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This page had been deleted in July 2014.[1] I have restored it and added some additional citations. According to WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, "Schools are frequently nominated for deletion". However, as there are citations within the article regarding notability, please leave comments here for discussion. HedgeHogPower (talk) 23:07, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Johnnie_L._Cochran_Jr._Middle_School&diff=next&oldid=598504533
Okay, I hopefully got the name right, as I do think the school is notable. However, I will do more research and add to the piece. Right now I am looking at John Burroughs Middle School and Le Conte Middle School for guidance. HedgeHogPower ( talk) 20:08, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
I disagree with the deletion of this section. I questioned the deletion at the Teahouse and got a responses that indicated this should be included. ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#A_section_of_my_article_was_removed). HedgeHogPower ( talk) 00:03, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
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Continuing on with comments in the above section about the Murder of Marion Parker, Is there even enough to justify an indepndent article about this school. I don't see it. The lead is very basic info, where it is, what school district, nothing remarkable.
The history section explains how it got its original name and a reason why the name was changed. Next is the section on Marion Parker and I already explained above why I do not see how that even belongs here.
The next section is titled Controversy but doesn't even say there was a controversy. It discusses a local 17 minute documentary that is about the problems at the school. When I look at the sources, neither one is helpful. The KCET source just goes to a search page and there is nothing on the page about the documentary, but if there is something found on the wbsite, it is most likely a primary source. The other source goes to page on marleyklaus.com (for me this comes back and says that it took to long to respond). Searching for Marley Klaus, I do find who this probably is. There is a Marley Klaus who is a former producer of 60 minutes and former executive producer of California Connected. Based on this info, the second source is also probably a primary source.
The next two sections are all about proposed name changes from Mount Vernon Middle School. The first a failed proposal to name the school after Wyatt Earp and the second successful one to name it, Johnnie L. Cochran Jr. Middle School. None of the sources are hepful to establish notability of the school. One is a public record and not even about the school but about a road near the school. The other two are local coverage. One is about Wyatt Earp and the connection to the school is put up fromt for the local tie in, but there isn't any real coverage about the school. The other one is routine coverage that any school would get in a local paper when the name is changed. The last section just reiterates the fact that Johnnie Cochran went to the school.
I do not see anything significant about the school much less notable. Bearing the name of a notable residence or person does not make the school notable. How it came to have those names is not notable. Being the location of a home of a notable person is not notable. Being the location where a crime started is not notable. There just isn't anything notable about this school and it should redirect to the school district page. -- GB fan 11:33, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
John from Idegon suggested turning this to Afd. I agreed. Please open this open to a larger discussion.
![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on 15 November 2016. The result of the discussion was redirect to List of Los Angeles Unified School District schools#Zoned middle schools. |
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This page had been deleted in July 2014.[1] I have restored it and added some additional citations. According to WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, "Schools are frequently nominated for deletion". However, as there are citations within the article regarding notability, please leave comments here for discussion. HedgeHogPower (talk) 23:07, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Johnnie_L._Cochran_Jr._Middle_School&diff=next&oldid=598504533
Okay, I hopefully got the name right, as I do think the school is notable. However, I will do more research and add to the piece. Right now I am looking at John Burroughs Middle School and Le Conte Middle School for guidance. HedgeHogPower ( talk) 20:08, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
I disagree with the deletion of this section. I questioned the deletion at the Teahouse and got a responses that indicated this should be included. ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#A_section_of_my_article_was_removed). HedgeHogPower ( talk) 00:03, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
References
Continuing on with comments in the above section about the Murder of Marion Parker, Is there even enough to justify an indepndent article about this school. I don't see it. The lead is very basic info, where it is, what school district, nothing remarkable.
The history section explains how it got its original name and a reason why the name was changed. Next is the section on Marion Parker and I already explained above why I do not see how that even belongs here.
The next section is titled Controversy but doesn't even say there was a controversy. It discusses a local 17 minute documentary that is about the problems at the school. When I look at the sources, neither one is helpful. The KCET source just goes to a search page and there is nothing on the page about the documentary, but if there is something found on the wbsite, it is most likely a primary source. The other source goes to page on marleyklaus.com (for me this comes back and says that it took to long to respond). Searching for Marley Klaus, I do find who this probably is. There is a Marley Klaus who is a former producer of 60 minutes and former executive producer of California Connected. Based on this info, the second source is also probably a primary source.
The next two sections are all about proposed name changes from Mount Vernon Middle School. The first a failed proposal to name the school after Wyatt Earp and the second successful one to name it, Johnnie L. Cochran Jr. Middle School. None of the sources are hepful to establish notability of the school. One is a public record and not even about the school but about a road near the school. The other two are local coverage. One is about Wyatt Earp and the connection to the school is put up fromt for the local tie in, but there isn't any real coverage about the school. The other one is routine coverage that any school would get in a local paper when the name is changed. The last section just reiterates the fact that Johnnie Cochran went to the school.
I do not see anything significant about the school much less notable. Bearing the name of a notable residence or person does not make the school notable. How it came to have those names is not notable. Being the location of a home of a notable person is not notable. Being the location where a crime started is not notable. There just isn't anything notable about this school and it should redirect to the school district page. -- GB fan 11:33, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
John from Idegon suggested turning this to Afd. I agreed. Please open this open to a larger discussion.