of death than for hip replaecment where people his age sometimes die. That's the reason Codey asked for prayers. While doctors publicly say they expect him to recover, they also stress how difficult and long it would be. They are downplaying the risk of death in the ensuing surgeries. Please have a doctor or med student with expertise give a cite or referenced idea as to how serious the injuries reported typically are. Thanks. Chivista 20:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Do we need that? I'm wary of PoV blogSPAM showing up here, especially with the recent budget buissiness... 68.39.174.238 01:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Isn't he a Methodist? Also, what template can we use to reflect his Senate service as well? Biruitorul 02:27, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
“Actually,” Corzine said to him finally, with a slightly awkward smile, “I’m a Methodist.” " from here: http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/politics/12194/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.5.79.18 ( talk) 23:45, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I am deleting my own entry since I am slighty deranged adult whose behavior would fit nicely in a second grade class. Besides, doesn't "I'm a loser" have a nice ring to it ?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.197.130.151 ( talk • contribs) 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC).
NBC has just reported his leg was broken and it was a hit-and-run. I'm searching for links now. 71.175.17.80 23:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
MSNBC is reporting that Don Imus is at the Governor's mansion for a meeting with the Rugters University girls. Interesting this happens tonight. Wonder if that can be entered into the article somehow.
ChaseS08 23:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
The Car accident is listed twice in the article, with the second mentioning containing more depth. Someone should clean this up (I would if I had the time).
Tvh2k 14:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Assassination Attempt? Come now, I guess whoever wrote that never tried driving on the NJ turnpike. -cplradar still having log in problems.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, NOT a newspaper. While it's appropriate to include recent and current events in it when applicable, I think that the section on the accident is inappropriately large and contains features that are really not appropriate for an encyclopedia article. I am going to scale it back a little by deleting some material, please feel free to scale it back more. Personally, I think that it would not benefit the article most to delete almost all the material and wait for events to unfold. Details like the particular hospital, doctors name, etc. I think are going way too far. Cazort 16:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
It was reported that he would pay his own medical bills rather than bill taxpayers.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cantonrep.com:8881/printable.php?ID=351027</ref></nowiki<p> I would like to add the above sentence, but the only reference I can find is to a page that I could not accesss this morning. I am a brand-newbie, so can someone tell me if I copied the reference format correctly? Also, can anyone else access the page? I am a New Jersey resident, and I remember this, and have mentioned it to others, but need a documentable reference. Thanks [[User:Sallijane|Sallijane]] ([[User talk:Sallijane|talk]]) 13:21, 24 January 2009 (UTC) : I found a stable link from the Star-Ledger website and added the sentence to the page. For news reports, you can use [[Template:Cite news]], e.g.: :{{cite news |title=Corzine will pay all medical bills, aide says |work=[[The Star-Ledger]] |date=2007-04-27 |accessdate=2009-01-24 |url=http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates/2007/04/corzine_will_pay_all_medical_b.html}} :[[User:Offenbach|Offenbach]] ([[User talk:Offenbach|talk]]) 17:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC) ==News paper reports that driver was getting email while driving== The stories say that the trooper was involved in a sexual affair with the wife of the emailer. [[User:Chivista|Chivista]] 01:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC) :I can't possibly believe that ''both'' of the vehicle's front seat occupants had major lapses of reason when prioritizing their respective activities! But then again, what an inspring a story this may yet turn out to be! Just picture it... :::''The '''state trooper''' was busy dealing with '''pictures on his cell phone''' sent by the husband of the woman with whom he was '''having an affair''' while '''driving 90+ MPH on the interstate''' at the probable behest of the '''Governor''', who, although '''not wearing a seatbelt''', was in an incredible hurry to get to an '''important political summit''' where he was to host a dispute between a '''talkshow host''' and a '''basketball team'''.'' :I'm glad both our elected officials '''and''' our public safety personnel take their positions so seriously and exercise such demonstrably sound judgment, even when it comes down to the little things like prioritizing the activities of the state's highest officeholder or protecting the safety of families with children who are traveling on the state's roadways. I sleep well at night knowing there are people of such caliber within our government who truly have the best interests of the public in their hearts! But I digress... :Information about the driver's alleged use of (and alleged reason for the use of) a mobile phone immediately prior to the crash probably ought to be added to the article (at least eventually, if not right now). Incidentally, is it illegal in New Jersey to use a "non-hands-free" mobile phone while driving? -[[User:Grammaticus Repairo|Grammaticus Repairo]] 05:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC) -So let me get this straight. The speed limit is 65, and even considering that in reality the flow of traffic would have been around 75, what in gods name was the trooper doing going even 15 over that WITH emergency flashing lights on?? It all just dosent make sense to me, and sounds like we are really missing bits and pieces of information. If traffic is moving at ~75 and he was cutting these cars off at ~90 with emergency lights on, (in a 2 lane section of the parkway as well) how could the trooper not be entirely at fault here?.. Any word on him even getting ticketed?? <p>Corzine and staff requested that Corzine be ticketed for not wearing belt, and he was. If you want, I'll find the reference.[[User:Sallijane|Sallijane]] ([[User talk:Sallijane|talk]]) 13:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC) ==Residence Hoboken== Thanks for the reference! [[User:Chivista|Chivista]] 18:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC) ==Wikiproject Chicago?== Why is this article a part of Wikiproject Chicago? Does the fact that he obtained a degree from the University of Chicago (and once worked in a Chicago bank) make him worthy of inclusion? This does not make sense to me... -[[User:Grammaticus Repairo|Grammaticus Repairo]] 20:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC) :This person is of extreme importance to select Chicagoans. More precisely, he is an extremely important member of the [[University of Chicago]] alumni network. Probably, most students in the [[University of Chicago Graduate School of Business|business school]], [[University of Chicago Law School|law school]] [[Harris School of Public Policy Studies|public policy school]] probably aspire to one of his current or past roles. [[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|cont]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]])</small> 15:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC) ::Special pleading. None of the actual phrasing below would include every successful UChicago alumnus, which would be required to include Corzine. Please remove this tag. [[User:Pmanderson|Septentrionalis]] <small>[[User talk:Pmanderson|PMAnderson]]</small> 00:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC) :::Having attended college in a city is not sufficient in and of itself to demonstrate a connection between th individual and that city. I was baffled when the WikiProject Chicago tag popped up here and I still see no reason that it should be retained. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] 01:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC) The arguments for including Jon Corzine in this project, as presented by [[Tony the Tiger]], are simply absurd: ::''"This person is of extreme importance to select Chicagoans."'' So are Socrates, Anna Nicole Smith, and Ernie the Keebler Elf. Given the population of the greater Chicago area, I'd imagine that damn near everyone with a wikipedia entry is "of extreme importance" to '''some''' "select Chicagoan". ::''"More precisely, he is an extremely important member of the University of Chicago alumni network."'' Says whom and using what criteria? Do you have a valid source for this claim? ::''"Probably, most students in the business school, law school public ''[, and/or]'' policy school probably aspire to one of his current or past roles."'' Aside from the sheer absurdity of this claim, the sentence contains the modifier "probably" (twice), essentially rendering everything within the phrase completely meaningless. And if there's a survey out there that substantiates this claim, I'd like to see it. Unless a '''valid''' reason is provided for keeping this page marked as within the scope of your wikiproject, I'm quite sure the tag will continue to be removed. Incidentally, I suspect the 'Priority Scale' chart displayed below is also likely to disappear. -[[User:Grammaticus Repairo|Grammaticus Repairo]] 01:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC) {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Priority Scale}} :::It seems that there is a very serious misunderstanding of what Talkpage project banners are for. A talk page banner is not part of an article. As such is not intended for the reader or for the purpose of appeasing an individual biographical subject. Talk page banners are suppose to provide information for editors. In the case of a project banner, it's purpose is to provide information to project members about the importance, quality and development of an article. A well done banner will place an article properly on a quality scale for all editors and a priority/importance scale for project members. In fact, it will place the article in a category for project members according to these scales. It may also point to underdevelopment by noting photo, infobox, and/or map omissions. In addition, it may point to related projects or support groups that also have an editorial interest in the subject matter. A talk page banner is not really a tool for the regular editors of a page who may or may not be interested in many of the projects that attach a banner to a page. A talk page project banner is for guidance of project members. It is not really appropriate for non-members of a project to make decisions on what information a particular project should assemble for its own purposes in its attempt to improve the encyclopedia. [[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|cont]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]])</small> 14:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC) ::::I have no problem with your goals and objectives. I just question whether individuals whose sole connection to Chicago is that they attended a university in the city have enough of a nexus to justify inclusion within a Wikiproject, in the same way that a professional athlete who played in town or an art exhibit would, as provided in your priority grid. The fact that the word "Chicago" only appears in Corzine's article in the name of the school and the site of an early job, is simply insufficient to show the necessary connection. I'm sure that there are a few "select persons" who'll be interested in anyone whose stepped foot in a particular place, and that any person can be a role model. But I would rate the alumni categories as not showing much more of a connection than an imaginary <nowiki>[[Category:People who have changed planes at O'Hare International Airport]]. I have worked extensively on Wikiproject:New Jersey, and I would never think of listing all Rutgers University alumni as being connected to the project, nor those of the dozens of other colleges and universities in the state. The connection arising from college attendance in and of itself is simply insufficient to establish the necessary connection to this or any other WikiProject, other than a college-connected effort. Alansohn 16:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I work for the America's Most Wanted Safety Center, a new branch of America's Most Wanted getting away from the capturing of criminals, and branching out to all aspects of safety. I feel a link to our post about Jon Corzine's crash would be appropriate and mutually beneficial, particularly because it includes a filmed interview with him about the crash. The link is http://www.amw.com/safety/?p=61 please consider it. Jrosenfe 14:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I'd just like to point out that this article has very weak coverage of Corzine's job as CEO of Goldman Sachs. -- JHP 07:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Agreed - especially given his association with LTCM. Dan Rayn ( talk) 11:13, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Isn't he the *junior* senator?
I oppose the usage of "He also supports stronger federal gun control laws..." because the a person with the opposite POV would "support weaker federal gun control laws". Since the antinym of more restrictive is less restrictive, and both terms are fairly NPOV, I propose replacing stronger with more restrictive. -- Hcheney 23:31, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Restrictive has a negative connotation. I don't feel it's stricly NPOV. But I'd certainly be open to something other than stronger. It was the best wording I could come up with at the time. How about "Corzine supports tighter controls on guns"? -- Meelar 00:57, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
P.S. Let me add that it's good to see you back.
In the U.S., I think, gun ownership is viewed as a fundamental liberty--thus the "gun rights" movement. Child porn is not seen that way. I think Corzine's opponenets might use the "more restrictive" label. If you're not happy with "tighter", though, by all means, change it up. Yours, Meelar 22:41, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
This change is controversial and has been reverted a number of times previously. Please don't simply continue to revert this, and exclude the article from future runs. Christopher Parham (talk) 23:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
(reset margins)I've moved this discussion here, since it's specific to this article.
I see a couple solutions to this issue and would like feedback from the editors of this article as to what would be the best one to implement.
I've watchlisted this page and am interested in the thoughts of editors of this article. -- SatyrTN ( talk | contribs) 14:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
This article got me interested in joining the wiki community, I think there's a lot that can be added to this page, and glad there's so many people that are interested...i'm a former nyc resident that now has roots in new jersey. -- NYcThUgg 02:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I would like to point out that James McGreevy did not resign because of corruption ( as it is here stated) but , as it is already known, because he had an affair with a male employee who tried to blackmail him. Governor McGreevy felt resignation was the right decision to take before it all went public. —Preceding
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I was upset to see that the section i started on controversy for the good govenor of new jersey was deleted. The information i posted was hopefully a beginning to some of the more controversial business dealings that he is specfically involved. My information was well cited and confirmed by the govenor. Does anyone have a problem with me reposting some truth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYcThUgg ( talk • contribs) 12:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
In amny places this page reads as though it had been edited by the campaign publicist of an election opponent. Mrs Tilton ( talk) 12:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you identify some of those passages? Indicate what it is that concerns you? Perhaps suggest ways to improve them? Thefactis ( talk) 11:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Absent any concurring opinion, or even a hint about what the neutrality issue in this article might be, I believe it is time to remove the banner. Anyone who disagrees need only explain why. Thefactis ( talk) 23:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
This article is horribly written. Most of the information appears to be heavily biased against the governor and seems to be an attack piece with little neutral discussion of the governor's tenure. For instance, one section claims the governor chaned his opinion on govt employees contributing to their healthcare to satisfy his ex girlfriend, when in fact the state now requires employees to contribute 1.5% of their pay. Many more examples exist. The chronology of the article is terrible. This article needs a complete overhaul to remove bias and errors. Mkarchnj Mkarchnj ( talk) 21:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree, this article is HEAVILY biased against the governor, the Katz section alone is a big bias (look how much space it is given, and it is written very biased.) The state has an election coming up, and the neutrality of this article is important. I'm gonna try and go in and clean it up in the next few days. It needs a lot of work. It's fine to include issues and problems, but this thing is written way to biased. Bluedemocrat ( talk) 22:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
While the article may have historically been biased I do feel a larger portion should be dedicated to MF Global. Outside of New Jersey it is MF Global which will largely define his legacy good or bad. As such 3 short paragraphs with little information in comparison to list of his accomplishments is hardly appropriate. KSchmitt ( talk) 22:14, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I'll be doing the GA review for this article. Here are some suggestions for improvement:
The article will be on hold for a week for improvements. Nikki 311 23:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Someone slapped a {{ npov-section}} tag on a section and never came here to explain why. I am going to remove it. If you want to replace it give me an argument.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 05:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I've added a NPOV Section to the Entry into Politics section. You can see that I've made one change to make it less biased but I don't feel like rewriting it now. If you question whether it's actually NPOV or not, read the section. Although I generally have a leftward bias, I have no love for my governor and consider the section as written to be pretty biased. Huckfinne ( talk) 17:18, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I have a problem with this sentence. It's not factually inaccurate, but it does create the impression that he got out of state residents to vote for him in the election (a felony).
I propose the following sentence, "Corzine bussed in residents of Philadelphia homeless shelters and halfway houses to work on turnout efforts."
Makes the situation a bit clearer. If anyone thinks I'm overreacting please let me know.
The rest of the article has a slight anti-Corzine hue, but I don't care enough about the man to do anything more than this.
59.38.32.9 ( talk) 05:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC) I've made this change. If anyone has an issue, go read the USNWR article. Huckfinne ( talk) 17:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Someone put it back, removed it again. If people are going to keep insisting on putting this into the article, at least use an actual news source, and not a biased opinion article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tauraunt ( talk • contribs) 15:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Is the fact that Jon Corzine ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (Governor of New Jersey) has participated in several meetings of the Bilderberg Group significant enough for inclusion in his biographical page and for him to be added to category:Bilderberg Attendees? — Teahot ( talk) 10:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
As Corzine attended the Bilderberg Group meetings in 1995-1997, 1999, 2003 and 2004, I added this article to the Category:Bilderberg Attendees. The facts are well sourced and not in dispute but my edit was promptly deleted on the basis that his participation in the Bilderberg Group was not mentioned in the main body of the article and that attending these influential and private meetings was not significant enough to warrant categorization diff. I suggest that the fact he has attended these controversial and undocumented meetings should be added to the main article and the category added back as a general fact of public interest unless there is a clear consensus not to do so.
An example supporting source is: The New American, June 28, 2004, "Bilderbergers celebrate half a century of intrigue, secrecy", Vol. 20, No. 13, ISSN 0885-6540, quote:"Attendees from the U.S. this year reportedly included: Senators Jon Corzine (D-N.J.) and John Edwards (D-N.C.); Melinda Gates, wife of Microsoft founder Bill Gates; Donald Graham, chairman and CEO of the Washington Post Company; Richard N. Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations; Timothy Geithner, president of the Federal ReserveBank of New York; Douglas Feith, U.S. Undersecretary of Defense; Walter Isaacson, president and CEO of the Aspen Institute; Jessica T. Mathews, president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; Indra K. Nooyi, president and CEO of Pepsico; Peter Weinberg, CEO of Goldman Sachs International; and James Wolfensohn, president of the World Bank." — Teahot ( talk) 22:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
This page needs to be updated to include Corzine's successor Chris Christie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_New_Jersey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scelba ( talk • contribs) 04:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
It's too irrelevant and (tabloid) sensational to have sentences about Corzine's motorcade speed when he left the hospital after recovering from his motorcade accident. The speed of his vehicle before the accident is germane to the section, but the speed of his vehicle at any other time isn't. Are we to have bits on how fast he was going to dinner last night? If someone wants to start an article titled, "Jon Corzine motorcade speeds," then place this info there. But it shouldn't be here. The only purpose of those statements is to hammer home a point. And Wikipedia isn't a place to prove a point. I'll wait till the end of the day before deleting. ask123 ( talk) 14:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I propose creating a separate public opinion section. I think it would better serve the purposes of providing a summary of public opinion on the Corzine administration. I am aware that there is currently public opinion information included in the "Governor" section, but it would be easily integrated in to the new section. Additionally, I propose adding a graph that would visually depict Gov. Corzine's approval and disapproval ratings. Mkrayton ( talk) 20:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes he is categorized as ceo and chairman of goldman saks, but he was also the ceo and chairman of MF Global so this is not redundant? http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Jon_Corzine&action=historysubmit&diff=459069902&oldid=459059664 Ottawahitech ( talk) 01:15, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Now that MF Global has gone bust, should he be referred to as 'disgraced' CEO? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.89.208.39 ( talk) 08:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
How could Corzine's poll numbers have been low immediately after taken office because of a government shutdown that did not take place until late 2006, when they were negotiating the 2007 budget??? "After taking office in January 2006, Corzine's approval numbers were very low. Many polls seemed to indicate that much of this negative polling was a result of the 2006 New Jersey State Government shutdown. An April 26, 2006, polls from Quinnipiac University Polling Institute showed Corzine at a 15% approval with a 72% disapproval." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.52.36 ( talk) 19:25, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Can somebody please update the JC Flowers section? The article states that Corzine became a partner in JC Flowers in 2010, but isn't that very old information? I thought they had a falling out over the MF Global debacle. Can someone please update the situation/relationship between Corzine and Flowers? Thanks in advance.Cite error: There are <ref>
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Should File:SenatorJonCorzine (cropped).jpg be used in the infobox instead of the current image, File:Governor portrait hr.jpg? The current image doesn't have clear source information. Wikiacc ( ¶) 15:05, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Result: Delisted. Legitimate concerns, no opposition or improvements made; Matters raised in the reassessment were not addressed. These matters will remain valid until the next GA Review, whereupon they must be addressed first. -- Whiteguru ( talk) 20:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Starts GA Reassessment. The reassessment will follow the same sections of the Article. Thank you --
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Instructions: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment
HTML document size: 393 kB Prose size (including all HTML code): 70 kB References (including all HTML code): 199 kB Wiki text: 110 kB Prose size (text only): 39 kB (6444 words) "readable prose size" References (text only): 30 kB
On hold for one week. --
Whiteguru (
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Result: Delisted. Legitimate concerns, no opposition or improvements made; Matters raised in the reassessment were not addressed. These matters will remain valid until the next GA Review, whereupon they must be addressed first. --
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